2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[Marley2Hendrix]

Okay - just got back from a gym sesh, so 14 pages of content to catch-up on. I still regularly read this forum however many years later, and, frankly, I enjoy a rebuild/retooling more than high expectation season. In any case, while out, I did have the thought, particularly given this time of year - with all the salary shedding, can RealGM Celtics forum afford to bring back Caveman for some future picks? (also - what happened to him? Humblebum style flameout, possibly over Jaylen Brown?)

[165bows]

Brad Stevens is the man. Replaced aging Holiday with startable guard with comparable advanced stats and almost got us out of the 2nd appron by trading away Porzingis who was no help in the play-offs for just Niang.

We are not done by any means - now we finally have the flexibility to move players as a normal NBA team. Don't expect Simons or Niang to remain here for a full season.

I thought all the reports said we’re out of the second apron?

Is that correct if we want to fully fill out the roster?

I believe so at least if the last two guys are rookie and/or vet minimums. But in that ballpark though of course Niang et al are very fluid.

But I believe they could stand pat and be a hair below.

[BRUNiNHO91]

It’s like we were playing without Porzi anyway, we were winning without him every single time.

Depends on what Simons can bring, we’re currently only down Jrue (the idea of him from the cup run).

Al and Korny will be known later, so can’t really say.

We really aren’t much different than last season before injury. Yes, we’re down Tatum, this same team was good without him (won without Jrue too IIRC). Just stay good until he comes back a month or so before the playoffs.

I never said we’ll win or get to the chip, I’m just not counting us out and thinking will be trash. We haven’t done much of anything that tells me we are much worse. Much worse than the chip team? ABSOLUTELY, but that was what we were last season anyway.

I know what some of you are saying, I heard you, I’m just not listening right now.

I really want to know what has changed from last season, so far? What have we lost?

Well said.

Let me just add that the NBA has been unpredictable since 2019.

So if the Cs are in the playoffs in March and are still playing in early May, anything can happen.

The East is pretty horrendous. Hali out so the top contender is basically cooked. Dame out so Milwaukee ain’t got much. NYK and Orlando are the teams to beat right now. Maybe Atlanta if they get it right. Boston could catch up quick if they can strike on the KP TPE and maybe get a guy like Baylor to break out. It’s gloom and doom season, but things can turn around pretty quickly. Tbf it all depends on if they even want to be in a position where they want to bring JT back around March. If not they have to tank the season IMO. Got to bring in a top 6-7 pick at all costs.

[return2glory]

PF: Fleming
C: Kalkbrenner
SF: Brown
SG: Simons
PG: White

Let's go!

[Bill Lumbergh]

Still early, but Kornet won't be coming back at this point. Someone will overpay him. Loved the improvements Kornet back as a back up but he will struggle if he is asked to start.

According to reports earlier, Kornet is not about the money.

He loves it in Boston, so I think he stays for a reasonable contract.

If the reports are coming from Kornet or his agent, then maybe.
If Boston offers Kornet 2 years/$11 million and another team offers him 3 years/$34 million, we will see what Luke chooses.

He's never had a big contract. This will be his best chance ever to set his family up. He has to take the best money offered, imo.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

Okay - just got back from a gym sesh, so 14 pages of content to catch-up on. I still regularly read this forum however many years later, and, frankly, I enjoy a rebuild/retooling more than high expectation season. In any case, while out, I did have the thought, particularly given this time of year - with all the salary shedding, can RealGM Celtics forum afford to bring back Caveman for some future picks? (also - what happened to him? Humblebum style flameout, possibly over Jaylen Brown?)

Probably could drum him up on discord. I haven't been on there since I got a new phone, lazy. Maybe it's time.

[SparringPartner]

Unfortunately this CBA is set up to have natural ebb and flow between contender, fringe contender, and retool and rebuild. It's very hard to continue a run even with home grown or traded for players, and it's extremely hard to build your team via free agency.

You'll see that in this next cycle of "NBA eras" the rise and fall of teams like this will be far more rapid.

Hence why them not resetting, with Tatum out next year, will be a death blow. Should get into this year’s lottery and tank next year. Draft your franchise player or move the pick for JT’s next running mate. All while resetting the finances.

Image if Brown is the #1 guy next year and struggles. Poof to his current value. Sell high, buy low now

[165bows]

Okay - just got back from a gym sesh, so 14 pages of content to catch-up on. I still regularly read this forum however many years later, and, frankly, I enjoy a rebuild/retooling more than high expectation season. In any case, while out, I did have the thought, particularly given this time of year - with all the salary shedding, can RealGM Celtics forum afford to bring back Caveman for some future picks? (also - what happened to him? Humblebum style flameout, possibly over Jaylen Brown?)

I’ve been upping my brashness to help fill in

[BRUNiNHO91]

PF: Fleming
C: Kalkbrenner
SF: Brown
SG: Simons
PG: White

Let's go!

I think they start Pritchard next year. Dude kinda deserves it.

[Bill Lumbergh]

PF: Fleming
C: Kalkbrenner
SF: Brown
SG: Simons
PG: White

Let's go!

I'd be happy if it looks like this after tomorrow night.

[Bad-Thoma]

I can't believe the emotional breakdowns around here. What has Brad done to deserve this lack of faith?

In general, it's the same people that always complain non-stop, even right at the doorstep of a championship. Take this as an opportunity to make your ignore list better.

Could not have said it better myself. There's glass half full people, there's glass half empty people. Then there's about 50% of this board which are "the glass is half full of urine" people. About as much fun as a jalapeno enema but without the warmth.

[GrandTheftRondo]

It’s like we were playing without Porzi anyway, we were winning without him every single time.

Depends on what Simons can bring, we’re currently only down Jrue (the idea of him from the cup run).

Al and Korny will be known later, so can’t really say.

We really aren’t much different than last season before injury. Yes, we’re down Tatum, this same team was good without him (won without Jrue too IIRC). Just stay good until he comes back a month or so before the playoffs.

I never said we’ll win or get to the chip, I’m just not counting us out and thinking will be trash. We haven’t done much of anything that tells me we are much worse. Much worse than the chip team? ABSOLUTELY, but that was what we were last season anyway.

I know what some of you are saying, I heard you, I’m just not listening right now.

I really want to know what has changed from last season, so far? What have we lost?

I would rather us be trash than roll around with this mid as **** roster for years to come.

Who gives a **** about winning games next year

[Fierce1]

Tatum, Brown, White is a championship level core. They just need to find a dominant big man by the time Tatum gets back.


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No it isnt. That is not a champ level trio in this league...especially with Joe coaching.

A number of teams has a superior core

Immm not many. Yes there is a big question about how strong Tatum will come back but that is a fantastic core.

100%.

2018 the Cs went to the ECF with JB and rookie JT.

2020 the Cs got to the ECF again even when Kyrie and Al left.

2022 the Cs unexpectedly went to the Finals.

2024 the Cs won the ultimate prize.

What do all those Celtics team have in common?

Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown

[Shak_Celts]

Brad Stevens is the man. Replaced aging Holiday with startable guard with comparable advanced stats and almost got us out of the 2nd appron by trading away Porzingis who was no help in the play-offs for just Niang.

We are not done by any means - now we finally have the flexibility to move players as a normal NBA team. Don't expect Simons or Niang to remain here for a full season.

I thought all the reports said we’re out of the second apron?

Is that correct if we want to fully fill out the roster?

True. We still have some room, but not much. We can still finagle a few mills more if we want though.

[fallguy]

I'll go on the record here - I don't think all of JB, DW and JT will be on the roster on opening day 26-27.

[return2glory]

PF: Fleming
C: Kalkbrenner
SF: Brown
SG: Simons
PG: White

Let's go!

I think they start Pritchard next year. Dude kinda deserves it.

Pritchard will get starter minutes.

[SparringPartner]

Still early, but Kornet won't be coming back at this point. Someone will overpay him. Loved the improvements Kornet back as a back up but he will struggle if he is asked to start.

According to reports earlier, Kornet is not about the money.

He loves it in Boston, so I think he stays for a reasonable contract.

Love me some “Korn on the Lob,” but go get PAID Luke!!

[165bows]

It’s like we were playing without Porzi anyway, we were winning without him every single time.

Depends on what Simons can bring, we’re currently only down Jrue (the idea of him from the cup run).

Al and Korny will be known later, so can’t really say.

We really aren’t much different than last season before injury. Yes, we’re down Tatum, this same team was good without him (won without Jrue too IIRC). Just stay good until he comes back a month or so before the playoffs.

I never said we’ll win or get to the chip, I’m just not counting us out and thinking will be trash. We haven’t done much of anything that tells me we are much worse. Much worse than the chip team? ABSOLUTELY, but that was what we were last season anyway.

I know what some of you are saying, I heard you, I’m just not listening right now.

I really want to know what has changed from last season, so far? What have we lost?

Well said.

Let me just add that the NBA has been unpredictable since 2019.

So if the Cs are in the playoffs in March and are still playing in early May, anything can happen.

The East is pretty horrendous. Hali out so the top contender is basically cooked. Dame out so Milwaukee ain’t got much. NYK and Orlando are the teams to beat right now. Maybe Atlanta if they get it right. Boston could catch up quick if they can strike on the KP TPE and maybe get a guy like Baylor to break out. It’s gloom and doom season, but things can turn around pretty quickly. Tbf it all depends on if they even want to be in a position where they want to bring JT back around March. If not they have to tank the season IMO. Got to bring in a top 6-7 pick at all costs.

Indy has been a barely 50 win team two years in a row so it’s not like they were some first seed shoo in.

That said I agree Orlando and Atlanta should make gains with better health and their trades, Detroit will hang around. It’s fine in the middle east is just weak at the bottom and likely the top.

[Larry_Russell]

I find it very hard to believe that Simons and Niang was the best the team could do.


Thats about 5 steps back.

Team has no starting center, no good picks amd no tatum next season

Must be shooting for AJ.

They team had to shed salary in a big way. They couldn't trade for equal value.

At this point, Jrue looks done and Simons is the better player. KP is pure trash in the playoffs. So he got traded for trash because he had no value in the league. He will play really good in the regular season for the Hawks and crumble in the playoffs.

I agree with the needing to save money.

I fimd it hard to believe that thisnwas thr best option.

**** demar derizan is better than Simons.

[LarryBirdsFingr]

PF: Fleming
C: Kalkbrenner
SF: Brown
SG: Simons
PG: White

Let's go!

I think they start Pritchard next year. Dude kinda deserves it.

We at least need to see if it's a viable option. Perfect season to give it a try.