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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#1641 » by djFan71 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:58 pm

There's always the DET option. Stewart and Fontecchio for KP & Hauser.
Flip Fontecchio to a MLE / cap space team.

That gets us to $5.7M under the 2nd apron with 13 guys - counting JD, 28 & 32.
Enough to sign Luke alone to get to 14.
Or drop JD and you have $8M to split between Luke and Al.

Coming out with Simons and Stewart and a few 2nds isn't a bad outcome all told.
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Post#1642 » by Gant » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:58 pm

New Celtics-Spurs Trade Report Surfaces One Day Before NBA Draft

The Boston Celtics have made their first seismic change of the offseason, trading Jrue Holiday to the Portland Trail Blazers for Anfernee Simons. With Holiday now gone, next is Kristaps Porzingis. Jake Fischer reported some of the latest intel on Porzingis' trade market, including the San Antonio Spurs.

"Another team we've heard with a level of Porzingis interest: San Antonio," Fischer wrote. "The Spurs, sources say, have held some exploratory talks about trading for the 7-foot-2 center. That would certainly be a fascinating outcome for Porzingis if he were to land with the on-the-rise Spurs alongside the 7-foot-5 Victor Wembanyama.

"As Monday night dribbled into Tuesday morning, I was cautioned that San Antonio, in the end, should probably be classified as an unlikely destination for Porzingis."

Now, a new report has surfaced regarding this potential trade between San Antonio and Boston. News 4 San Antonio's Don Harris has confirmed the Spurs' interest in Porzingis. He also revealed where talks are at between the two sides and who he sees going back to Boston.

"Can confirm that Spurs have shown interest for Boston's Kristaps Porzingis with talks intensifying over the last 24 hours," Harris wrote. "Boston is purging salaries. No details on what the Spurs are offering. KP is on a 1 year $30 million expiring contract. I'm thinking Barnes would have to be in the deal."


https://athlonsports.com/nba/boston-celtics/new-celtics-spurs-trade-report-surfaces-one-day-before-nba-draft
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#1643 » by celtxman » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:02 pm

Gant wrote:Keith Smith:

...it's likely Boston and Portland hold this trade and execute it as part of the new league year, league sources told
@spotrac.com.

That makes sense as the base framework is in place, but there're opportunities to expand this deal, create TPEs, etc

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Bobby Marks stated on the the Off - C'season, that all of these trades (Bane) or anyone else are for the 2025-26 books.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!) 

Post#1644 » by tfribs45 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:03 pm

The Corey's wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
It makes zero sense for a dude coming off a major injury to ramp up for the playoffs where he got his injury in the first place.

Tatum will be back by next playoffs I'm sure. He will be coming off the bench and minute restricted.

Why put him and his Achilles under the pressures that you're talking about? For what purpose? They're not a championship roster right now.


our roster is far from complete, let's see how it all plays out.... Achilles return range from 8-10 months depending on the severity. Still a ton of talent on this team and JT comes back around Feb/Mar. Time to reload not rebuild


I don't think anyone truly believes they're competing for a title next year. If they are then they're being ridiculously optimistic.

What happens in 2 years time? No Jrue, no KP, no Horford? Brown in his 30s, Tatum 29, White pushing 33.

Where and how do you expect for them to add the pieces to this team to move into championship contender quality? They can't just add guys in free agency, between the Jays and White they're already pushing up on the cap as it is and Boston isn't exactly destination City here.

So where are they going to get the assets to get the trade for the players needed to make the run?

I just don't see it.


Your tunnel vision is typically pessimistic man , I don’t see this group as a one and done. Banner 19 is the ultimate goal for JT/JB and CO.
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Post#1645 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:04 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
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Shak_Celts wrote:You expect advancements to stay the same as 6 years ago? KD was 30, JT turned 27, 4 months ago, had the surgery 2 months ago so he was practically 26.

I don’t expect anything, In just not ready for son and gloom well before we know anything!


It makes zero sense for a dude coming off a major injury to ramp up for the playoffs where he got his injury in the first place.

Tatum will be back by next playoffs I'm sure. He will be coming off the bench and minute restricted.

Why put him and his Achilles under the pressures that you're talking about? For what purpose? They're not a championship roster right now.


our roster is far from complete, let's see how it all plays out.... Achilles return range from 8-10 months depending on the severity. Still a ton of talent on this team and JT comes back around Feb/Mar. Time to reload not rebuild

According to ChatGPT:

"Jayson Tatum suffered a complete rupture of his right Achilles tendon on May 12, 2025, during Game 4 against the Knicks and underwent successful surgery the next day

Based on medical norms and expert predictions:

Most Achilles recoveries for NBA players take 7–15 months, with no player returning in under 10½ months

ESPN and other analysts believe it’s likely he’ll miss the entire 2025–26 regular season, with a playoff return being the only possible scenario

His swift surgery (just hours after injury) and his youth (27 at injury time) provide the best-case context, but still, a return mid‑season 2025–26 (e.g., around February) is optimistic and far from certain

So, will Tatum play in the 2025–26 season? Unlikely during the regular season—expect him to sit out most or all of it.

A potential limited return late in the season or during the playoffs could happen, but there’s no precedent and it remains highly uncertain.

In summary: It’s very probable that Jayson Tatum will not appear in any regular‑season games in 2025–26. A postseason return is the only realistic hope, but it's not guaranteed."

My 2 cents: There doesn't seem to be a precedent for a player coming back from an injury of this level of severity, that late in the season. It's best to play it safe, not rush him back. Especially a guy who's our franchise player, in his prime. It's not worth the risk, to possibly bring him back too soon, and then have him re-injure it and then be out even longer the next time.

Especially since we won't be a contender next season because a) Wyc said (even before Tatum's injury) that we're trimming payroll, getting under the 2nd apron..and obviously the Jrue trade and all the KP trade rumors support that and b) Even if Tatum did come back late in the season, we're not winning a title with our best player coming off such a recent achilles surgery and not even being able to play half the season before the playoffs.
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Post#1646 » by The Corey's » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:10 pm

tfribs45 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
tfribs45 wrote:
our roster is far from complete, let's see how it all plays out.... Achilles return range from 8-10 months depending on the severity. Still a ton of talent on this team and JT comes back around Feb/Mar. Time to reload not rebuild


I don't think anyone truly believes they're competing for a title next year. If they are then they're being ridiculously optimistic.

What happens in 2 years time? No Jrue, no KP, no Horford? Brown in his 30s, Tatum 29, White pushing 33.

Where and how do you expect for them to add the pieces to this team to move into championship contender quality? They can't just add guys in free agency, between the Jays and White they're already pushing up on the cap as it is and Boston isn't exactly destination City here.

So where are they going to get the assets to get the trade for the players needed to make the run?

I just don't see it.


Your tunnel vision is typically pessimistic man , I don’t see this group as a one and done. Banner 19 is the ultimate goal for JT/JB and CO.


I'm being pessimistic because I want to start accumulating assets for the future?

It's not a pessimistic view to say they're not a championship team next year. It's almost as close to a fact as you can get.

I haven't even mentioned the **** coaching one time in this entire thread. Better believe that's gonna show it's ugly head next year more than ever.
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Post#1647 » by GoCeltics123 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:11 pm

A league source stressed late Monday night that the Celtics acquired Simons because they believe he can bolster the roster, but the source added that the team will “remain engaged on all fronts” in the coming days and weeks. So, there is certainly a chance the Celtics will soon flip Simons in another cost-cutting move.


So up in the air he's on the team to start the year
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Post#1648 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:12 pm

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Post#1649 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:13 pm

I'd even consider Milwaukee for KP if we can get that 2031 unprotected first. I'd probably even take back Kuzma if we could move him for lesser salaried pieces.

Porzingis, Shake Milton to Milwaukee
Kyle Kuzma to LAL
Jarred Vanderbilt, Maxi Kleber, Milwauke 2031 FRP to Boston

Milwaukee is just trying to take swings to surround Giannis with talent. LAL gets off Vando's 3rd year and nets a several million savings. Celts move Kleber (w/ 2nds) or stretch him. Move Hauser into a MLE or TPE and you are under 2nd apron. Vando we just live with for a year or two, lol
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Post#1650 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:16 pm

djFan71 wrote:There's always the DET option. Stewart and Fontecchio for KP & Hauser.
Flip Fontecchio to a MLE / cap space team.

That gets us to $5.7M under the 2nd apron with 13 guys - counting JD, 28 & 32.
Enough to sign Luke alone to get to 14.
Or drop JD and you have $8M to split between Luke and Al.

Coming out with Simons and Stewart and a few 2nds isn't a bad outcome all told.

I like Stewart, bonus for how likely it is he will try again to beat up Lebron, lol
But i think detroit just loves him

I'd do it from our side though
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Post#1651 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:16 pm

djFan71 wrote:There's always the DET option. Stewart and Fontecchio for KP & Hauser.
Flip Fontecchio to a MLE / cap space team.

That gets us to $5.7M under the 2nd apron with 13 guys - counting JD, 28 & 32.
Enough to sign Luke alone to get to 14.
Or drop JD and you have $8M to split between Luke and Al.

Coming out with Simons and Stewart and a few 2nds isn't a bad outcome all told.


Do you think Luke will sign that cheaply?
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Post#1652 » by Hal14 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:19 pm

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Post#1653 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:21 pm

Trade floodgates now open!

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Post#1654 » by Gant » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:22 pm

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The New Orleans Pelicans are trading CJ McCollum, Kelly Olynyk and a future second-round pick to the Washington Wizards for Jordan Poole, Saddiq Bey and the No. 40 pick, sources tell ESPN.

The trade swaps guards -- the Wizards shifting from Poole to the veteran in McCollum, who has an expiring contract. Washington now is expected to approach $100 million in projected cap space in 2026. Pelicans move younger, possibly more dynamic with Poole and Bey.
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Post#1655 » by 165bows » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:23 pm

Washington Wizards where all the Celtics of years past go to rot apparently.

Anyways can we get KO back already?
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Post#1656 » by Bill Lumbergh » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:25 pm

Speaking of Shams, I thought NBA coverage was more interesting when both he and Woj tried to out-scoop one another. Now, it's just Shams. Need another up and comer to start to rival Shams.
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Post#1657 » by The Corey's » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:25 pm

165bows wrote:Washington Wizards where all the Celtics of years past go to rot apparently.

Anyways can we get KO back already?


**** no
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Post#1658 » by Jellybeans » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:27 pm

Thats what u get CJ for making this CBA :lol:
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Post#1659 » by chrisab123 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:31 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Trade floodgates now open!

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The Hornets actually took Poole? Holy god
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Post#1660 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Tue Jun 24, 2025 7:38 pm

The Corey's wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:No complaints about the trade. I loved Holiday but he was starting to be cooked. Goal here was to save money so Boston will either trade him at the deadline if not they will just let him walk at the end of season.


No way he walks. We're over the cap and can't just let pieces walk without a return.

Also they need to get under the second apron before the end of the trade deadline.

One of Simons, KP or White have to go with almost nothing coming back in return for salary.


Seems like Bostons #1 priority is getting under the second apron because they won't be contending next season. Would not shock me if he never plays a minute for this team and is traded in the next few weeks for more picks.
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