2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[165bows]

PF: Fleming
C: Kalkbrenner
SF: Brown
SG: Simons
PG: White

Let's go!

I think they start Pritchard next year. Dude kinda deserves it.

Pritchard will get starter minutes.

Agree if Simons is here I think he starts even if he only sticks around for half a season.

He misses lots of games so Pritch will still start a lot and also be the finisher more often than not.

[GrandTheftRondo]

It’s like we were playing without Porzi anyway, we were winning without him every single time.

Depends on what Simons can bring, we’re currently only down Jrue (the idea of him from the cup run).

Al and Korny will be known later, so can’t really say.

We really aren’t much different than last season before injury. Yes, we’re down Tatum, this same team was good without him (won without Jrue too IIRC). Just stay good until he comes back a month or so before the playoffs.

I never said we’ll win or get to the chip, I’m just not counting us out and thinking will be trash. We haven’t done much of anything that tells me we are much worse. Much worse than the chip team? ABSOLUTELY, but that was what we were last season anyway.

I know what some of you are saying, I heard you, I’m just not listening right now.

I really want to know what has changed from last season, so far? What have we lost?

I would rather us be trash than roll around with this mid as **** roster for years to come.

Who gives a **** about winning games next year

Even when the Celtics had nothing in 2014 and 2015, they never tanked.

That's just how Brad Stevens roll.

That’s malpractice then considering the asset position we now find ourselves in

[BRUNiNHO91]

So mext season is

White/pp
Simons/scheierman
Brown/hauser
Niang
Kornet/queta

That team misses playoffs

They most likely will find something better than Niang to play at the 4 lol I don’t think the new ownership group wants to come in first season and violate our feelings like that loool

[jfs1000d]

John Karalis‬

‪Writing my reaction to this trade now, but I have to say this because I THINK the sequencing of this trade is pretty smart. I could be wrong, but C's seem to be using Brooklyn's cap space to take Porzingis (creating a TPE for Boston), then BK sends him to Atlanta, and then Boston gets Niang via TPE.
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It'll go down as a 3-team deal, but I think this might actually be three separate trades properly sequenced to send out a $30 million guy and get $8 million back.

We have brilliant people. How on earth did they get these guys to do this. lol.


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[chrisab123]

They team had to shed salary in a big way. They couldn't trade for equal value.

At this point, Jrue looks done and Simons is the better player. KP is pure trash in the playoffs. So he got traded for trash because he had no value in the league. He will play really good in the regular season for the Hawks and crumble in the playoffs.

I agree with the needing to save money.

I fimd it hard to believe that thisnwas thr best option.

**** demar derizan is better than Simons.

Not true.

And DeRozan not a reliable 3pt shooter does not fit in with Joe-Ball.

Just look at what Brad got for Jrue and KP.

Both Simons and Niang shoot a lot of 3s.

I’m not a fan of Simons, however Derozen was a pretty piss poor player for this team. “Bang Bang Niang” can be a decent heater.

[celtxman]

I find it very hard to believe that Simons and Niang was the best the team could do.


Thats about 5 steps back.

Team has no starting center, no good picks amd no tatum next season

Must be shooting for AJ.

I've questioned giving up KP now. So has Jeff Goodman. So this can't be everything or Bill Chisholm wants us to be like Charlotte going forward.
I don't think this is the case. I think they are still going for championships But their big man situation is a train wreck and has to be addressed,

[meatball sub]

It seems like Brad isn’t done simply by how quickly they got under the 2nd apron. They didn’t have to do it ASAP if these were the only two moves they wanted to make.

They have to be moving one or two more guys now that salaries can be aggregated or else there wouldn’t have been any need to move quickly

[Bad-Thoma]

PF: Fleming
C: Kalkbrenner
SF: Brown
SG: Simons
PG: White

Let's go!

I think they start Pritchard next year. Dude kinda deserves it.

They may, I hope we don’t. He is fine as 6th man.

I think starting him, barring changes to the roster, is a great idea. He's on a great contract and if he can put up numbers he becomes a really nice trade asset if moves need to be made. I don't think the team will be as bad as some people seem to think but if they are and Payton doesn't do that great it's not like keeping him on that deal is a poor value either, he's underpaid and locked up until 27-28. He really played some solid defense as last season when on, I think it's time to let him loose.

[Zaschrona]

Anf Simons and Niang for Marcus Smart and Kelly Olynyk trade works salary wise.

Just saying.

[bfchs123]

I think Brad needs to make an honest assessment if having two supermax players as a starting base is compatible with building a championship roster. We know the two superstar method is no longer anywhere near enough (see LBJ/Luka, Durant/Booker, Jimmy/Steph, etc.) - you basically need 5 "championship" caliber starters plus 2-3 strong depth guys.

Our model worked because we were savvy building up the salary base and tradeable contracts over time. Now starting from scratch with two supermaxs and White already basically getting us to the tax, it will be very hard fit in 3-4 more championship rotation caliber players (and guys like this get paid $15-20M+). Not enough salaries to match and any big salaries immediately takes us over the cap and back into cap hell.

Therefore it may be the right time to trade Brown, reset with a cheap potential future #2 and probably grab another younger high caliber rotation piece + picks. I'm not sure I see the path back without doing a full reset.

[SparringPartner]

No it isnt. That is not a champ level trio in this league...especially with Joe coaching.

A number of teams has a superior core

Immm not many. Yes there is a big question about how strong Tatum will come back but that is a fantastic core.

100%.

2018 the Cs went to the ECF with JB and rookie JT.

2020 the Cs got to the ECF again even when Kyrie and Al left.

2022 the Cs unexpectedly went to the Finals.

2024 the Cs won the ultimate prize.

What do all those Celtics team have in common?

Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown

Funny how we see it differently

2020 - go down 0-2, lose
2022 - HC, up 2-1, lose 3 straight
2023 - HC, go down 0-3, lose
2024 - Brad’s masterclass, 3’s were falling
2025 - HC, go down 0-2, lose

What do all those Celtics teams have in common
Brad, JT, JB

[Fierce1]

Anf Simons and Niang for Marcus Smart and Kelly Olynyk trade works salary wise.

Just saying.

That will bring us back to 2016.

No way!

[SuperDeluxe]

It seems like Brad isn’t done simply by how quickly they got under the 2nd apron. They didn’t have to do it ASAP if these were the only two moves they wanted to make.

They have to be moving one or two more guys now that salaries can be aggregated or else there wouldn’t have been any need to move quickly

I don't understand anything about these things but I assume they needed to finish the NBA financial year (or whatever it's called) under the 2nd apron. I think the cut-off date is around the corner, which would explain the rush. Plus the draft, plus creating space to sign players on July 1st, plus now being able to aggregate outgoing players when the trade show starts. (Probably half of what I just said isn't accurate.)

[Gant]

If you've ever painted a house, it goes like this.

First you scrape the old paint off. At that point the house looks bad. But you don't judge the house then, because you know there's a lot more to come.

Then you sand where necessary and prime. Now the house looks a bit better but still pretty bad. You don't judge the house here either, because there's more work left.

Then you add the paint. You paint one coat in some places, and more in others. Whatever it needs. You clean everything up and, "Hey, the house looks great."

The Celtics just got done scraping.

[Bad-Thoma]

Anf Simons and Niang for Marcus Smart and Kelly Olynyk trade works salary wise.

Just saying.

[165bows]

If people still think we may trade Hauser, why don’t we load him up with Niang and some seconds and get one 20ms guy that has shown a few flashes but his team isn’t too hooked on him atm.


Thinking Utah or Minny types may have someone we can shake loose.

Check the list it’s not as rich as one might think with candidates.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

[fallguy]

I think Brad needs to make an honest assessment if having two supermax players as a starting base is compatible with building a championship roster. We know the two superstar method is no longer anywhere near enough (see LBJ/Luka, Durant/Booker, Jimmy/Steph, etc.) - you basically need 5 "championship" caliber starters plus 2-3 strong depth guys.

Our model worked because we were savvy building up the salary base and tradeable contracts over time. Now starting from scratch with two supermaxs and White already basically getting us to the tax, it will be very hard fit in 3-4 more championship rotation caliber players (and guys like this get paid $15-20M+). Not enough salaries to match and any big salaries immediately takes us over the cap and back into cap hell.

Therefore it may be the right time to trade Brown, reset with a cheap potential future #2 and probably grab another younger high caliber rotation piece + picks. I'm not sure I see the path back without doing a full reset.

This is a great, insightful post. The Celtics may have a totally different philosophy on how to build a championship team now. And if so, we could be watching the beginning of that being operationalized.

[Fierce1]

Immm not many. Yes there is a big question about how strong Tatum will come back but that is a fantastic core.

100%.

2018 the Cs went to the ECF with JB and rookie JT.

2020 the Cs got to the ECF again even when Kyrie and Al left.

2022 the Cs unexpectedly went to the Finals.

2024 the Cs won the ultimate prize.

What do all those Celtics team have in common?

Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown

Funny how we see it differently

2020 - go down 0-2, lose
2022 - HC, up 2-1, lose 3 straight
2023 - HC, go down 0-3, lose
2024 - Brad’s masterclass, 3’s were falling
2025 - HC, go down 0-2, lose

What do all those Celtics teams have in common
Brad, JT, JB

Guess that just means your standards are too high.

There are 10 NBA teams without a single championship.

The Clippers have made the WCF only once since the 70s.

Getting to the ECF and Finals, twice, is nothing to sneeze at.

Just ask the Blazers of 1990 and 1992.

[MrGreenRunsDeep]

White/pp
Simons/scheierman
Brown/hauser
Niang
Kornet/queta


Wizards will beat them in play in tournament

[Shak_Celts]

I think they start Pritchard next year. Dude kinda deserves it.

They may, I hope we don’t. He is fine as 6th man.

I think starting him, barring changes to the roster, is a great idea. He's on a great contract and if he can put up numbers he becomes a really nice trade asset if moves need to be made. I don't think the team will be as bad as some people seem to think but if they are and Payton doesn't do that great it's not like keeping him on that deal is a poor value either, he's underpaid and locked up until 27-28. He really played some solid defense as last season when on, I think it's time to let him loose.

I hear you, but I think he’s better as our heater against other benches. He’ll get plenty of minutes either way, so I’m not pressed, but I just hope we keep him as the only offense we got from our bench last season.

If people think we lost talent from the starters, then we’ll open up a bigger hole on the bench where most of the time all we had was Pritch last season. He’s already proven he can get his from the bench, no adjustment there. I don’t want to put someone less qualified when we’re already starving.