2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (Wow this is fun!)

[playa-hater]

I wonder if there is a KP holdup because other teams are trying to negotiate an extension with him first.

[GreenFor3]

I’m no longer opposed to getting off JB, I don’t want it, but I’ll be okay if it’s going to catapult us into more winning. I’m opposed to the idea that we have to be bad just because Tatum is down for a while. I’m opposed to trading him just because some of you think life stops without Tatum.

I don’t want to watch a losing team just because some of you think we’ll hit the gem of the lottery one day. I want to be entertained, losing is not entertaining.

Sure, I’ll stick around through the losing, but we shouldn’t have to. CBA, MMA, BBL the Celtics can be competitive and still build better.

We may not win the chip, but I believed Brad when he said he is the wrong man if it’s tanking you’re looking for. Danny found that out the hard way when he tried giving Brad, um… some guys, and we were still competitive in the playoffs.

I don’t think anyone is advocating for spending years in the lottery. A one year dip while Tatum is out makes sense (see Spurs or Warriors for historical examples of doing so with injured stars). Even if all we have left is bums Tatum can drag them to the playoffs in the east so the C’s wouldn’t be in the lottery for longer. It’s just about retooling to build around Tatum for his prime post injury.

C’s still have a lot of picks available too so in a year or two they can cash those in to make some upgrades too.

[leper-con]

I agree withgeeenfor3, next years draft also has a ton of talent in the lottery

[chrisab123]

Celtics trade KP/Hauser
get Rui and #22

Lakers trade Knecht, Rui and Kleber
get KP/Hauser

ATL trades TPE and #22
gets Knecht and Kleber

Then just dump Rui for 2nds later to save more money.

**** the Lakers. I would be pissed if they traded JD Davidson to that franchise.

[chrisab123]

I’m no longer opposed to getting off JB, I don’t want it, but I’ll be okay if it’s going to catapult us into more winning. I’m opposed to the idea that we have to be bad just because Tatum is down for a while. I’m opposed to trading him just because some of you think life stops without Tatum.

I don’t want to watch a losing team just because some of you think we’ll hit the gem of the lottery one day. I want to be entertained, losing is not entertaining.

Sure, I’ll stick around through the losing, but we shouldn’t have to. CBA, MMA, BBL the Celtics can be competitive and still build better.

We may not win the chip, but I believed Brad when he said he is the wrong man if it’s tanking you’re looking for. Danny found that out the hard way when he tried giving Brad, um… some guys, and we were still competitive in the playoffs.

I don’t think anyone is advocating for spending years in the lottery. A one year dip while Tatum is out makes sense (see Spurs or Warriors for historical examples of doing so with injured stars). Even if all we have left is bums Tatum can drag them to the playoffs in the east so the C’s wouldn’t be in the lottery for longer. It’s just about retooling to build around Tatum for his prime post injury.

C’s still have a lot of picks available too so in a year or two they can cash those in to make some upgrades too.

Yeah the reality is however that it’s almost never a 1 year stop. 1 year turns to 3 turns to the Wizards really quick. Rebuilding isn’t a guarantee. The only reason the Celtics are currently relevant is because they didn’t tank and they made some good moves that allowed them to get the Brooklyn picks.

[djFan71]

Celtics trade KP/Hauser
get Rui and #22

Lakers trade Knecht, Rui and Kleber
get KP/Hauser

ATL trades TPE and #22
gets Knecht and Kleber

Then just dump Rui for 2nds later to save more money.

ATL might need 32 back. Knecht has value, but maybe 22 at best, then they eat Kleber for the pleasure.

And, man, Rui is so close to working actually. If you sign 22, 28, keep JD, you're $1.1M under the apron with only 13 guys.
No Kornet or Al, but within tap-dancing room at the end of the season.

Flip Rui back to WAS for KO and some 2nds. It's inevitable we get him back. And they get Rui back. Win/win for everyone but Rui...

Yeah this is the understated story this team has no established players ready to play under contract next year. Even that deal above is a net negative in minutes played since Rui alone isn't playing the 2700 minutes Hauser/KP played. And KO even less.

Posted it in the draft thread but they are about to draft 2-4 senior late first/second round picks this week. No young players allowed coming in this week.

Yeah, tons of outgoing minutes. I think it's great, tbh. Joe has to play Baylor. ABSOLUTELY has to play Queta. And probably one of the draftees as well. Front-court minutes are really lacking even if we get Luke back.

If we keep Simons, I'm kinda laser focused on the $10-15M big man list. Keep Kornet, Queta and that guy.
It's not a big list: Isaac, Stewart, PJ, Gafford, Toppin, KO, Clarke, Vandy, WCJ.

[GreenFor3]

I’m no longer opposed to getting off JB, I don’t want it, but I’ll be okay if it’s going to catapult us into more winning. I’m opposed to the idea that we have to be bad just because Tatum is down for a while. I’m opposed to trading him just because some of you think life stops without Tatum.

I don’t want to watch a losing team just because some of you think we’ll hit the gem of the lottery one day. I want to be entertained, losing is not entertaining.

Sure, I’ll stick around through the losing, but we shouldn’t have to. CBA, MMA, BBL the Celtics can be competitive and still build better.

We may not win the chip, but I believed Brad when he said he is the wrong man if it’s tanking you’re looking for. Danny found that out the hard way when he tried giving Brad, um… some guys, and we were still competitive in the playoffs.

I don’t think anyone is advocating for spending years in the lottery. A one year dip while Tatum is out makes sense (see Spurs or Warriors for historical examples of doing so with injured stars). Even if all we have left is bums Tatum can drag them to the playoffs in the east so the C’s wouldn’t be in the lottery for longer. It’s just about retooling to build around Tatum for his prime post injury.

C’s still have a lot of picks available too so in a year or two they can cash those in to make some upgrades too.

Yeah the reality is however that it’s almost never a 1 year stop. 1 year turns to 3 turns to the Wizards really quick.

Well I gave 2 examples of it already and the wizards don’t have Tatum coming back from injury in a year. Plus the Celtics front office is much more competent.

[djFan71]

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ATL might need 32 back. Knecht has value, but maybe 22 at best, then they eat Kleber for the pleasure.

And, man, Rui is so close to working actually. If you sign 22, 28, keep JD, you're $1.1M under the apron with only 13 guys.
No Kornet or Al, but within tap-dancing room at the end of the season.

Flip Rui back to WAS for KO and some 2nds. It's inevitable we get him back. And they get Rui back. Win/win for everyone but Rui...

Yeah this is the understated story this team has no established players ready to play under contract next year. Even that deal above is a net negative in minutes played since Rui alone isn't playing the 2700 minutes Hauser/KP played. And KO even less.

Posted it in the draft thread but they are about to draft 2-4 senior late first/second round picks this week. No young players allowed coming in this week.

Yeah, tons of outgoing minutes. I think it's great, tbh. Joe has to play Baylor. ABSOLUTELY has to play Queta. And probably one of the draftees as well. Front-court minutes are really lacking even if we get Luke back.

If we keep Simons, I'm kinda laser focused on the $10-15M big man list. Keep Kornet, Queta and that guy.
It's not a big list: Isaac, Stewart, PJ, Gafford, Toppin, KO, Clarke, Vandy, WCJ.

Yup I think that's the list. Wonder if Mike Muscala is still available lol.

Might as well add some less appealing cheaper names like KJ Martin and Goga Bitadze, Kyle Anderson, plus Niang/Fontecchio.

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Limited hangouts don't go out for no reason

Way closer than he is making it seem.

[Hal14]

Where are we if we get rid of simons with no money back, keep porzingis and maybe resign Al to a two year deal with say vet min this year and $10m next year. Or do the same for Kornet, pay him low money this year but higher money down the road. Or both. I think we still have to get rid of Hauser in that scenario. we run it back minus Jrue and Hauser. Pick up someone in the draft. Add a vet guard on minimum. We see where we are in February. If Tatum is coming back and Porzingis and everyone else is healthy, we look to see if we can make a run. If not, we adjust.

Nah, I want Porzingis gone. He's damaged goods. Can't stay healthy, can't be counted on.

All signs point to him being traded to get under the 2nd apron.

Reports are saying there's like 10-12 teams interested in him.

Sayonara

[Shak_Celts]

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Who says that? The guy looking to trade Jokic in the next couple seasons. Don’t be surprised.

[djFan71]

Yeah this is the understated story this team has no established players ready to play under contract next year. Even that deal above is a net negative in minutes played since Rui alone isn't playing the 2700 minutes Hauser/KP played. And KO even less.

Posted it in the draft thread but they are about to draft 2-4 senior late first/second round picks this week. No young players allowed coming in this week.

Yeah, tons of outgoing minutes. I think it's great, tbh. Joe has to play Baylor. ABSOLUTELY has to play Queta. And probably one of the draftees as well. Front-court minutes are really lacking even if we get Luke back.

If we keep Simons, I'm kinda laser focused on the $10-15M big man list. Keep Kornet, Queta and that guy.
It's not a big list: Isaac, Stewart, PJ, Gafford, Toppin, KO, Clarke, Vandy, WCJ.

Yup I think that's the list. Wonder if Mike Muscala is still available lol.

Might as well add some less appealing cheaper names like KJ Martin and Goga Bitadze, Kyle Anderson, plus Niang/Fontecchio.

Oy, that less appealing list sure lives up to its name. But, yeah, that’s the next tier.

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Who says that? The guy looking to trade Jokic in the next couple seasons. Don’t be surprised.

I’ve thought it was a strong possibility all year, but at this point, they have trouble being the third most appealing offer.

[watsonthedragon]

Shams saying that JB is drawing significant interest from multiple teams.

[chrisab123]

I don’t think anyone is advocating for spending years in the lottery. A one year dip while Tatum is out makes sense (see Spurs or Warriors for historical examples of doing so with injured stars). Even if all we have left is bums Tatum can drag them to the playoffs in the east so the C’s wouldn’t be in the lottery for longer. It’s just about retooling to build around Tatum for his prime post injury.

C’s still have a lot of picks available too so in a year or two they can cash those in to make some upgrades too.

Yeah the reality is however that it’s almost never a 1 year stop. 1 year turns to 3 turns to the Wizards really quick.

Well I gave 2 examples of it already and the wizards don’t have Tatum coming back from injury in a year. Plus the Celtics front office is much more competent.

Cool. Charlotte Chicago Washington New Orleans Brooklyn Portland and Atlanta are almost always in the lottery or on the border of it. If you blow it up, nothing is guaranteed. Sacramento is back there too again after being the #2 seed a season before.

[redslastlaugh]

SteinyMo saying Atlanta getting into bidding for KP

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[SuperDeluxe]

SteinyMo saying Atlanta getting into bidding for KP

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The plot thickens

[meatball sub]

Big time oof on only getting crumbs for porzingis. These new owners hopefully are done gutting salary now

[Asian Celtic]

KP out, we get Niang