Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season

[Dan Z]

Porzingis traded to Hawks.

Hawks improved. Where does that put them when we predicted next years standings?

I’m not sure if it’ll definitely do much. Porzingis is an impact player, but he also misses a lot of games.

Even if he's only there for half the season and then into the playoffs that will be an improvement for the Hawks.

Plus, they have young players who might Improve: Daniels, Okongwu, and Risacher. A healthy Jalen Johnson will help too.

[jnrjr79]

Why are we itching for the Bulls to make moves? So we can be minutely better, and get back in the play-in? I'd much rather focus on a young roster, and be bad again next season, because I'm highly interested in next years draft class, which looks like star potential players in the top 5.

There are moves that would help with that, too, though.

[kulaz3000]

Why are we itching for the Bulls to make moves? So we can be minutely better, and get back in the play-in? I'd much rather focus on a young roster, and be bad again next season, because I'm highly interested in next years draft class, which looks like star potential players in the top 5.

There are moves that would help with that, too, though.

I'm sure there are, and I'm quite confident that making the draft selections aren't going to the Bulls only move. If they make no moves, I'm with you, but it's still early days yet. I just hope that they don't make a deal for veterans just to make the Bulls a tiny bit better, I'd prefer they take a long term approach and obtain draft picks or acquire young players, and if we miss out on the playin/playoffs entirely next year, then so be it.

[jnrjr79]

Why are we itching for the Bulls to make moves? So we can be minutely better, and get back in the play-in? I'd much rather focus on a young roster, and be bad again next season, because I'm highly interested in next years draft class, which looks like star potential players in the top 5.

There are moves that would help with that, too, though.

I'm sure there are, and I'm quite confident that making the draft selections aren't going to the Bulls only move. If they make no moves, I'm with you, but it's still early days yet. I just hope that they don't make a deal for veterans just to make the Bulls a tiny bit better, I'd prefer they take a long term approach and obtain draft picks or acquire young players, and if we miss out on the playin/playoffs entirely next year, then so be it.

Gotcha. I didn’t realize you were just talking about draft/pre-draft.

IMO, if the Bulls really want to do the patient draft thing (and I’m highly skeptical they do!), they minimally should be dealing Coby this offseason. If they just draft and basically stand pat, they’ll probably just be in play-in land again.

[Dan Z]

Kyrie Irving opted out of his player option (43 million) to sign a three year 119 million dollar deal.

I get why the Mavs did this, but I don't think they should've done it.

[dumbell78]

Kyrie Irving opted out of his player option (43 million) to sign a three year 119 million dollar deal.

I get why the Mavs did this, but I don't think they should've done it.

Think the final year is a team option too. So basically a 2-year deal.

[jnrjr79]

Kyrie Irving opted out of his player option (43 million) to sign a three year 119 million dollar deal.

I get why the Mavs did this, but I don't think they should've done it.

Think the final year is a team option too. So basically a 2-year deal.

It’s a player option, FWIW.

[Dan Z]

Kyrie Irving opted out of his player option (43 million) to sign a three year 119 million dollar deal.

I get why the Mavs did this, but I don't think they should've done it.

Think the final year is a team option too. So basically a 2-year deal.

It’s a player option, FWIW.

That's too bad. If it was a player option then I'd say the deal is fine.

I don't think the Mavs had to worry about Kyrie going to another team, but I'm sure they did this to just get on with it and deal with other stuff. I'm just not sure that in a year a 34 year old Kyrie will be the same and don't think that's the direction they should go in (but that's my two cents).

[kulaz3000]

If I were the Mavs, I would have just traded away both Kyrie and Davis to rebuild fresh around Flagg. Bring in some solid non-star veterans so they don't completely tank, but allows them to give the keys to Flagg. I just don't think either Kyrie and Davis fit long term due to their age, and even with Flagg they aren't competing any time soon, so why bother.

[Indomitable]

If I were the Mavs, I would have just traded away both Kyrie and Davis to rebuild fresh around Flagg. Bring in some solid non-star veterans so they don't completely tank, but allows them to give the keys to Flagg. I just don't think either Kyrie and Davis fit long term due to their age, and even with Flagg they aren't competing any time soon, so why bother.

Who in their right mind trades for Kyrie?

[Dan Z]

If I were the Mavs, I would have just traded away both Kyrie and Davis to rebuild fresh around Flagg. Bring in some solid non-star veterans so they don't completely tank, but allows them to give the keys to Flagg. I just don't think either Kyrie and Davis fit long term due to their age, and even with Flagg they aren't competing any time soon, so why bother.

Who in their right mind trades for Kyrie?

I agree...nobody would trade for him right now. On the General Board a few posters said that Kyrie took a pay cut, which I call BS on. Yes, he agreed to a deal that puts the Mavs under the apron, but that's not taking a pay cut IMO. If he tested the market or threatened to leave where would he go? Nobody has money to sign him and if they do those teams are rebuilding and wouldn't have any interest (Brooklyn for example).

[ChiTownHero1992]

If I were the Mavs, I would have just traded away both Kyrie and Davis to rebuild fresh around Flagg. Bring in some solid non-star veterans so they don't completely tank, but allows them to give the keys to Flagg. I just don't think either Kyrie and Davis fit long term due to their age, and even with Flagg they aren't competing any time soon, so why bother.

I normally would agree but i wonder if they're thinking Kyrie/Davis/Flagg might contend and help build a winning mentality in a #1 pick similar to San Antonio 99.

My guess is they want to see where they are at in February, if contenders push strong, if not then trade Kyrie/Davis if possible for a chance to rebuild around Flagg

[DASMACKDOWN]

I think if anything, the league is proving with this second apron, that no team wants to be in it.

Boston fresh off a title, said no thanks.

Even if they would have won the title this year, the new ownership was thinking about cutting down the salary. So I think these moves would have happened regardless of Tatum's injury. But with the injury, it made the perfect excuse to not just trim, but burn it all down.

I say this in relation to the Bulls.

We don't even want to pay the luxury tax much less a tax apron.

So our books have to be special not just good. The ownership treats us like we are the smallest market in the league. Unfortunate, but we cant do anything about it.

We have to have 1 maybe 2 players, that get less than market value. That or draft a guy who is playing far above his pay grade. That is the only way to progress the team.

The only real opportunity for that is getting Giddey back on a fantastic deal. Or Coby Ayo etc. If we pay them market rate, our team is more than likely to be stuck in a middle matrix.

[Indomitable]

If I were the Mavs, I would have just traded away both Kyrie and Davis to rebuild fresh around Flagg. Bring in some solid non-star veterans so they don't completely tank, but allows them to give the keys to Flagg. I just don't think either Kyrie and Davis fit long term due to their age, and even with Flagg they aren't competing any time soon, so why bother.

Who in their right mind trades for Kyrie?

I agree...nobody would trade for him right now. On the General Board a few posters said that Kyrie took a pay cut, which I call BS on. Yes, he agreed to a deal that puts the Mavs under the apron, but that's not taking a pay cut IMO. If he tested the market or threatened to leave where would he go? Nobody has money to sign him and if they do those teams are rebuilding and wouldn't have any interest (Brooklyn for example).

People post to make just to do it. There is no logic.

[Indomitable]

I think if anything, the league is proving with this second apron, that no team wants to be in it.

Boston fresh off a title, said no thanks.

Even if they would have won the title this year, the new ownership was thinking about cutting down the salary. So I think these moves would have happened regardless of Tatum's injury. But with the injury, it made the perfect excuse to not just trim, but burn it all down.

I say this in relation to the Bulls.

We don't even want to pay the luxury tax much less a tax apron.

So our books have to be special not just good. The ownership treats us like we are the smallest market in the league. Unfortunate, but we cant do anything about it.

We have to have 1 maybe 2 players, that get less than market value. That or draft a guy who is playing far above his pay grade. That is the only way to progress the team.

The only real opportunity for that is getting Giddey back on a fantastic deal. Or Coby Ayo etc. If we pay them market rate, our team is more than likely to be stuck in a middle matrix.

Boston lost and their best player might not play for 2 Seasons. This does not prove anything other then they believe it is a waste of resources.

Boston got picks and a couple of nice players. H

[Indomitable]

CMB is the Caruso in pf/center body. Am I correct.

[SfBull]

Teams keep doing trades trying to improve,The Bulls still doing nothing.
This is sad.

[sco]

CMB is the Caruso in pf/center body. Am I correct.

Yes, BUT Caruso's value is his ability to defend POA. CMB is more of a paint defender. With this being a guard driven league, a POA defender is more valuable.

[Ice Man]

I agree...nobody would trade for him right now. On the General Board a few posters said that Kyrie took a pay cut, which I call BS on. Yes, he agreed to a deal that puts the Mavs under the apron, but that's not taking a pay cut IMO. If he tested the market or threatened to leave where would he go? Nobody has money to sign him and if they do those teams are rebuilding and wouldn't have any interest (Brooklyn for example).

If other teams wouldn't pay Kryrie $40 million per year, why did the Mavs do so?

[Ice Man]

Teams keep doing trades trying to improve,The Bulls still doing nothing.

Hey now, we did a trade to improve. We moved WCJ & two draft picks for Vuc.