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mtcan wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Raps talk 23 min
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ringers-nba-draft-show/id1652760062?i=1000714259053
I don't see Masai having any interest in Jalen Green...with that contract of his...unless Phoenix is attaching a pick. Suns couldn't possibly want RJ in that scenario.
RaptorPride wrote:mtcan wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Raps talk 23 min
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ringers-nba-draft-show/id1652760062?i=1000714259053
I don't see Masai having any interest in Jalen Green...with that contract of his...unless Phoenix is attaching a pick. Suns couldn't possibly want RJ in that scenario.
I'm trading IQ for Green all day.
RaptorPride wrote:mtcan wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Raps talk 23 min
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ringers-nba-draft-show/id1652760062?i=1000714259053
I don't see Masai having any interest in Jalen Green...with that contract of his...unless Phoenix is attaching a pick. Suns couldn't possibly want RJ in that scenario.
I'm trading IQ for Green all day.
Grew wrote:MoneyBall wrote:Grew wrote:
But you didn't watch him play right? He's a guy you have to watch. The numbers can't tell his story, all they can do is caution you of his downside.
His elite skill is ballhandling. He might not be an elite vertical athlete, but he has elite speed with the ball.
He's got fine size to be a PG. He didn't shoot well numbers wise, but he believes in his shot and he can create his own. His percentage is lower in large part due to how many came off the bounce and in defenders faces. He can make those shots. He's not some guy who struggles to shoot 30 percent on wide open catch and shoot threes.
He's got that star aura. You have to watch him to see it. Preferably full games. He led a tournament team when he was suppose to still be in high school.
If you want upside, he's got it.
I have seen him play, and I've got serious reservations about the guy's upside. I can't draft a guy in the lottery primarily based on vibes and aura. How many smallish guards who can't shoot and have good but not great athleticism go on to become stars in the NBA? The success rate ain't good.
Then we just disagree. I believe in his shot. I believe in his speed with the ball being an elite athletic trait, lots of guys who are more athletic but can't get to spots because they can't handle it like Fears. I believe in his upside being among the highest in the draft, although I do recognize he has a lower floor compared to some people in his range. For me, he's a guy I absolutely would bet on, especially for an organization that has been looking for a game changing type talent. If he's there at 9, no way I pass him. There are more solid bets out there if all you want is a role player, but if Fears is on the board I would rather have him bust than use 9 on a solid 7th man type.
CazOnReal wrote:RaptorPride wrote:mtcan wrote:I don't see Masai having any interest in Jalen Green...with that contract of his...unless Phoenix is attaching a pick. Suns couldn't possibly want RJ in that scenario.
I'm trading IQ for Green all day.
That might be the worst trade Masai ever does if he pulled it off straight up
TimeForChange wrote:RaptorPride wrote:mtcan wrote:I don't see Masai having any interest in Jalen Green...with that contract of his...unless Phoenix is attaching a pick. Suns couldn't possibly want RJ in that scenario.
I'm trading IQ for Green all day.
omg stop
Tha Cynic wrote:Love the way a player like Amen Thompson plays. If you're an elite defender and can use your body to get to the rim and have that aggressiveness, that's a win. I'll take the risk that CMB can't shoot
grant101 wrote:LoveMyRaps wrote:grant101 wrote:
Ooof! Selecting Josh Minott 2.0 in the lottery in a strong draft sets this team back years.
lol I think I’ll trust Masai over you.
Or you could take a look at the tape and stats and decide for yourself. Masai has a good eye but is not infallible and often falls in love with projects.
WuTang_OG wrote:Derik Queen came to Toronto and chose to do the evaluation only and not the workout
tf?
red flag
MoneyBall wrote:Grew wrote:MoneyBall wrote:I have seen him play, and I've got serious reservations about the guy's upside. I can't draft a guy in the lottery primarily based on vibes and aura. How many smallish guards who can't shoot and have good but not great athleticism go on to become stars in the NBA? The success rate ain't good.
Then we just disagree. I believe in his shot. I believe in his speed with the ball being an elite athletic trait, lots of guys who are more athletic but can't get to spots because they can't handle it like Fears. I believe in his upside being among the highest in the draft, although I do recognize he has a lower floor compared to some people in his range. For me, he's a guy I absolutely would bet on, especially for an organization that has been looking for a game changing type talent. If he's there at 9, no way I pass him. There are more solid bets out there if all you want is a role player, but if Fears is on the board I would rather have him bust than use 9 on a solid 7th man type.
Fears can handle the ball, that's not up for debate. The problem is he's a poor finisher around the basket and can't rely on his jumper either. He turns the ball over a bunch and he's not a freakish athlete to overcome all those deficiencies. He's on the smaller side and he got picked on the defensive end.
I honestly can't think of a guard who got drafted in the lottery having all those weaknesses and still turned out to become an NBA star. I'm not trying to be cute here, I honestly can't think of anyone. You (or anyone else) could legit get me to reconsider if you can show me a list of players who meet that criteria.
