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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#841 » by vincecarter4pres » Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:29 pm

I think I’d super good if we trade for the #2 using the 8, and two future picks as long as we keep our ‘26. Even throw in Cam J.

Then trade something like 26 and 27 with Clax for the 9 or 10.

Windup with 2, 9 or 10 and 19.

Come out of the draft with something along the lines of Dylan Harper; one of Essengue, Beringer, Assa Newell, CMB, Sorber, etc.; then Will Riley or Coward.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#842 » by Decipher » Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:53 pm

Another first rounder incoming

We must be trying to move up

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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#843 » by Stone » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:32 pm

What are we giving up in this trade?
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#844 » by jeff1624 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:33 pm

Yeah this team is definitely moving up. I can see the team ending up with Ace Bailey and another top 10 pick like Maluach or Fears.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#845 » by jeff1624 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:34 pm

Stone wrote:What are we giving up in this trade?



Maybe one of the 2nd round picks headed to Atl/Bos.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#846 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:00 am

jeff1624 wrote:
Stone wrote:What are we giving up in this trade?



Maybe one of the 2nd round picks headed to Atl/Bos.

Cap space. Only cap space. :wizard:
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#847 » by NetsJets » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:08 am

The question I have is who is willing to move down in order for the Nets to move up? I guess we’ll see.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#848 » by NetsJets » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:15 am

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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#849 » by NetSymptom » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:45 am

I could very well be wrong, but I feel like Marks doesn’t make this move unless he already has some solid deals in place already.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#850 » by Karate Diop » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:57 am

NetSymptom wrote:I could very well be wrong, but I feel like Marks doesn’t make this move unless he already has some solid deals in place already.


Not sure if there's something else lined up, but this is how cap space should be used when you're early in a rebuild, take on an unwanted deal and get compensated for it. Best part here is that there's probably another team that has a use for Mann so he could be a decent trade chip later.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#851 » by Keith Van Horn » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:11 am

did we just get the 22nd pick and terrance mann for...... nothing?

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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#852 » by NetSymptom » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:21 am

Karate Diop wrote:
NetSymptom wrote:I could very well be wrong, but I feel like Marks doesn’t make this move unless he already has some solid deals in place already.


Not sure if there's something else lined up, but this is how cap space should be used when you're early in a rebuild, take on an unwanted deal and get compensated for it. Best part here is that there's probably another team that has a use for Mann so he could be a decent trade chip later.


No disagreement in how the space is being utilized. Just expressing that there is some “risk” for a lack of a better term in being pigeonholed into having to take 5+ rookies

So I hope/imagine Marks has something in play, or at least something he feels confident in
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#853 » by Eatgreenz » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:32 am

Got more ammo for dylan harper
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Post#854 » by NetSymptom » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:35 am

Apparently Mann deleted his tweet about being traded to Brooklyn…

Wonder if he got some word that this is being expanded and he’s getting rerouted elsewhere

I need to trade a future 2nd for some extra tinfoil for tbe next 24 hours
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#855 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:58 am

NetSymptom wrote:Apparently Mann deleted his tweet about being traded to Brooklyn…

Wonder if he got some word that this is being expanded and he’s getting rerouted elsewhere

I need to trade a future 2nd for some extra tinfoil for tbe next 24 hours


ok here's my tinfoil hat, not sure on any of the CBA legalities in terms of expanding it into the KD trade but i think it could all go through separately if need be:

Beal + #10
for
Mann, Claxton, and #19 or #22.

Mann has $47m left @ 15.5m per.
Claxton has $68m left @ 23m per.
= 115m total and $40m for 2025-206.

beal has $110m left @55m per, which could be less if he's bought out, but not bought out saves PHO $15m right away while adding a starting center and a rotation player.

i think nets may prefer to have him as a tradable expiring next year (close call but with his NTC it's may need to be a buyout to get him to accept the trade, knowing he can sign wherever else he wants).

so all in for nets this is basically a money swap plus claxton to move up 9 spots.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#856 » by Decipher » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:48 am

Netaman wrote:
NetSymptom wrote:Apparently Mann deleted his tweet about being traded to Brooklyn…

Wonder if he got some word that this is being expanded and he’s getting rerouted elsewhere

I need to trade a future 2nd for some extra tinfoil for tbe next 24 hours


ok here's my tinfoil hat, not sure on any of the CBA legalities in terms of expanding it into the KD trade but i think it could all go through separately if need be:

Beal + #10
for
Mann, Claxton, and #19 or #22.

Mann has $47m left @ 15.5m per.
Claxton has $68m left @ 23m per.
= 115m total and $40m for 2025-206.

beal has $110m left @55m per, which could be less if he's bought out, but not bought out saves PHO $15m right away while adding a starting center and a rotation player.

i think nets may prefer to have him as a tradable expiring next year (close call but with his NTC it's may need to be a buyout to get him to accept the trade, knowing he can sign wherever else he wants).

so all in for nets this is basically a money swap plus claxton to move up 9 spots.


Beal is one of my least favourite players in the league

Tanking sucks

Tanking with Beal would be truly awful

Anyway, he’s got a NTC
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Re: Official ‘[emoji[emoji638][emoji639][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji637]]][emoji[ 

Post#857 » by Netaman » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:21 am

Decipher wrote:
Netaman wrote:
NetSymptom wrote:Apparently Mann deleted his tweet about being traded to Brooklyn…

Wonder if he got some word that this is being expanded and he’s getting rerouted elsewhere

I need to trade a future [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]nd for some extra tinfoil for tbe next [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]] hours


ok here's my tinfoil hat, not sure on any of the CBA legalities in terms of expanding it into the KD trade but i think it could all go through separately if need be:

Beal + #[emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]
for
Mann, Claxton, and #[emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]]] or #[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]].

Mann has $[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]]m left @ [emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]].[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]m per.
Claxton has $[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]]]]m left @ [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]m per.
= [emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]m total and $[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]m for [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]-[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]]].

beal has $[emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]m left @[emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]m per, which could be less if he's bought out, but not bought out saves PHO $[emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]m right away while adding a starting center and a rotation player.

i think nets may prefer to have him as a tradable expiring next year (close call but with his NTC it's may need to be a buyout to get him to accept the trade, knowing he can sign wherever else he wants).

so all in for nets this is basically a money swap plus claxton to move up [emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]]]]] spots.


Beal is one of my least favourite players in the league

Tanking sucks

Tanking with Beal would be truly awful

Anyway, he’s got a NTC

Yeah I think only way Beal waives is if he’s accepting a buyout and signing somewhere decent for mle.


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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#858 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:18 am

Something like this?

Suns:
26
36
Paul George
Claxton

Philly:
Cam Johnson
22
‘28 frp returned

BK:
3
10
Beal
Grayson Allen

Still have the 19 and 27 to try and move up to like 13.

Maybe the 3 and a future Knicks pick or the ‘28 Suns swap for the 2?

Or 3 and 10 for 2?
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#859 » by NetSymptom » Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:09 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Something like this?

Suns:
26
36
Paul George
Claxton

Philly:
Cam Johnson
22
‘28 frp returned

BK:
3
10
Beal
Grayson Allen

Still have the 19 and 27 to try and move up to like 13.

Maybe the 3 and a future Knicks pick or the ‘28 Suns swap for the 2?

Or 3 and 10 for 2?


Are you buying out Beal in this scenario?
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#860 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:13 am

NetSymptom wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Something like this?

Suns:
26
36
Paul George
Claxton

Philly:
Cam Johnson
22
‘28 frp returned

BK:
3
10
Beal
Grayson Allen

Still have the 19 and 27 to try and move up to like 13.

Maybe the 3 and a future Knicks pick or the ‘28 Suns swap for the 2?

Or 3 and 10 for 2?


Are you buying out Beal in this scenario?

Try and expand it maybe with a 4th team Beal would be amendable to, getting back a big expiring and a smaller(MLE sized maybe) 2-3 year deal if at all possible, maybe attach a weaker future pick or a ton of 2nds?
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