Pacers trade rumors & speculation thread

[Wizop]

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[Pacers Forever]

I know it is a tough decision. But I think given the circumstances, it makes a lot of sense to try to move on from Turner, Siakam, and McConnell and give more playing time to the youth. Start Mathurin. Find a backup PG that's closer to Haliburton's age.

Thats what my brain says to do but not my heart.

I usually agree with a lot that you bring. I really don’t like the thought of having to break up the core of this team. I can’t ever see Siakam moved unless he requests it. He’s the only player on our squad whom I think is a perennial all league player. Tyrese is on the rise towards that stardom and could be a savy veteran like Siakam in a couple more seasons with continued development of his game.

I really can’t move on from TJ because finding a player who can go that hard on defense and offense with his experience (at his age and salary) is hard to come by.

Myles I can move on from only if the Pacers have a better plan in place for the 5 slot and the move also strengthens the team. Otherwise I would hope to re-sign Myles to a team friendly long term deal. A few seasons back the Pacers gave Myles some extra $$$$ when they needed to spend more on the roster.

[GreatBuchinsky]

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That’s a pretty good watch. I agree the team is willing to go into the tax with the team as a contender but really no reason to start the clock on the repeater tax this year. Goal needs to be to get the team in the best spot possible when Hali is back (hopefully) 100%. Realistically that’s going to be sometime in the 26-27 season. I really lean trying to remain a playoff team while also giving extensive look at Mathurin as a starter next to Nembhard, Jarace having a major role and giving Furphy real time. There is a chance Hali never fully recovers and if that unfortunate case happens we have to have a backup plan.

I like Myles and hope we can keep him at a reasonable price. Finding a 5 who fits the way he does with Hali and Siakam will be pretty hard to find. If it costs us Obi that is a no brainer.

[JMaster5K]

I know it is a tough decision. But I think given the circumstances, it makes a lot of sense to try to move on from Turner, Siakam, and McConnell and give more playing time to the youth. Start Mathurin. Find a backup PG that's closer to Haliburton's age.

Thats what my brain says to do but not my heart.

I usually agree with a lot that you bring. I really don’t like the thought of having to break up the core of this team. I can’t ever see Siakam moved unless he requests it. He’s the only player on our squad whom I think is a perennial all league player. Tyrese is on the rise towards that stardom and could be a savy veteran like Siakam in a couple more seasons with continued development of his game.

I really can’t move on from TJ because finding a player who can go that hard on defense and offense with his experience (at his age and salary) is hard to come by.

Myles I can move on from only if the Pacers have a better plan in place for the 5 slot and the move also strengthens the team. Otherwise I would hope to re-sign Myles to a team friendly long term deal. A few seasons back the Pacers gave Myles some extra $$$$ when they needed to spend more on the roster.

IMO,.. I can't believe we are ready to break this up? Will we have to play differently without Tyrese,... oh yeah. But,... this team still has a bunch of very talented players that fit well together & have the trust & teamwork to be competitive. I have to believe the coaches will figure it out & the players will still outperform expectations because of their teamwork.

TJ,... TJ came to the Pacers because he wanted to be here,... and his connection with the team,... the coaching staff,... and the city has only grown deeper.... I can't see him wanting to leave, no matter the consequences.

Same holds true for Myles,... he's said, 'This is home'. If we pay him at a level that makes him happy & is still good business for the team,... I can't see him wanting to leave? He's played on far worse Pacers teams than the one we still have for next year.... (sad, but true).

I agree with you on Pascal,... we should ask him,... but again, I have to believe that he would want to stay? He turned 30 this last year,... so when Tyrese returns, he will be 32 in that season? He should still have enough in the tank to be a difference maker.

Yeah,... being a Pacers fan,... what happened with Tyrese is a heart-breaking, gut-punch. Everything this year was built around him,... and his ability to be a true floor general. Next year,... it won't be. It will be interesting to see how this team adapts? What next season looks like? How 25-26 sets us up for his return, fully recovered, in 26-27?.....

[Wizop]

we usually think contracts are level and a 4 year 120mm contract would be 30mm a year, but with 8% raises you can start at 26.7 and still total 120. that difference could matter.

[JMaster5K]

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That’s a pretty good watch. I agree the team is willing to go into the tax with the team as a contender but really no reason to start the clock on the repeater tax this year. Goal needs to be to get the team in the best spot possible when Hali is back (hopefully) 100%. Realistically that’s going to be sometime in the 26-27 season. I really lean trying to remain a playoff team while also giving extensive look at Mathurin as a starter next to Nembhard, Jarace having a major role and giving Furphy real time. There is a chance Hali never fully recovers and if that unfortunate case happens we have to have a backup plan.

I like Myles and hope we can keep him at a reasonable price. Finding a 5 who fits the way he does with Hali and Siakam will be pretty hard to find. If it costs us Obi that is a no brainer.

+100

I think it also reinforces the conversations we have collectively been having in this forum,.... nothing Sam or Bryce said was new to this group. We've been talking about exactly the same points for this off season. It was really interesting to hear their takes on those discussions, and their post-playoffs opinions of the Pacers. How many relatively big time basketball writers, analysts, podcasters have commented on the Pacers,.. 'I just love this team!'.... this year? I keep hearing that comment, and seeing it in so many different places.

[JMaster5K]

we usually think contracts are level and a 4 year 120mm contract would be 30mm a year, but with 8% raises you can start at 26.7 and still total 120. that difference could matter.

Yup,... put that in another post as well,.... 26,785,715. That difference is a min contract to fill out the roster,... so very much matters.

[basketballwacko2]

Considering the Pacers issues now with TH down from the Achilles injury. What do they do? I don't want to put this in the T&T so I'll put it here.

Pacers send Pascal Siakam to Chicago for Vucevic and Pat Williams (bad contract) #12 in the 2025 draft. The Portland pick (15-30) 2026 and a bulls pick (5-30) 2028. The Portland pick is top 14 protected and could become a 2nd in 2028 if not conveyed by then.

With the 12th pick I like Thomas Sorber 6-10, 265 Forward Center or Noa Essengue 6-10, 200 Small Forward/Power Forward.

I'd like to then trade Toppin to the Nets for #36 and space and resign Turner then at the deadline trade Vucevic for some additional assets although I don't think he'll bring much.

[basketballwacko2]

But really I don't think anything will happen tonight because the team has not had the time to work through the permutations of the up coming season without Tyrese.

[Wizop]

But really I don't think anything will happen tonight because the team has not had the time to work through the permutations of the up coming season without Tyrese.

they've had lots of time to game plan a Turner contract. they traded out of tonight knowing that the salary of a FRP would've been big trouble. they've also been thinking about Mathurin's next contract for a long time.

[boomershadow]

I've been a long time Turner supporter, but based on their play in the playoffs. If I had to only keep one, it would be Obi Toppin.

[Wizop]

I've been a long time Turner supporter, but based on their play in the playoffs. If I had to only keep one, it would be Obi Toppin.

I can make a case for moving Nesmith to keep Mathurin and Turner.

Also, I think treating a 10 year Pacer with respect is an important part of building team chemistry.

[Scoot McGroot]

I've been a long time Turner supporter, but based on their play in the playoffs. If I had to only keep one, it would be Obi Toppin.

I can make a case for moving Nesmith to keep Mathurin and Turner.

I don't think I can. To me, you clearly move Mathurin out of those 3? Nesmith just showed he can be one of the most impactful 3 and D type SG/SF players in the league this past playoffs. The team seemed to take off this year when he and Nembhard returned to health. I'd like to keep all 3 (all 4 if you include Obi), but I value Nesmith and then Turner solidly over Mathurin, and then Obi.

Also, I think treating a 10 year Pacer with respect is an important part of building team chemistry.

Sure. But also, you just aren't likely to be able to keep Nesmith/Mathurin and somehow then backfill the C spot if you let Turner walk.

Plus, Brooklyn has been spending some of their free agency cap space in eating salary for picks, and there's just not a ton of cash out there. Myles may be a little more affordable than we thought?

[Wizop]

The Pacers are trading their a future second-round pick + cash considerations to the San Antonio Spurs for the 38th pick in tomorrow's draft, per league source.

Tankathon has the Chinese center at 38.

[Scoot McGroot]

Huh, this starts to look a lot like when Indy traded up to 31, and then sent that with Aaron Holiday to get the pick that they took Isaiah Jackson at…

Also, the Pacers are sending cash, so they’re now hard capped at the 2nd apron for next season.

[Wizop]

Huh, this starts to look a lot like when Indy traded up to 31, and then sent that with Aaron Holiday to get the pick that they took Isaiah Jackson at…

Also, the Pacers are sending cash, so they’re now hard capped at the 2nd apron for next season.

Mathurin and 38 for a lottery pick?

Don't we have into next season to avoid apron?

[Scoot McGroot]

Huh, this starts to look a lot like when Indy traded up to 31, and then sent that with Aaron Holiday to get the pick that they took Isaiah Jackson at…

Also, the Pacers are sending cash, so they’re now hard capped at the 2nd apron for next season.

Mathurin and 38 for a lottery pick?

Don’t know if that gets lotto, but feels like it’d take that kind of attempt at value.

Don't we have into next season to avoid apron?

Nope! The window for transactions triggering the hard caps starts “the day after the last day of the regular season”, and runs through the following season. As in, if you make a trade at the draft that triggers the hard caps, that hard cap will be in place for both the remainder of that season (a couple days until July 1), but also the following season.

[Wizop]

Oh, we've pushed this season's payroll into taxland.

[Pacers Forever]

Has anyone seen that we traded a future second round pick plus cash for the Spurs #38 pick ??

[Pacers Forever]

Has anyone seen that we traded a future second round pick plus cash for the Spurs #38 pick ??

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