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MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #661 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:12 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:WTF is Brooklyn gonna do with 4 late 1sts?

lol and they have a lottery pick

soxperry · Post #662 » by **soxperry** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:17 pm

so the Nets take on about 15.5M for each of the next three seasons and pick up a 22nd overall to do so. Interesting. I would have thought that would cost more tbh. Then again, they are really the only team that could accommodate that. Makes me angry to think that they could have easily taken Khris off our hands but probably didn't want to help the GIannis team keep Giannis. I'll never believe that he would actually go there.

Matches Malone · Post #663 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:19 pm

Nets could use 8 and some of those late 1sts to move up for Ace Baily if the rumors of their infatuation with one another are to be true.

jakecronus8 · Post #664 » by **jakecronus8** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:20 pm

From a Bucks angle, if you're worried about Brooklyn as a suitor for guys like KPJ/Trent/Bobby this does eliminate some cap for them.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #665 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:20 pm

Some dark fan fiction. Nets end up trading 3-4 of these picks for future firsts.
1.Tank next year
2. Sign Luka
3. Trade for Giannis (Basically whoever they pick this year at 6, next year's top 10, and 3 more future picks)
4. Profit

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #666 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:23 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:From a Bucks angle, if you're worried about Brooklyn as a suitor for guys like KPJ/Trent/Bobby this does eliminate some cap for them.

Were we worried about Brooklyn wasting their cap space on those guys? I would imagine they would rather just absorb a contract or 2 for the next year. They are a 26-win team whose best returning player is Nick Claxton. Why give a guy like Trent or Bobby a mult-year deal?

soxperry · Post #667 » by **soxperry** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:30 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:From a Bucks angle, if you're worried about Brooklyn as a suitor for guys like KPJ/Trent/Bobby this does eliminate some cap for them.

Were we worried about Brooklyn wasting their cap space on those guys? I would imagine they would rather just absorb a contract or 2 for the next year. They are a 26-win team whose best returning player is Nick Claxton. Why give a guy like Trent or Bobby a mult-year deal?

it was mostly KPJ. I dont think they were ever suitors for proven vets with ceilings that have been hit already.

soxperry · Post #668 » by **soxperry** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:35 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:From a Bucks angle, if you're worried about Brooklyn as a suitor for guys like KPJ/Trent/Bobby this does eliminate some cap for them.

i wish i fully understood all the rules. they have some significant cap holds and will probably renounce many of them but they probably want to re sign Cam Thomas and trade him later. it's just really foggy how much below the cap they actually are BUT taking on 15M does make it a little tougher for them to lure KPJ.

CJTURT · Post #669 » by **CJTURT** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:35 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:WTF is Brooklyn gonna do with 4 late 1sts?

WTF would we do with any of those picks. We can’t develop any of them. And we have a crappy old pubic head coach Who won’t play young players.

buckboy · Post #670 » by **buckboy** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:37 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Some dark fan fiction. Nets end up trading 3-4 of these picks for future firsts.
1.Tank next year
2. Sign Luka
3. Trade for Giannis (Basically whoever they pick this year at 6, next year's top 10, and 3 more future picks)
4. Profit

Sounds about right as it has an approximately zero percent chance of happening.

Bernman · Post #671 » by **Bernman** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:43 pm

I don't get what the teams facilitating trades for Boston get out of this. In this 1, why is Brooklyn burning a good chunk of their cap space already for another low 1st while taking on Mann's questionable, long contract? I was mostly kidding about the Giannis ammo thing, but they're delusional.

soxperry · Post #672 » by **soxperry** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:43 pm

I bet Nets will try to buy a future unprotected first from a team like the Bucks. That or try to move up of course.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #673 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:47 pm

LittleRooster wrote:Did the Celtics give Jrue a heads up?

Holiday was also expected to be a casualty of second apron concerns, so he had to know the possibility was very real that he’d be dealt away from Boston, a place he’d developed ties with both the team and the community.

According to one source close to the situation, Holiday is “pissed” he’s going to Portland.

“Now, if he winds up staying there, I’m sure he’ll be the professional he’s always been and make a positive contribution,” said the source. “But he’s not happy with this deal. I’ll be surprised if Portland doesn’t move him on if they can, because right now he does not want to go there.

https://heavy.com/sports/nba/boston-celtics/celtics-trade-up-2025-nba-draft/

Like i get these guys are human, but you are making 9-figures. It kind of comes with the contract. No one shed a tear when we shipped off Grayson Allen, nor did we hear his wife diss the Bucks for not giving them a heads up.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #674 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:50 pm

Bernman wrote:I don't get what the teams facilitating trades for Boston get out of this. In this 1, why is Brooklyn burning a good chunk of their cap space already for another low 1st while taking on Mann's questionable, long contract? I was mostly kidding about the Giannis ammo thing, but they're delusional.

We will see what they do with it this offseason, but I could see them trading #22 for a future first that will help them land a player. It doesnt really make a difference to them if the hawks get slightly better and the celtics avoid the tax. At the end of the day, they got a solid pick without really giving any of value up.

Bernman · Post #675 » by **Bernman** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:55 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Bernman wrote:I don't get what the teams facilitating trades for Boston get out of this. In this 1, why is Brooklyn burning a good chunk of their cap space already for another low 1st while taking on Mann's questionable, long contract? I was mostly kidding about the Giannis ammo thing, but they're delusional.

We will see what they do with it this offseason, but I could see them trading #22 for a future first that will help them land a player. It doesnt really make a difference to them if the hawks get slightly better and the celtics avoid the tax. At the end of the day, they got a solid pick without really giving any of value up.

Why not hold onto the space until the end of FA to see what's out there, then if nothing interesting is, help teams dodge the apron/tax for greater assets than a late 1st.

Being the only team with real cap space was serious leverage. They could have taken on big, temporary $, to provide relief, while getting good players/prospects/multiple 1sts. Instead they pull the trigger early on a late 1st to take on a 3-yr contract at sizable $.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #676 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:57 pm

Bernman wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Bernman wrote:I don't get what the teams facilitating trades for Boston get out of this. In this 1, why is Brooklyn burning a good chunk of their cap space already for another low 1st while taking on Mann's questionable, long contract? I was mostly kidding about the Giannis ammo thing, but they're delusional.

We will see what they do with it this offseason, but I could see them trading #22 for a future first that will help them land a player. It doesnt really make a difference to them if the hawks get slightly better and the celtics avoid the tax. At the end of the day, they got a solid pick without really giving any of value up.

Why not hold onto the space until the end of FA to see what's out there, then if nothing interesting is, help teams dodge the apron/tax for greater assets than a late 1st.

Being the only team with real cap space was serious leverage. They could have taken on big, temporary $, to provide relief, while getting good players/prospects/multiple 1sts. Instead they pull the trigger early on a late 1st to take on a 3-yr contract at sizable $.

Don't they still have like $75m in cap room if they want it?

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #677 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:47 am

man if we emptied their cupboard thats where its at for us no doubt. theres 10 picks there easy. im 100% committed to giannis if he is to us.....but if you had to move him you could send him out there with blue sky coming back and one hell of a young team day one. hope 1-2 pop. maybe find the guy in the league you want to build around and go get him. even give em on our roster who giannis wanted come along? wed also be the only team with real cap space the next couple years if we did it right. between our own picks siting out there and what we could bring in maybe 12 picks the next 6 years? thats something at least.

Post #678 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:08 am

buckboy wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Some dark fan fiction. Nets end up trading 3-4 of these picks for future firsts.
1.Tank next year
2. Sign Luka
3. Trade for Giannis (Basically whoever they pick this year at 6, next year's top 10, and 3 more future picks)
4. Profit

Sounds about right as it has an approximately zero percent chance of happening.

Houston is the only other one I'm at least a little concerned about. Houston getting Durant without giving up any of their real assets is a little curious.

BroncoBuck · Post #679 » by **BroncoBuck** » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:19 am

CJTURT wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:WTF is Brooklyn gonna do with 4 late 1sts?

WTF would we do with any of those picks. We can’t develop any of them. And we have a crappy old pubic head coach Who won’t play young players.

I know this keeps being thrown out there, but AJ Green got a ton of minutes last year. Ryan Rollins played a ton for a guy who started the season as a 2 way contract.

machu46 · Post #680 » by **machu46** » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:29 am

ReasonablySober wrote:

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Man. Maybe the Wizards will be able to do something with the cap space next offseason but Poole was just about the only player on the team that was fun to watch. Hopefully some of their young guys make a leap because otherwise this might be a new low for the franchise in terms of depression-inducing.

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