2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

phincsfan · Post #1601 » by **phincsfan** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:27 pm

165bows wrote:Atlanta could offer Okongwu and Niang for KP.

Toronto is a weird mention in that they really can’t construct a decent offer.

They've shown they were willing to move Quickley for KD.

Memokerobi · Post #1602 » by **Memokerobi** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:29 pm

I think there is a good chance this turns into a 3+ team trade by July 6th and Simons never officially becomes a Celtic

FlatearthZorro · Post #1603 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:30 pm

The Corey's wrote:As long as it doesn't take a first round pick to unload KP then I don't care what happens there.

Use some of these useless second round picks that are piling up.

The idea is to shave at least a few mils, otherwise trading him is meaningless.

greenbeans · Post #1604 » by **greenbeans** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:31 pm

The Corey's wrote:Sure. Let's ramp him from 0 to 100 for a useless playoff run.

Everything in life itself is useless if we want to get to the heart of it, so, sure, let's.

playa-hater · Post #1605 » by **playa-hater** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:31 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
The Corey's wrote:As long as it doesn't take a first round pick to unload KP then I don't care what happens there.

Use some of these useless second round picks that are piling up.

The idea is to shave at least a few mils, otherwise trading him is meaningless.

If so many teams on interested is true, then no way. Should boston have to use an acid to get rid of him. I am fully expecting a draft pick in return with whatever junk player is thrown in.

The Corey's · Post #1606 » by **The Corey's** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:32 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
The Corey's wrote:As long as it doesn't take a first round pick to unload KP then I don't care what happens there.

Use some of these useless second round picks that are piling up.

The idea is to shave at least a few mils, otherwise trading him is meaningless.

I meant I don't care how they trade him into cap space as long as we don't give up any first to do it.

Id say we wouldn't have to but on the flip side, when Washington was unloading him in the same situation 2 years ago, Memphis had to give up 2 first rounders.

Different scenarios I know but something to keep in mind.

Post #1607 » by **165bows** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:35 pm

phincsfan wrote:
165bows wrote:Atlanta could offer Okongwu and Niang for KP.

Toronto is a weird mention in that they really can’t construct a decent offer.

They've shown they were willing to move Quickley for KD.

Prob what got PHX to accept the Green deal

The Corey's · Post #1608 » by **The Corey's** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:38 pm

One thing I like a lot about Stevens vs Ainge is how quick and methodical Stevens moves.

Ainge would let **** stew for weeks, if not months before he made a decisive move.

Steven's doesn't give a ****.

Hal14 · Post #1609 » by **Hal14** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:38 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:
The Corey's wrote:As long as it doesn't take a first round pick to unload KP then I don't care what happens there.

Use some of these useless second round picks that are piling up.

I like second round picks
Jalen Brunson was a 2nd round pick.
Derrick White was pick #29

Jokic, Draymond Green and Isaiah Thomas were 2nd round picks too.

SparringPartner · Post #1610 » by **SparringPartner** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:43 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:You expect advancements to stay the same as 6 years ago? KD was 30, JT turned 27, 4 months ago, had the surgery 2 months ago so he was practically 26.

I don’t expect anything, In just not ready for son and gloom well before we know anything!

It makes zero sense for a dude coming off a major injury to ramp up for the playoffs where he got his injury in the first place.

Tatum will be back by next playoffs I'm sure. He will be coming off the bench and minute restricted.

Why put him and his Achilles under the pressures that you're talking about? For what purpose? They're not a championship roster right now.

I don’t know much, but I do know, that if Tatum gets cleared anywhere near the start of the playoffs, he’s going to play. I don’t know the future, I know that Tatum if anyone, is going to fight to be out there any chance he can. Once the doctors say go, there is no holding back.

So, going by what you say, you’re counting on the doctors saying he won’t play. Except his own surgeon isn’t even as pessimistic as you.

Suppose he's ready in March, maybe. Anything later than that is irresponsible, imo.

Curmudgeon · Post #1611 » by **Curmudgeon** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:43 pm

Maybe Stevens sees something in Simons that I don't, or maybe there is some third team that wants him. But I find it hard to believe that a contending team wasn't willing to give a better return for Jrue.

The Corey's · Post #1612 » by **The Corey's** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:45 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:Maybe Stevens sees something in Simons that I don't, or maybe there is some third team that wants him. But I find it hard to believe that a contending team wasn't willing to give a better return for Jrue.

What could a contending team part with that keeps them competitive and satisfies the Celtics wants too?

It doesn't make sense to say that Stevens didn't get the best deal possible. Clearly this is the deal he finds the most valuable.

Simon is on the move anyway.

WeLikeOurGuys · Post #1613 » by **WeLikeOurGuys** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:46 pm

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SparringPartner · Post #1614 » by **SparringPartner** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:47 pm

Remember the apron tax when you are suggesting trades for KP and Hauser. They have to shed $18M+ (net)

gammajamma · Post #1615 » by **gammajamma** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:50 pm

would Nets give up 19 for Hauser? Nets would still have 8,26,27 after trade

SparringPartner · Post #1616 » by **SparringPartner** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:51 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Maybe Stevens sees something in Simons that I don't, or maybe there is some third team that wants him. But I find it hard to believe that a contending team wasn't willing to give a better return for Jrue.

What could a contending team part with that keeps them competitive and satisfies the Celtics wants too?

It doesn't make sense to say that Stevens didn't get the best deal possible. Clearly this is the deal he finds the most valuable.

Simon is on the move anyway.

I will continue to say, even as great as the Jrue trade was, it's not a win-now move. We are not contending next year. Reset this thing by moving, at least, JB. I'd move White as well. HOU still has young players and future picks. I'd look out for them to ask about White.

fallguy · Post #1617 » by **fallguy** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:52 pm

The Corey's wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Maybe Stevens sees something in Simons that I don't, or maybe there is some third team that wants him. But I find it hard to believe that a contending team wasn't willing to give a better return for Jrue.

What could a contending team part with that keeps them competitive and satisfies the Celtics wants too?

It doesn't make sense to say that Stevens didn't get the best deal possible. Clearly this is the deal he finds the most valuable.

Simon is on the move anyway.

Very few teams have a need for Jrue and can absorb his salary.

WeLikeOurGuys · Post #1618 » by **WeLikeOurGuys** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:54 pm

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SparringPartner · Post #1619 » by **SparringPartner** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:56 pm

gammajamma wrote:would Nets give up 19 for Hauser? Nets would still have 8,26,27 after trade

Hauser is a fantastic addition to a team that's contending (in their minds). I'm not sure why BRK would want him unless the Celtics pay them off. Receiving a pick from BRK is unrealistic to me.

SAS, HOU, LAL, DAL, and so forth.

That being said, POR gave us a youngish player and picks for Jrue, so who the **** knows.

The Corey's · Post #1620 » by **The Corey's** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 5:56 pm

SparringPartner wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:Maybe Stevens sees something in Simons that I don't, or maybe there is some third team that wants him. But I find it hard to believe that a contending team wasn't willing to give a better return for Jrue.

What could a contending team part with that keeps them competitive and satisfies the Celtics wants too?

It doesn't make sense to say that Stevens didn't get the best deal possible. Clearly this is the deal he finds the most valuable.

Simon is on the move anyway.

I will continue to say, even as great as the Jrue trade was, it's not a win-now move. We are not contending next year. Reset this thing by moving, at least, JB. I'd move White as well. HOU still has young players and future picks. I'd look out for them to ask about White.

I'm not moving White for anything short of a haul. And only if they're commiting to the tank.