2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[Negrodamus]

So it's VJ or trade down for Tre. Honestly, I would have said VJ yesterday but I'm thinking Tre plus assets is a better deal.

[the_process]

Are we talking about the Jrue trade? I don't see that as bailing Boston out at all. Simons is arguably a worse player than Jrue and BOS is still way over the 2nd apron. POR could have probably held BOS up and gotten instead of given a 2nd, but they want Jrue to mentor Scoot and Sharpe and they want to try and make the playoffs.

[OleSchool]

teams just love bailing out the Celtics

And the commish office loves bailing out the Lakers

[Mik317]

Are we talking about the Jrue trade? I don't see that as bailing Boston out at all. Simons is arguably a worse player than Jrue and BOS is still way over the 2nd apron. POR could have probably held BOS up and gotten instead of given a 2nd, but they want Jrue to mentor Scoot and Sharpe and they want to try and make the playoffs.

they got off a terrible contract for basically free

and probably will do the same with Tingus Pingus

[Arsenal]

So it's VJ or trade down for Tre. Honestly, I would have said VJ yesterday but I'm thinking Tre plus assets is a better deal.

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[Black Mage]

Are we talking about the Jrue trade? I don't see that as bailing Boston out at all. Simons is arguably a worse player than Jrue and BOS is still way over the 2nd apron. POR could have probably held BOS up and gotten instead of given a 2nd, but they want Jrue to mentor Scoot and Sharpe and they want to try and make the playoffs.

they got off a terrible contract for basically free

and probably will do the same with Tingus Pingus

In comparison we had to attach a Top 4 protected pick to dump Horford.

[Stanford]

If you're a quality organization, your players don't have a stink of them. Paul George would fetch a couple firsts if he were a Celtic.

[Stanford]

Will we have a separate Draft Day thread? I’ve sworn off Twitter/X but did like how there would be tweets before the selection was announced…

You could watch the Bodcast during the draft. I'm sure they're doing a live stream.

[Arsenal]

Noa Essengue bball iq shines through again in this interview! Perfect fit for Nick Nurse!!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1ljmvwc/noa_essengue_not_so_subtly_hints_at_the_raptors/

[the_process]

Are we talking about the Jrue trade? I don't see that as bailing Boston out at all. Simons is arguably a worse player than Jrue and BOS is still way over the 2nd apron. POR could have probably held BOS up and gotten instead of given a 2nd, but they want Jrue to mentor Scoot and Sharpe and they want to try and make the playoffs.

they got off a terrible contract for basically free

and probably will do the same with Tingus Pingus

In comparison we had to attach a Top 4 protected pick to dump Horford.

Top 6, then top 4. Which we wouldn't care about except the big doofus is shot and needs to be put out to pasture.

Horford was a bad trade. Clearly he still had gas in the tank. There was a rumor Morey had pressure from Joel to move Al ASAP. Morey's trades have been... underwhelming to say the least while in charge of the Sixers.

Yes, the C's will get a cheaper expiring and a 2nd for Fungus Mungus.

[Iverson Armband]

they got off a terrible contract for basically free

and probably will do the same with Tingus Pingus

In comparison we had to attach a Top 4 protected pick to dump Horford.

Top 6, then top 4. Which we wouldn't care about except the big doofus is shot and needs to be put out to pasture.

Horford was a bad trade. Clearly he still had gas in the tank. There was a rumor Morey had pressure from Joel to move Al ASAP. Morey's trades have been... underwhelming to say the least while in charge of the Sixers.

Yes, the C's will get a cheaper expiring and a 2nd for Fungus Mungus.

The Horford trade was probably his worst trade. Followed by the Melton trade. Every other trade was a pretty clear win for him, with some outright fleecings sprinkled in.

[zaz102]

In comparison we had to attach a Top 4 protected pick to dump Horford.

Top 6, then top 4. Which we wouldn't care about except the big doofus is shot and needs to be put out to pasture.

Horford was a bad trade. Clearly he still had gas in the tank. There was a rumor Morey had pressure from Joel to move Al ASAP. Morey's trades have been... underwhelming to say the least while in charge of the Sixers.

Yes, the C's will get a cheaper expiring and a 2nd for Fungus Mungus.

The Horford trade was probably his worst trade. Followed by the Melton trade. Every other trade was a pretty clear win for him, with some outright fleecings sprinkled in.

Wait. The Melton trade was bad?

[Stanford]

People hate Melton for some reason. He was great here.

[Mik317]

even then we gave up David Roddy for him

so yeah i don't get it.

Melton was great for us until he **** his back up

[M2J]

If Reed's upside is legit, then Fred is just a guy in the way. Reed is larger and had an enormous superstar 2-way profile going into the draft. Gotta play him and let him work through his mistakes.

The Warriors Podcaster that was on the last RtRS episode made some good points about this. This sounds good in theory, but tougher in practice.

Warriors tried to develop their young guys (Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody) a few years ago while have a contending roster. They lost a bunch of games and Kerr reversed course and started playing the better performing vets. They got back to winning and eventually won the title.

I think it makes sense to develop Sheppard and see if he can take over, but it would be irresponsible to not have a backup plan considering they just traded for Durant and their biggest need would be another guard any way.

True, I also think they wasted an entire year with the 3rd pick. He only played over 20 minutes in a game 5 times this year. Just ridiculous. There's not even a large enough sample size to gauge if he's ready for legitimate playing time. I loved that they moved him to the G League and he hung almost 50pts in his first game. Rockets are just a weird team that I just don't get.

I actually agree they need to give Reed minutes. He should be their backup point allowed to grow playing 20 minutes a game and FVV isn't so good he demands 30 a night either. But even if FVV is the backup, that's a good situation for them in win now mode


The Warriors situation in large is due to Kerr not understanding how to develop a star because he just inherited them. He doesn't even have his assistant do the right work with them, he wants youngsters to fit that specific system rather than learning how to truly be on the ball. When they break out of the system he turns on them.

The Rockets were wise to trade their pick and get rid of 2 perimeter players, that should allow them to give bigger roles to guys. Green is useless without the ball offensively... Thompson can't shoot and needed the ball too... So that likely got in Reed's way

[mjkvol]

teams just love bailing out the Celtics

And now Porzingas is being linked to the Spurs. If they give #2 to the Celtics in any kind of deal I'll shoot myself.

[Covi_Marsh]

teams just love bailing out the Celtics

And now Porzingas is being linked to the Spurs. If they give #2 to the Celtics in any kind of deal I'll shoot myself.

Lol Porzingis won’t cost that much. Doubt they even get a first. He’s expiring damaged good. They’d have to prolly include Harrison Barnes to make it match.

[Covi_Marsh]

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[the_process]

Let's review:

-2020 draft: killed it.
-Traded Josh Richardson and some dude for Seth Curry. Bad.
-Traded Horford, Micic, Maledon, and that 26 1st still owed to OKC for Danny Green and some salary filler. Very bad.
-Traded Tony Bradley and that aforementioned salary filler for some dude and George Hill. Bad.
-HUGE flub on the 2021 draft.
-Ben Simmons holdout.
-Sent Simmons and dudes and two 1sts to BKN to chase his white whale in James Harden. Good trade, but still flubbed it, because better options were available.
-Traded their 2022 1st for DeAnthony Melton. Not great.
-2023 1st gone in Simmons trade.
-Traded Thybulle to POR for Jalen McDaniels (who they didn't resign) and a 2nd. That's fine.
-Harden holdout. That's two, if you're counting.
-Traded Harden and a dude and dumped PJ Tucker bad contract to the Clippers for two 1sts, a swap, and a handful of expirings including the Process own Robert Covington and a guy who won a play-in game single handedly in Nic Batum. Absolutely made lemonade out of lemons there.
-24 deadline day: traded House and a 2nd for a 2nd, traded Morris and Korkmaz for Buddy Hield (who forgot how to shoot in his half season here), traded Springer for a 2nd, traded Pat Bev for Cam Payne and a 2nd. All in all, a positive day.
-Appears to have nailed the 2024 draft, surprisingly.
-Did Hield a favor and S&Td him to GSW. Got a 2nd out of it. Bueno. 1st ever NBA 6 team trade. Historic.
-Traded Caleb Martin to DAL for Grimes and a 2nd. That was a great job.
-Salary dumped KJM to avoid the tax.
-Traded a 2026 1st (probably OKCs) to WSH with Reggie Jackson for Jared Butler and four 2nds. Solid idea to try and increase the asset base.

More ups than downs but pretty underwhelming? That about sum it up?

[Mik317]

Seth Curry was good for us. Meltons was good for us

wtf are you on?