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The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3

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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1441 » by Sunsdeuce » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:20 am

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Frank Lee wrote:Jeezus… it’s come to wanting Wee’Andre back .. oh brother


Well we haven't won a playoff game since he left. The minute we traded him it was all downhill.

Facts. Ayton had his faults but we still haven’t had a center better than him since nor before him. He was still a solid 15-10 guy. He was key reason why we went to the finals. Fans Took him for granted and villainized him.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1442 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:20 am

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10th pick for the 15th and 24th picks.

I'd move down 15 and a future first. I wouldn't put all my eggs into this one draft basket. Especially next year when we probably won't have a good pick.




I wouldn't do that trade. Thunder wanting to do that suggest there's a diamond in the rough to fall outside top 5... just like Jalen Williams did for them.

Suns should identify this player that Thunder wants and draft him.

lol that's not happening.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1443 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:40 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/YMnQHTOqYL

Nico at it again low balling Kyrie :lol:
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1444 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:43 am

TeamTragic wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/YMnQHTOqYL

Nico at it again low balling Kyrie :lol:


Do they need a great 2G that fits the timeline with AD? :)
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1445 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:44 am

BobbieL wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/YMnQHTOqYL

Nico at it again low balling Kyrie :lol:


Do they need a great 2G that fits the timeline with AD? :)


Does he play defense? :lol:
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1446 » by Fo-Real » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:47 am

TeamTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/YMnQHTOqYL

Nico at it again low balling Kyrie :lol:


Do they need a great 2G that fits the timeline with AD? :)


Does he play defense? :lol:


He plays defense against getting traded cause he has a clause! :x :lol:
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1447 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:48 am

Fo-Real wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Do they need a great 2G that fits the timeline with AD? :)


Does he play defense? :lol:


He plays defense against getting traded cause he has a clause! :x :lol:


What about the weather? :lol:
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1448 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:54 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
thamadkant wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:I'd move down 15 and a future first. I wouldn't put all my eggs into this one draft basket. Especially next year when we probably won't have a good pick.




I wouldn't do that trade. Thunder wanting to do that suggest there's a diamond in the rough to fall outside top 5... just like Jalen Williams did for them.

Suns should identify this player that Thunder wants and draft him.

lol that's not happening.


Ishbia and the Suns aren’t Presti
Get more picks
Load up on young talent

Or if you get an extra pick - add it to Beal and still have pick 15. Accumulate picks
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1449 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:55 am

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Well we haven't won a playoff game since he left. The minute we traded him it was all downhill.


Turns out having an overpaid center is far better than having an underpaid one in Nick Richards thinking he was going to do all the defensive things that Ayton was actually good at.

Plus, the board needs their punching bag too, right?

Richards at $5m and doing about 80% of DA's work is pretty good value




Lots of centers can put up 10/10. Lobs and then usually being one of the tallest players on court gets you rebound. But Richards stats are deceiving because he absolutely has no impact both ends.

So yes sure, his 5M a year is low cost for his numbers but Suns are not going anywhere with him as center.

There are centers out there with less rebounds or less points and are much better than Nick Richards.

Suns should really try to get someone like Okongwu from Hawks or even Jalen Smith back from Bulls, as he had no fear challenging shots, he had energy and can stretch the floor.
I get it, that the Suns don't want a high value big man as long as they get rebounds.... but sadly, to be a good team, your big man needs to be reliable to defend perimeter and inside even if it doesn't lead to direct statistics. Ayton provided those things and Ayton also dominated Richards on their matchups just to show the talent gap between the two.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1450 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:55 am

TeamTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/YMnQHTOqYL

Nico at it again low balling Kyrie :lol:


Do they need a great 2G that fits the timeline with AD? :)


Does he play defense? :lol:


Whatever it takes :)

Klay and Kyrie for ONeale and Beal

Come on Nico :)

Granted isn’t Kyrie out half the year
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1451 » by Frank Lee » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:59 am

BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:Jeezus… it’s come to wanting Wee’Andre back .. oh brother


Well we haven't won a playoff game since he left. The minute we traded him it was all downhill.


Coincidence.... I think not.



And the minute we got him it was uphill. Pass on that aggravAyton.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1452 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:01 am

thamadkant wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
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Turns out having an overpaid center is far better than having an underpaid one in Nick Richards thinking he was going to do all the defensive things that Ayton was actually good at.

Plus, the board needs their punching bag too, right?

Richards at $5m and doing about 80% of DA's work is pretty good value




Lots of centers can put up 10/10. Lobs and then usually being one of the tallest players on court gets you rebound. But Richards stats are deceiving because he absolutely has no impact both ends.

So yes sure, his 5M a year is low cost for his numbers but Suns are not going anywhere with him as center.

There are centers out there with less rebounds or less points and are much better than Nick Richards.

Suns should really try to get someone like Okongwu from Hawks or even Jalen Smith back from Bulls, as he had no fear challenging shots, he had energy and can stretch the floor.
I get it, that the Suns don't want a high value big man as long as they get rebounds.... but sadly, to be a good team, your big man needs to be reliable to defend perimeter and inside even if it doesn't lead to direct statistics. Ayton provided those things and Ayton also dominated Richards on their matchups just to show the talent gap between the two.

I mean, no one is proclaiming him the center of the future or anything.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1453 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:07 am

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/u3m4JIOjjp

Apparently Jrue not happy with the trade. Whoever was saying the Blazers are trying to make the playoffs :lol:
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1454 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:12 am

TeamTragic wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/u3m4JIOjjp

Apparently Jrue not happy with the trade. Whoever was saying the Blazers are trying to make the playoffs :lol:


"According to one source, "I’ll be surprised if Portland doesn’t move him...because he does not want to go there"

That makes even less sense now....like 1. how would you not know he'd be pissed off, 2. how do you now move him after you gave up 2 2nds to get him.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1455 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:19 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/u3m4JIOjjp

Apparently Jrue not happy with the trade. Whoever was saying the Blazers are trying to make the playoffs :lol:


"According to one source, "I’ll be surprised if Portland doesn’t move him...because he does not want to go there"

That makes even less sense now....like 1. how would you not know he'd be pissed off, 2. how do you now move him after you gave up 2 2nds to get him.



Beal and O’Neal for Grant and Jrue

Who says No?

If Beal approves
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1456 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:25 am

BobbieL wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/u3m4JIOjjp

Apparently Jrue not happy with the trade. Whoever was saying the Blazers are trying to make the playoffs :lol:


"According to one source, "I’ll be surprised if Portland doesn’t move him...because he does not want to go there"

That makes even less sense now....like 1. how would you not know he'd be pissed off, 2. how do you now move him after you gave up 2 2nds to get him.



Beal and O’Neal for Grant and Jrue

Who says No?

If Beal approves

Honestly, Ishbia and maybe me as well.

It adds another year at $73m to our books in 2027 as I'm fully expecting both guys to pick up their final year options. Beal expires end of next season and ONeal is only in the book for another year at $11.6m, very tradeable imo
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1457 » by TeamTragic » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:30 am

Suns are going to be a younger more athletic team.

Jrue/CamJo don't really fit that mold.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1458 » by dremill24 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:51 am

A bad blockbuster trade idea:

Royce O'Neale to ATL for Mo Gueye.

Hawks get a reasonably priced wing who can help on both ends. Suns shave almost $8mil immediately and get under 2nd apron (assuming they ditch Martin/Micic). Also get a look at an athletic PF who plays with energy and is still only 22. Maybe you could even snag a 2nd from ATL
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1459 » by RaisingArizona » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:08 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:The easiest, smartest and most logical thing to do to rebuild and become competitive faster is to trade Booker.

Banging my head on the table when the answer is right in front of Ishbia’s stupid Michigan apparel he has laying around his mansion. This isn’t rocket science. Trade Booker.

I would one day like to agree with you on one thing. This isn't it.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 3 

Post#1460 » by dcoop » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:18 am

Everyone here is so angry.

Think they are better and smarter than our FO.

Hate Gambo and others who just try to give insight and share things they heard.

So many people here think they are so smart and entitled. Can we just get back to being Suns fan. If you can’t handle that there are other teams you can follow.

The disrespect is crazy.

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