2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[mjkvol]

I don't ever remember a draft quite like this one, with two lock picks (if you can even consider Harper a lock) and then potential chaos pretty much the entire rest of the 1st round. The rest of the proposed lottery players after Harper could go in who knows what order, there are a zillion rumors of a half dozen teams trading up into the lottery, and now the f***king Celtics even rumored to move up for my boy Kasparas, which would annoy the hell out of me.

My ideal scenario would be to trade down to #4 with CHA, then again with either WSH or BKN, and get one of Kon or Jaku plus a bunch of extra picks from the two trades. If we could also walk away with any combination of Clifford, Fleming, Coward, CMB, Riley, or Thierro as well, this draft would be perfection.

Two guys I could see moving into the teens are Walter Clayton and Will Riley. Clayton is a stone cold killer I could see being a microwave bench scorer right out of the gate, and will have teams regretting passing on him. Riley is so young, with upside that is through the roof. Jase Richardson is another 'older' kid who should be a really good pro.

If we are forced to stay at #3, then I suppose VJ would be the best bet, and maybe even Tre. Anyone but Bailey, please.

[Arsenal]

Some rebuild. We don't have our picks.

An underrated move is to get all our picks back tonight. Considering both BKN and OKC want to move up, it is doable.

If they're not sold on the star potential of guys at the top this could be the way to go.

Get all our picks back, and maybe some extra, and still grab 1 or 2 prospects in the 1st round.

Sets us up nicely going forward.

[76ciology]

Why trade George? Are we poor?

Actually yes we are. Your boy Joshy is a cheap bastard, yet you won't admit it.

That's why it will be NO SURPRISE to see us make a cost-cutting move tonight!

Huhuhu T_T

[Mik317]

Trading PG doesn't even save money or get them under the tax iirc

lol we are cooked

[Mik317]

trading PG because he hurted Ace's fee fees confirmed

who says Darrly has no feelings yo

[Arsenal]

Trading PG doesn't even save money or get them under the tax iirc

lol we are cooked

Not necessarily. There are tons of PG trades out there to shave $10m or more of total salary. Small moves from there could duck the tax entirely.

And we all KNOW that's a big priority so Joshy can buy another yacht.

[FlyingArrow]

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I'm just trying to get my mind right for the Tre show so I watched when he beat up on my Cats. His offense has great upside but he might be the worst defensive player I've ever watched that is projected to go in the top 10. I don't care if he had a 7' wingspan and was 6'8, there's no amount of physical tools that can make up for defense like that. He cannot, under any circumstances, figure out how to get around a screen. If he gets put onto a big in the post, it's an insta-bucket. He's on rollerskates when facing a legitimate offensive player. It's really hard to wrap my head around how bad he is on that end.

That tape puts me onto team VJ.

[Negrodamus]

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I'm just trying to get my mind right for the Tre show so I watched when he beat up on my Cats. His offense has great upside but he might be the worst defensive player I've ever watched that is projected to go in the top 10. I don't care if he had a 7' wingspan and was 6'8, there's no amount of physical tools that can make up for defense like that. He cannot, under any circumstances, figure out how to get around a screen. If he gets put onto a big in the post, it's an insta-bucket. He's on rollerskates when facing a legitimate offensive player. It's really hard to wrap my head around how bad he is on that end.

That tape puts me onto team VJ.

I just flipped them on my big board. Every time I think I can get on board with Tre, I watch one defensive possession of his and I just imagine him defending Kyrie or Steph or any top tier guard. Pure BBQ chicken.

[mjkvol]

Some rebuild. We don't have our picks.

An underrated move is to get all our picks back tonight. Considering both BKN and OKC want to move up, it is doable.

If they're not sold on the star potential of guys at the top this could be the way to go.

Get all our picks back, and maybe some extra, and still grab 1 or 2 prospects in the 1st round.

Sets us up nicely going forward.

Agree. Like I said, ideally trading down with CHA and then again with BKN or WSH would keep us in the lottery and add a bunch of picks.

[Negrodamus]

"Adam is pragmatic about his own defensive failings. "I've always been told if you score more points than your guy, that's good D," he says.

Tre studied from the Book of Adam (Morrison).

[Iverson Armband]

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I'm just trying to get my mind right for the Tre show so I watched when he beat up on my Cats. His offense has great upside but he might be the worst defensive player I've ever watched that is projected to go in the top 10. I don't care if he had a 7' wingspan and was 6'8, there's no amount of physical tools that can make up for defense like that. He cannot, under any circumstances, figure out how to get around a screen. If he gets put onto a big in the post, it's an insta-bucket. He's on rollerskates when facing a legitimate offensive player. It's really hard to wrap my head around how bad he is on that end.

You don’t think that’s easily correctable?

[mjkvol]

Trading PG doesn't even save money or get them under the tax iirc

lol we are cooked

Not necessarily. There are tons of PG trades out there to shave $10m or more of total salary. Small moves from there could duck the tax entirely.

And we all KNOW that's a big priority so Joshy can buy another yacht.

Who the hell cares about Harris? If Morey can move George for some expirings and save money, I'm all for it.

[Mik317]

Trading PG doesn't even save money or get them under the tax iirc

lol we are cooked

Not necessarily. There are tons of PG trades out there to shave $10m or more of total salary. Small moves from there could duck the tax entirely.

And we all KNOW that's a big priority so Joshy can buy another yacht.

nah he needs to complete his collection of philly rivals so its so he can buy a baseball team

[LeonJordanJr24]

Everyone wanting VJ doesn't know draft value , fit/chemistry or whats good for the team.

[FireMorey]

PG isn't getting traded

[Negrodamus]

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I'm just trying to get my mind right for the Tre show so I watched when he beat up on my Cats. His offense has great upside but he might be the worst defensive player I've ever watched that is projected to go in the top 10. I don't care if he had a 7' wingspan and was 6'8, there's no amount of physical tools that can make up for defense like that. He cannot, under any circumstances, figure out how to get around a screen. If he gets put onto a big in the post, it's an insta-bucket. He's on rollerskates when facing a legitimate offensive player. It's really hard to wrap my head around how bad he is on that end.

You don’t think that’s easily correctable?

Easily correctable? No. What total defensive liability came into the league and became a fine defender? He needs to fight through screens, not avoid all bodily contact. He's not athletic despite what the combine numbers say, so there isn't some upside there.

I think it'll take a lot of work to get him to passable defensively and he'll have to put on a lot more weight.

[Stanford]

Everyone wanting VJ doesn't know draft value , fit/chemistry or whats good for the team.

Hell yeah, dude!

[Negrodamus]

Everyone wanting VJ doesn't know draft value , fit/chemistry or whats good for the team.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'm not overly excited about taking Edgecombe.

I'm not overly excited about Tre Johnson.

Ace Bailey is a stupid kid and as bad as I wanted it to be him, his character flaws and drama are going to be a problem in Philly. This city will eat that kid alive.

The best play here is to trade down, acquire another pick, and take Jaku, Kon, Queen, or CMB.
Brooklyn seems like the right team to do business with as does Washington. It makes perfect sense to try and do this. Will we? Probably not. Can Morey draft? Yeah, but he's had a few misses and I don't fully trust him to get this right.

We're in deep $hit if we take Bailey and he holds out. We're screwed if we take Edgecombe and he forgets to shoot. Incoming rare hardwood floor allergy for Tre Johnson.
The fact that people are suggesting that Josh Harris may actually just give the pick away to save money and clear up space, sounds as depressing as it is a possible reality. Cool, we take Ben Saraf in the 2nd round! But he just decides to stay overseas. Eventually he gets traded to Utah for cash considerations and is balling out for them in 2030.

I hate to be so down on this, but since 2013 we have seen draft fails time and time again. In fact, going back to the 80s this franchise has drafted historically bad. Brad Daugherty for Roy Hinson. Shawn Bradley over Penny Hardaway. Sharone Wright, Tim fkin Thomas, Larry Hughes (we never drafted any help for AI). Evan Turner, Okafor, Simmons, Fultz all busts. Trading Bridges after passing on Shai. Jaden Springer was a god awful draft pick and I'm a Vols fan. This has continued. This franchise just makes bad decisions and with so much riding on this pick it's really hard to find the faith to believe that they'll get it right this time.

[Negrodamus]

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Meanwhile, VJ also has his issues on defense, but there's certainly a commitment to at least trying. This is probably his best offensive game, so I wanted to see a similar situation to the one I presented of Tre above. And in crunchtime, we see him stay with his man and force the turnover to give them a chance down three.