2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

[tontoz]

I said a few months ago if Kon was 3" taller then i would be interested because he could play the 3/4.

If KG was shrunk down to Kon's size his effectiveness would go way down.

[prime1time]

I am not watching a 2+ hour vid on Kon, unless i need some help falling asleep

It takes 5 minutes of watching the defense portion of each video to see the difference between the two. The Kispert comparisons are incredibly lazy on every level.

Kon is significantly better than Kispert. Kispert was drafted 15 as a senior. Kon is a freshman and is going to go at worst top 8. If you watch those Duke games in the ACC tourney after Flagg went down the offense ran through Kon and it didn''t miss a beat. I think he's going to be better than people think. With that being said, there's a large gap between the defender that Flagg is and the defender that Kon is. Kon may be a better defender than Kispert but I do have concerns about his defense. Building out my vision for the Wiz, I would have strong two way wing defenders that can switch onto multiple positions. For this reason I don't really like Kon or Fears and would prefer Bailey or Maluach. When you watch the finals or the playoffs teams have multiple solid defenders and no real points of weakness. If I'm the Wiz I would trade up for Bailey.

[TGW]

I am not watching a 2+ hour vid on Kon, unless i need some help falling asleep

It's better than watching an actual Wizards game, that's for sure.

[closg00]

Hi, my name is Corey and I love getting blocked at the rim. Good Luck Kon.

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[tontoz]

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Is this a joke? The first few plays are inside finishes, something Kispert does very well. For his career Kispert shoots 59% on 2s.

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[AFM]

I can't be the only one extremely unimpressed with his highlights. Dude is shooting two handed layups off both feet at the rim after 7 pump fakes. Try that sht in the NBA and Daniel Gafford is going to send the ball into the 400 section.

[payitforward]

I think I'll put my preferences with our top pick as:
1.) Harper
2.) VJ
3.) Bailey
4.) Maluach
5.) Fears

At slot 18.) It's harder to do this one because so many different guys could fall, or go way earlier than expected, so I'm gonna plug them in from top to bottom:

Tier 1: Probably a trade up, but it would be insane for these guys to fall far enough to justify it.
1.Maluach (Trade up)
2. Fears (Trade up)

Tier 2: Love the upside, or simply locked in skill sets mix:
3. Nolan Traore
4. Carter Bryant
5. Joan Beringer
6. Cedric Coward

Tier 3: Really happy to get them at 18, or with tiny move up:
7. Thomas Sorber
8. CMB
9. Liam McNeely

Tier 4: Probably getable in a trade down:
10. Rasheer Fleming
11. Egor Demin
12. Drake Powell
13. Ben Saraf

Tier 5: PIF Special: Acknowledging that PIF's dream of a billion picks in the 15-55 zone has validity in this super deep bunch of guys available around 15-45...includes some of the above guys (probably Powell, and Saraf go 25-35) and the below....
14. Adou Thiero
15. Walter Clayton-Violating my age rule
16. Noah Penda
17. Will Riley

There's probably more guys than this that I need to dig into, but if one thing is clear, this draft is just chock full of guys probably 20-30 deep, that typically go 15-30 in most drafts, but will go 20-40 in this one. This is a great, great, great draft to have multiple picks in the 15-35 zone in particular.

If there's one thing I'd definitely consider doing, and it 1000% violates my "too many 18-22 year olds on the roster rule), it's try to trade some future 2nds to get into the early 2nd round to vacuum up scraps that fall into that 25-40 area.

My favorites of them that appear in mocks in that zone in no particular order:
Clayton Jr
Drake Powell
Fleming (he falls that far in latest athletic mock)
Penda
Saraf
Thiero
Raynaud
Yanic Niederhouse

I do think the fall off probably starts somewhere in that 40-45 area, so what I'd love us to do personally, is trade a future 2nd and our current 2nd to climb into the 25-35 zone, or at worst, trade down from 18 if our targets are gone for goodies in the 25-35 zone (like two picks there instead of one).

Yes, PIF, for once, I am actually on the same page in terms of what I see as the HUGE value of the class (which is primarily 1-5 in this one, and probably around 12-35 as well, there's a zone between around 10-14 that lasts to 35 that is just stuffed to the gills in guys that seemingly always go in most drafts 8-20, an absolute ton of guys that are top 20ish in average classes to me....so if we could have two dart throws between 15-35, rather than the 18 and the 40, I'd be really happy. Hell, I'd take 3, if they could be like 18, 25 and like 33 or something. Would love, love, love to steal a Saraf, a Powell, or a Thiero in particular in the early 2nd (maybe Penda too).

Two weird guys to me lately are Fleming and Traore who I've seen in two different mocks in the last week in the 25-30 zone, when I had seen Traore climbing the past 2 months, and Fleming I'd always assumed was locked into 15-25, but it appears he's fallen more to 20-35.

Great work, Consig.... This is one of those drafts where I really do wish I could come away with 5 guys! But, 3 will be good as well!

I don't see Essengue on any of your lists, btw -- I'd put him up there with Beringer....

[nate33]

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Is this a joke? The first few plays are inside finishes, something Kispert does very well. For his career Kispert shoots 59% on 2s.

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Yeah. Kispert is outstanding at finishing at the rim.

[80sballboy]

Oh shi-t. Just traded Jordan Poole for CJ McCollum with 40th pick.

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[tontoz]

WOW

CJ is an expiring deal.

[gambitx777]

I remember plenty of people saying these same things about clay.

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You probably don't remember that Klay was almost a full second faster than Kon in the lane agility test. Klay was also taller with a +3 wingspan as well.

You also apparently don't remember how to spell his name lol.

We also know he's listed at 6'5 these days and I can't even find kons times any where.

I also know it's weak sauce to make fun of a dyslexic person for not being able to spell.

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[tontoz]

I remember plenty of people saying these same things about clay.

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You probably don't remember that Klay was almost a full second faster than Kon in the lane agility test. Klay was also taller with a +3 wingspan as well.

You also apparently don't remember how to spell his name lol.

We also know he's listed at 6'5 these days and I can't even find kons times any where.

I also know it's weak sauce to make fun of a dyslexic person for not being able to spell.

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Sorry I didn't know. Combine numbers back to 2000 are here:

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro

[Hidden Eye]

Oh shi-t. Just traded Jordan Poole for CJ McCollum with 40th pick.

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Terrible Trade

Unless the Wizards are getting the 10th pick or 3rd pick from 76ers or Suns without giving up the 6th pick.. this is pretty bad and a waste.

Could have waited and got I don't know an actual first round pick?

2026 is too early to get cap space because they don't need a big FA signing right now.

[doclinkin]

Another ‘why?’ trade that I hope makes sense later. Usually as part of a different move.

Does suggest we are looking at a guard in the draft. Or a high usage gunner like Ace.

[pcbothwel]

Oh shi-t. Just traded Jordan Poole for CJ McCollum with 40th pick.

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Terrible Trade

Unless the Wizards are getting the 10th pick or 3rd pick from 76ers or Suns without giving up the 6th pick.. this is pretty bad and a waste.

Could have waited and got I don't know an actual first round pick?

2026 is too early to get cap space because they don't need a big FA signing right now.

Tell me you're kidding.
We just cleared $40M in cap space next year for nothing as the 2 2nds >= #40
We have now have ~100M in expiring, rotation worthy vets in Midds, Smart, KO, and CJ.

[tontoz]

How can anyone be mad about this move? Last year Poole was so bad he was untradable. This past season he improved enough to be tradable and they got rid of him. If Poole regressed this season coming up we would have been stuck with him.

They just corrected their mistake.

[closg00]

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Is this a joke? The first few plays are inside finishes, something Kispert does very well. For his career Kispert shoots 59% on 2s.

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Yeah. Kispert is outstanding at finishing at the rim.

I would like to see the Synergy data on this, does it included blocks or missed attempts at the rim. My complaint about Corey is I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen him get blocked at the rim, or missed point-blank layups when defended.

[Hidden Eye]

Oh shi-t. Just traded Jordan Poole for CJ McCollum with 40th pick.

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Terrible Trade

Unless the Wizards are getting the 10th pick or 3rd pick from 76ers or Suns without giving up the 6th pick.. this is pretty bad and a waste.

Could have waited and got I don't know an actual first round pick?

2026 is too early to get cap space because they don't need a big FA signing right now.

Tell me you're kidding.
We just cleared $40M in cap space next year for nothing as the 2 2nds >= #40
We have now have ~100M in expiring, rotation worthy vets in Midds, Smart, KO, and CJ.

What does 2026 cap space have to do with the Wizards?

They aren't going to the Finals next in 2027 unfortunately.

[tontoz]

I would like to see the Synergy data on this, does it included blocks or missed attempts at the rim. My complaint about Corey is I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen him get blocked at the rim, or missed point-blank layups when defended.

Of course it does lol. Those are missed shots. And that is all 2s not just shots close in.

At the rim he shoots 76.6% for his career per bbref.

[closg00]

I thought that a healthy Bey was going to net us more in trade, but ok, glad to see you Poole go…but no 2nd round pick on a Center so Kelly will have to do.