2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[GoCeltics123]

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[The Corey's]

No complaints about the trade. I loved Holiday but he was starting to be cooked. Goal here was to save money so Boston will either trade him at the deadline if not they will just let him walk at the end of season.

No way he walks. We're over the cap and can't just let pieces walk without a return.

Also they need to get under the second apron before the end of the trade deadline.

One of Simons, KP or White have to go with almost nothing coming back in return for salary.

Seems like Bostons #1 priority is getting under the second apron because they won't be contending next season. Would not shock me if he never plays a minute for this team and is traded in the next few weeks for more picks.

Right. But if he is traded this year then we get something in return.

[djFan71]

There's always the DET option. Stewart and Fontecchio for KP & Hauser.
Flip Fontecchio to a MLE / cap space team.

That gets us to $5.7M under the 2nd apron with 13 guys - counting JD, 28 & 32.
Enough to sign Luke alone to get to 14.
Or drop JD and you have $8M to split between Luke and Al.

Coming out with Simons and Stewart and a few 2nds isn't a bad outcome all told.

I like Stewart, bonus for how likely it is he will try again to beat up Lebron, lol
But i think detroit just loves him

I'd do it from our side though

Yeah, we may have to sweeten or it's just a non-starter. Not sure. I've seen DET people mention getting KP before on T&T, though.

Do you think Luke will sign that cheaply?

I think min is optimistic, but on the fringe of feasible. But if we can offer him at/near the TPMLE, ie that full $5.7M, I think that might do it. I doubt (too m)any teams offer the full MLE for him. Plus, he seems to like it here. Give him a 2 year with a player option for next summer so we can give him more if the numbers allow????

[djFan71]

Trade floodgates now open!

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That KD domino kicking it all off. Pelicans were just holding out to see if they could get him...

[djFan71]

Thats what u get CJ for making this CBA

lol, that's perfect.

[Jellybeans]

Detroit Pistons team president Trajan Langdon said the Pistons “aren’t going to be super aggressive” this summer. He said Detroit is more interested in improving internally and around the margins.

Pistons wont make big changes.They best 5 didnt even play 1 game together.

[tfribs45]

I don't think anyone truly believes they're competing for a title next year. If they are then they're being ridiculously optimistic.

What happens in 2 years time? No Jrue, no KP, no Horford? Brown in his 30s, Tatum 29, White pushing 33.

Where and how do you expect for them to add the pieces to this team to move into championship contender quality? They can't just add guys in free agency, between the Jays and White they're already pushing up on the cap as it is and Boston isn't exactly destination City here.

So where are they going to get the assets to get the trade for the players needed to make the run?

I just don't see it.

Your tunnel vision is typically pessimistic man , I don’t see this group as a one and done. Banner 19 is the ultimate goal for JT/JB and CO.

I'm being pessimistic because I want to start accumulating assets for the future?

It's not a pessimistic view to say they're not a championship team next year. It's almost as close to a fact as you can get.

I haven't even mentioned the **** coaching one time in this entire thread. Better believe that's gonna show it's ugly head next year more than ever.

Ill agree with you on our sidelines. Joey is more of an assistant then actual HC. Doesn't look like the Celtics Brass is going to let him go anytime soon. Hopefully we add a vet coach on the sidelines to help run actual gametime plays in crucial moments.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Just popping by to confirm that the Spurs have shown interest in KP. Can anyone else confirm?

[redslastlaugh]

Can only confirm that Spurs fans are talking about it.
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305255

Just popping by to confirm that the Spurs have shown interest in KP. Can anyone else confirm?

[Jellybeans]

Just popping by to confirm that the Spurs have shown interest in KP. Can anyone else confirm?

10-12 teams
NOLA,HAWKS,LAKERS,GSW,Spurs and Suns where made public.
How serious none knows

[celtxman]

Can we move Hauser and get under the 2nd apron without moving KP?

This might be an unpopular opinion but I'd prefer to keep KP and extend him at a lower salary if possible.

On the surface no. They only saved $4.7 million in the Holiday deal. They are now $18 million over the 2nd apron with a minimum of 4 roster spots to fill. Since Hauser is on the books for 2025-26 you can save at most $8 million by trading him with nothing coming back. But two of those 4 players we hope are Kornet and Horford. Let's say we get incredible hometown discounts and they sign for the $8million gained in trading Hauser. Then they sign two minimum players to have the minimum 14 player roster. Now you are at $20 million over. Can they make a trade to shave off $20 million with Simons? Maybe. It is at least possibility that didn't exist with Jrue's contract. But they would need to in essence trade a $28 million per contract for an $8 million contract. What team in today's apron world trades an $8 million f
The Holiday trade tells us a lot. They couldn't get enough lowered to get them close to the 2nd apron, so they got some money taken off and some talent back. To me that tells us more about KP. Maybe they know more about this illness then they let on.
Realistically now to me it's trade KP or Brown.

[SparringPartner]

Detroit Pistons team president Trajan Langdon said the Pistons “aren’t going to be super aggressive” this summer. He said Detroit is more interested in improving internally and around the margins.

Pistons wont make big changes.They best 5 didnt even play 1 game together.

What's he supposed to say, other than that?

[SparringPartner]

Can we move Hauser and get under the 2nd apron without moving KP?

This might be an unpopular opinion but I'd prefer to keep KP and extend him at a lower salary if possible.

On the surface no. They only saved $4.7 million in the Holiday deal. They are now $18 million over the 2nd apron with a minimum of 4 roster spots to fill. Since Hauser is on the books for 2025-26 you can save at most $8 million by trading him with nothing coming back. But two of those 4 players we hope are Kornet and Horford. Let's say we get incredible hometown discounts and they sign for the $8million gained in trading Hauser. Then they sign two minimum players to have the minimum 14 player roster. Now you are at $20 million over. Can they make a trade to shave off $20 million with Simons? Maybe. It is at least possibility that didn't exist with Jrue's contract. But they would need to in essence trade a $28 million per contract for an $8 million contract. What team in today's apron world trades an $8 million f
The Holiday trade tells us a lot. They couldn't get enough lowered to get them close to the 2nd apron, so they got some money taken off and some talent back. To me that tells us more about KP. Maybe they know more about this illness then they let on.
Realistically now to me it's trade KP or Brown.

No Holiday, KP, Hauser, Kornet, Al
+ Simons

Championship or bust

Pretty sure JT/JB needed all that to compete for a championship. How do you get even close to that going forward? Treadmill, here we come.

[djFan71]

Can we move Hauser and get under the 2nd apron without moving KP?

This might be an unpopular opinion but I'd prefer to keep KP and extend him at a lower salary if possible.

On the surface no. They only saved $4.7 million in the Holiday deal. They are now $18 million over the 2nd apron with a minimum of 4 roster spots to fill. Since Hauser is on the books for 2025-26 you can save at most $8 million by trading him with nothing coming back. But two of those 4 players we hope are Kornet and Horford. Let's say we get incredible hometown discounts and they sign for the $8million gained in trading Hauser. Then they sign two minimum players to have the minimum 14 player roster. Now you are at $20 million over. Can they make a trade to shave off $20 million with Simons? Maybe. It is at least possibility that didn't exist with Jrue's contract. But they would need to in essence trade a $28 million per contract for an $8 million contract. What team in today's apron world trades an $8 million f
The Holiday trade tells us a lot. They couldn't get enough lowered to get them close to the 2nd apron, so they got some money taken off and some talent back. To me that tells us more about KP. Maybe they know more about this illness then they let on.
Realistically now to me it's trade KP or Brown.

No Holiday, KP, Hauser, Kornet, Al
+ Simons

Championship or bust

Pretty sure JT/JB needed all that to compete for a championship. How do you get even close to that going forward? Treadmill, here we come.

Simons, White, Brown, Player X, Kornet
Pritchard, Scheierman, Walsh, Tillman, Queta
JD, 28, 32
* Tatum

If player X makes < $15M you can make it work. Less means more $ for Luke / more likelihood of return. Possibly Al too.

Switch Pritchard/Simons around if you want, but I think since he's new/bad on D he makes more sense with the starters. Pritchard can really run things on the bench units.

[GreenBlooded]

The Holiday trade tells us a lot. They couldn't get enough lowered to get them close to the 2nd apron, so they got some money taken off and some talent back. To me that tells us more about KP. Maybe they know more about this illness then they let on.
Realistically now to me it's trade KP or Brown.

That is one possibility. It could also tell us that they know Simons contact is easier to find a partner to absorb money so they collected a couple picks from Portland and the only thing that has changed is they're now shopping Simons instead of Holiday

[celtxman]

The Holiday trade tells us a lot. They couldn't get enough lowered to get them close to the 2nd apron, so they got some money taken off and some talent back. To me that tells us more about KP. Maybe they know more about this illness then they let on.
Realistically now to me it's trade KP or Brown.

That is one possibility. It could also tell us that they know Simons contact is easier to find a partner to absorb money so they collected a couple picks from Portland and the only thing that has changed is they're now shopping Simons instead of Holiday

Yes. This was a good deal for real flexibility.

[BillessuR6]

Porzingis+28 for Barnes+Wesley+14th pick

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[GreenBlooded]

That is one possibility. It could also tell us that they know Simons contact is easier to find a partner to absorb money so they collected a couple picks from Portland and the only thing that has changed is they're now shopping Simons instead of Holiday

Yes. This was a good deal for real flexibility.

Yup. It makes it fun too that the first domino has fallen but we have the same level of suspense bc the trade doesn't give a clear indication of the direction Brad is going

[brackdan70]

Porzingis+28 for Barnes+Wesley+14th pick

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That seems a pretty bullish valuation on KP.
He is the best player in the trade, but not by that much.

[jfs1000d]

Yeah KP needs to be shipped. Decent player. Made out of glass. With him its all about luck. So far any team he has been on he's been out. Thanks KP but dont let the door hit you on your way out.

People are silly. He needs to be shipped because of tatum’s injury. Celtics don’t have an expectation of a title run and vets like KP and Jrue are expensive and won’t be here in 2026-27 when Tatum is full strength.

At this point, Jrue and KP are win now pieces that are luxury for Celtics. When you consider no Tatum and the CBA, Boston can’t spend what it is spending to not be a title contender.

Hence, KP has to be traded because he isn’t going to be a player we want to pay the tax on. Performance wise? We want and need him. This Season we aren’t a title contender and he is a waste.

It is the economics of the situation.

Boston has no bigs. Unless Horford and/or Kornet return on very team friendly deals. Kornet has to come back under the MLE price or we go with Queta.


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