2025 Free Agency News/Rumors

[Chi town]

I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this part:

The organization has reached the point where they’ve run through most of their developmental staff in attempting to pair Williams up with the right personal coach, only to see no upward movement for the soon-to-be sixth-year forward. Considering Karnisovas made a desperate attempt to motivate Williams with the security of a five-year, $90 million extension last summer, the only way he knows he can move the underachieving wing is in a package or part of a multi-team deal.

What a **** show on both sides.

I still don't have an issue with the dollar amount, because in the long run it's very close to an MLE contract. But, AK extending him with full knowledge that their developmental staff was at their limit with him is **** insane.

Total CLOWN SHOW

[ChettheJet]

Joe Cowley sends his friends here and tells them, 'see if I just say the usual Patrick Williams smack those people love me. they'll fall for anything'.

He tells you that the team has decided trading PWill is their first move then explains how unlikely that is, gullible isn't attractive

[nomorezorro]

i'm always a little grain-of-salt with cowley's framing of things, but i think this is the first time i've ever heard the idea of someone handing out a healthy long-term contract as a motivation tool

[Dan Z]

They just seem to not like him and don't want to pay him. That means he isn't that good, but he also might not be as bad as he looks in GSW. I still see a ceiling of Jermai Grant as being optimistic. I think he can be pretty serviceable, but I smell more of a Kuzma than even a Grant.

If a franchise like GS (who have won multiple championships) don't think he's good enough to keep then why should the Bulls think he'll be better in Chicago?

I agree that he's not a bad player and do think he has upside, but I'd limit my risk by offering PW. I don't want the Bulls to get stuck with contracts that are no good and the only way out of them is to give up future assets to do so. There's a possibility of that with Kuminga and PW.

Sadly no one is taking PWill. If that is the deal OMG I think everyone would buy Patrick Flowers! If that could be made I'd throw in the portland pick.

PW potentially fits the Warriors better than Kuminga. Defense and a solid three point shooter. Who knows...maybe they'll buy into him still being young?

I don't think Kuminga is all that great either, but has potential.

[Red8911]

AK would definitely give up a pick to move P-Will.

I would too. Give away 2-3 2nd round picks or maybe even a future first. Just find a way to get rid of him.

[The Force.]

AK would definitely give up a pick to move P-Will.

I would too. Give away 2-3 2nd round picks or maybe even a future first. Just find a way to get rid of him.

So throw away future assets to dump a current—self imposed—liability? Great plan.

[kulaz3000]

AK would definitely give up a pick to move P-Will.

I would too. Give away 2-3 2nd round picks or maybe even a future first. Just find a way to get rid of him.

So throw away future assets to dump a current—self imposed—liability? Great plan.

Yeah, anyone who is willing to give up picks, especially first rounders don't understand the advantage of having picks not only to draft young players, but as trading chips in the future. Having no picks can really hamstring a franchise.

[Red8911]

I would too. Give away 2-3 2nd round picks or maybe even a future first. Just find a way to get rid of him.

So throw away future assets to dump a current—self imposed—liability? Great plan.

Yeah, anyone who is willing to give up picks, especially first rounders don't understand the advantage of having picks not only to draft young players, but as trading chips in the future. Having no picks can really hamstring a franchise.

Having a bad contract like P Will (for another 4 years) on your roster can also hamstring a franchise.

Its obviously preferable to trade him away without giving away any picks but if they cant and pick(s) is the only way then it is what is. Can always acquire another pick later on if needed.

They messed up big time by gifting PWill that contract, instead of being stuck with him just move him. His value will probably get even lower next season.

[jnrjr79]

So throw away future assets to dump a current—self imposed—liability? Great plan.

Yeah, anyone who is willing to give up picks, especially first rounders don't understand the advantage of having picks not only to draft young players, but as trading chips in the future. Having no picks can really hamstring a franchise.

Having a bad contract like P Will (for another 4 years) on your roster can also hamstring a franchise.

Its obviously preferable to trade him away without giving away any picks but if they cant and pick(s) is the only way then it is what is. Can always acquire another pick later on if needed.

They messed up big time by gifting PWill that contract, instead of being stuck with him just move him. His value will probably get even lower next season.

I want Pat gone badly, but an $18M/year contract isn’t really going to hamstring a franchise in the scheme of things.

[kulaz3000]

So throw away future assets to dump a current—self imposed—liability? Great plan.

Yeah, anyone who is willing to give up picks, especially first rounders don't understand the advantage of having picks not only to draft young players, but as trading chips in the future. Having no picks can really hamstring a franchise.

Having a bad contract like P Will (for another 4 years) on your roster can also hamstring a franchise.

Its obviously preferable to trade him away without giving away any picks but if they cant and pick(s) is the only way then it is what is. Can always acquire another pick later on if needed.

They messed up big time by gifting PWill that contract, instead of being stuck with him just move him. His value will probably get even lower next season.

I'm not as caught up on his contract as others. It's a little over the mid-level exception amount, and will get closer to that amount each year. It's going to be moveable without adding a first round pick, and even if we can't trade him, you play him off the bench or just use him in a role until he becomes an expiring.

Point being, he doesn't take up too much of the cap for the team to be desperate to move him, or at least they should be. He isn't some team cancer, or a max contract player.

[WindyCityBorn]

NO KUMINGA.

Roster glut at PF.

Kuminga doesn’t have the 3 ball to play the 3.

Roster glut at PF? Who do we have? You can play m Kuminga and Buzelis. Patrick Williams should not stand in the way of any moves we may or may not make.

Giddey/Coby/Matas/Kuminga core looks good to me

We aren’t paying all three of Giddey, White and Kuminga. If we trade for Kuminga then Coby White is gone.

[WindyCityBorn]

Is there a path to a 3 team trade with the 2 teams the Bulls are most recently rumored to be talking to?

Framework of
Beal & Kuminga to CHI
Pwill & ? to PHO
Vuc & ? to GS

Gross

[WindyCityBorn]

Am I the only one who is cool with no major moves? Sign Josh, draft #12, bring back Jones if possible.

No I’m fine with no major moves. People just want a move for the sake of it.

[WindyCityBorn]

I’d take that Beal deal but I see no way PHX does it. They will just buy him out.

Hes an expiring after next season but his NTC really screws you. You are stuck with him for two seasons or you buy him out.

Remember he did play for Billy.

It’s worth it ridding yourself of PW and getting the 10th pick.

No it’s not worth it.

[dpucane]

Yeah, anyone who is willing to give up picks, especially first rounders don't understand the advantage of having picks not only to draft young players, but as trading chips in the future. Having no picks can really hamstring a franchise.

Having a bad contract like P Will (for another 4 years) on your roster can also hamstring a franchise.

Its obviously preferable to trade him away without giving away any picks but if they cant and pick(s) is the only way then it is what is. Can always acquire another pick later on if needed.

They messed up big time by gifting PWill that contract, instead of being stuck with him just move him. His value will probably get even lower next season.

I want Pat gone badly, but an $18M/year contract isn’t really going to hamstring a franchise in the scheme of things.

not nearly as hamstringing as not having any good players because you never draft anyone

[kulaz3000]

Am I the only one who is cool with no major moves? Sign Josh, draft #12, bring back Jones if possible.

No I’m fine with no major moves.

I'm kind of in the same boat, though I think one move the Bulls will make this offseason is finally offloading Vuc.

If we can trade Vuc, bring no long term contracts, and do the same with Pat, I'd be more than happy stacking the team with young players and seeing what happens this season.

[NecessaryEvil]

Am I the only one who is cool with no major moves? Sign Josh, draft #12, bring back Jones if possible.

No I’m fine with no major moves. People just want a move for the sake of it.

??

We literally do nothing under this GM regime

[Michael Jackson]

Yeah, anyone who is willing to give up picks, especially first rounders don't understand the advantage of having picks not only to draft young players, but as trading chips in the future. Having no picks can really hamstring a franchise.

Having a bad contract like P Will (for another 4 years) on your roster can also hamstring a franchise.

Its obviously preferable to trade him away without giving away any picks but if they cant and pick(s) is the only way then it is what is. Can always acquire another pick later on if needed.

They messed up big time by gifting PWill that contract, instead of being stuck with him just move him. His value will probably get even lower next season.

I want Pat gone badly, but an $18M/year contract isn’t really going to hamstring a franchise in the scheme of things.

Yeah his contract dollars are not an issue, his length is as far as moving him but his yearly cost isn’t crippling the franchise. Giving up assets to move him would not be advantageous and that is why he is staying a Bull.

[Michael Jackson]

Am I the only one who is cool with no major moves? Sign Josh, draft #12, bring back Jones if possible.

No I’m fine with no major moves. People just want a move for the sake of it.

??

We literally do nothing under this GM regime

No we have done plenty can’t say much of it was good. No moves would have put us in a much better spot.

[jnrjr79]

Am I the only one who is cool with no major moves? Sign Josh, draft #12, bring back Jones if possible.

No I’m fine with no major moves. People just want a move for the sake of it.

??

We literally do nothing under this GM regime

Blew up first team (Lauri, etc.)
Traded for Vooch, DeMar, and Ball.
Maxed Zach
Signed Caruso
Traded Caruso for Giddey
Traded DeMar
Traded Zach
Etc.

AK’s got a lot of problems, but a lack of doing stuff isn’t really it. The timing of a lot of those transactions has obviously been bad, but IMO the criticism of AK isn’t really “he never does anything” and has been a lot closer to “he hasn’t been patient/methodical enough.”