Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread

[Magic_Johnny12]

Question: so I think we all agree that we are looking at trades to complement the 2nd unit, next to AB(barring major trades). If that's the case Isaac is the odd man out, right? Because while Mo is out I don't want to deal with a Isaac/Goga combo anyway. And when he's back I rather have Mo/Goga than Isaac/Mo.

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I don’t know, maybe I’m the minority but give me a slim focused Isaac any day over Goga (and I’m a big Goga fan).

Regardless, one of WCJ or Goga are the odd man out imo. The latter is probably most likely.

[Knightro]

I would prefer to keep Isaac on the hopes he gives you his 23-24 production.

If he can't reproduce that, he will still be as tradable in December/January as he is now.

[outlawmarx]

Question: so I think we all agree that we are looking at trades to complement the 2nd unit, next to AB(barring major trades). If that's the case Isaac is the odd man out, right? Because while Mo is out I don't want to deal with a Isaac/Goga combo anyway. And when he's back I rather have Mo/Goga than Isaac/Mo.

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I don’t know, maybe I’m the minority but give me a slim focused Isaac any day over Goga (and I’m a big Goga fan).

Regardless, one of WCJ or Goga are the odd man out imo. The latter is probably most likely.

In terms of individual talents I agree, but looking back seems like Mo/Goga connected way better than Isaac/Mo. Perhaps because Goga needs to have fixed assignments(something he kinda complained about during last season).
Also, more options: MLE on a player to complement AB plus trading Isaac for another player and a pick would give us more chances of getting it right . Maybe even including Jett

[outlawmarx]

I would prefer to keep Isaac on the hopes he gives you his 23-24 production.

If he can't reproduce that, he will still be as tradable in December/January as he is now.

Fair point

[Knightro]

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Fascinating deal here.

[MagicTownBaller]

My thoughts are, even at 23-24 production, it's not enough for a team in the second apron to justify on a guy for $15M, it's just not. We need a full fledged scorer off the bench.

[basketballRob]

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Fascinating deal here.

We could use Mccollum and Olynyk if they get bought out.

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[basketballRob]

I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.

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[Knightro]

My thoughts are, even at 23-24 production, it's not enough for a team in the second apron to justify on a guy for $15M, it's just not. We need a full fledged scorer off the bench.

I very strongly disagree with this.

Isaac in 23-24 was worth way more than $15M dollars.

+11.6 Plus/Minus Per 100 On Court
+12.7 Plus/Minus Net
.610 TS%
No. 1 in the NBA by a very wide margin in Defensive EPM
No. 1 in the NBA by a very wide margin in Defensive Net Points

He was the most impactful defensive player in the league on a per minute basis and the Magic obliterated teams when he was on the court.

[outlawmarx]

I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.

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I think we were so used to only minor gambles we didn't even think so many 1st were in play

[Knightro]

I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.

You think?

[RichCollab]

I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.

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I’m fine with where we ended up.

[outlawmarx]

My thoughts are, even at 23-24 production, it's not enough for a team in the second apron to justify on a guy for $15M, it's just not. We need a full fledged scorer off the bench.

I very strongly disagree with this.

Isaac in 23-24 was worth way more than $15M dollars.

+11.6 Plus/Minus Per 100 On Court
+12.7 Plus/Minus Net
.610 TS%
No. 1 in the NBA by a very wide margin in Defensive EPM
No. 1 in the NBA by a very wide margin in Defensive Net Points

He was the most impactful defensive player in the league on a per minute basis and the Magic obliterated teams when he was on the court.

But we need offense, right? Like I said, better individual player, yes. But the fit with Mo or Goga doesn't work IMO

[eyriq]

Fans are really stretching to justify keeping Moritz while talking about moving JI or Goga, even though both had way more impact. The numbers on JI aren't even close, and Goga led the team in win shares. Moritz is solid, but acting like he's the one you absolutely have to keep just doesn’t add up

[outlawmarx]

Fans are really stretching to justify keeping Moritz while talking about moving JI or Goga, even though both had way more impact. The numbers on JI aren't even close, and Goga led the team in win shares. Moritz is solid, but acting like he's the one you absolutely have to keep just doesn’t add up

IMO is about fit and position. If you trade Goga who's backing up WCJ? Plus if we need offense and Mo is definitely better than both in that department. He's not irreplaceable, but we can't underestimate his value off the bench also

[basketballRob]

Fans are really stretching to justify keeping Moritz while talking about moving JI or Goga, even though both had way more impact. The numbers on JI aren't even close, and Goga led the team in win shares. Moritz is solid, but acting like he's the one you absolutely have to keep just doesn’t add up

Letting Moe go, drafting Raynaud, and having the full MLE is the best move, but they won't do it.

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[Knightro]

But we need offense, right? Like I said, better individual player, yes. But the fit with Mo or Goga doesn't work IMO

They just added a player who has averaged 20.2 PPG on a .597 TS% over the last four seasons to help address the offense.

And the Isaac/Moritz fit from 23-24 was actually about as good as it gets.

+11.5 NET rating for that pairing in 598 minutes together that season.

[jonbob17]

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Fascinating deal here.

I am not sure which side did worse.

[Knightro]

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Fascinating deal here.

I am not sure which side did worse.

New Orleans got younger and Id' say *slightly* better on the court for this upcoming season, but are they trying to compete this year? And was a cost of $40M on the 26-27 books worth the marginal on-court upgrade?

Washington cleared $40M off their books for 26-27, but what's actually the end goal there?

Free agency is mostly dead now anyway and are good veteran free agents going to willing go to play for a sub 20-win Wizards team that has 10 guys on rookie contracts next summer? I'm skeptical.

[MagicTownBaller]

My thoughts are, even at 23-24 production, it's not enough for a team in the second apron to justify on a guy for $15M, it's just not. We need a full fledged scorer off the bench.

I very strongly disagree with this.

Isaac in 23-24 was worth way more than $15M dollars.

+11.6 Plus/Minus Per 100 On Court
+12.7 Plus/Minus Net
.610 TS%
No. 1 in the NBA by a very wide margin in Defensive EPM
No. 1 in the NBA by a very wide margin in Defensive Net Points

He was the most impactful defensive player in the league on a per minute basis and the Magic obliterated teams when he was on the court.

Isaac in 23-24 could only manage 15 minutes per game, in 24-25 could only manage 15 minutes per game.

At $15M, he's not a guy you can keep for just 15 minutes anyway. If he had those stats while at least playing 25 minutes per game, I'd agree with ya, but at this point, his contract is a noose around Orlando's neck to rebuild our offense on the bench.