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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#821 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:14 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#822 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:16 pm

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Unless the Spurs want smoke from Klutch he’s not going anywhere. Literally forced his way there to get them a good deal from the Kings. O’connor is an idiot. If anyone goes it’s Harper and it will probably involve Giannis.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#823 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:19 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#824 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:35 pm

Andrew Wiggins to the Sacramento could really be a thing. Wiggins and LaVine have a relationship dating back to the Timberwolves and apparently still good friends. Would also get Wiggins back close to the bay. Not saying Wiggins for DeRozan is going to be the deal but it does make sense for him as a trade match. Need to expand this deal to include Monk, Carter, or picks
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#826 » by wadenation305 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:40 pm

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Send them Wiggins back for Kuminga
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#827 » by RexBoyWonder » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:44 pm

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Send them Wiggins back for Kuminga



Worthy gamble, just limit the years we guarantee him
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#828 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:45 pm

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Send them Wiggins back for Kuminga

Not a terrible idea at all. Would much prefer to gamble on the 22 year old Kuminga over DeRozan. At least it shows somewhat of a direction of taking a risk on a buy low young player who has shown scoring chops.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#829 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:47 pm

I want Riley to find that next SGA… and by that I mean, a player with potential to become more, that is currently not maximized in their team. That is what I wish Riley had done with Butler a year or two before the debacle… traded him for something like that and picks.


Now, it’s a matter of hoping that someone like Komepinga would shine in the Heat system…. Because trading away firsts in this new tax nightmare CBA to get someone like Jaylen Brown (who is one tear below superstar) does not excite me. Collect cost suppressed players with potential, help polish and make them shine, while building through the draft as well as building draft capital for that IT trade should it ever manifest.

I can get excited about development… matter of fact, my favorite season is summer league season!!!
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#830 » by al bondiga » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:49 pm

I don't think
The heat really like kuminga because he was the obvious trade Before
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#831 » by SA37 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:52 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
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Vertical Limit wrote:Which untouchable do you not want to trade for an all nba player and finals mvp entering his prime, who has been stuck behind Tatum?

Yall said i was crazy for herro #20 and robinson for durant. That was an overpay right? Yea then Houston eclipsed me times a million.

Now my new offer is an overpay too. Okay, wait and see what the next star gets traded for :lol:

What did lesser player Desmond Bane get traded for again? KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 unprotected firsts and a swap?


Hmm okay. :lol: lets just lowball everybody. That has worked great for us. It has netted us only one deal in 4 years, Kyle Lowry who Toronto did not want anymore anyways. Wheres our next kyle lowry.. maybe we can trade kyle andersen and kevin love for a point guard :lol: :banghead:


I don't know what to tell you - Personally I dislike Brown both as a person and his game as well. He's way overrated in my book. He benefited from playing on stacked team, but his BB IQ is questionable and He's going to be mad overpaid. Honestly on is current huge contract and after the injury he's barley a positive asset IMO.

Regardless - i think EVERY objective fan would agree your offered package for him is a huge overpay. You're treating him like he's Giannis - and he's far from that level.

Giannis is not going to be had for my proposed package. We dont have nowhere close to the assets for Giannis without including Bam.

Giannis goes for 6 unprotected firsts at minimum and a star player plus matching contracts


Bam probably brings those 6 picks down to 3-4. There aren't many teams that can beat a Bam-centered deal. And at 28, they still have time to build up a squad with him.

Does Cleveland offer Mobley? Would Houston offer Sengun and millions of picks? Would OKC offer a package around Chet and a million picks?

Those are the only 3 teams that I think could put together a much stronger offer than Miami without gutting their team.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#832 » by al bondiga » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:52 pm

There's celtics trying to trade. Jaylen brown is Going to be a difficult task... His contract sucks big time
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#833 » by Hallstar » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:53 pm

Don't see the point in Kuminga, are we trying to have the most pfs in the league?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#834 » by SA37 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:55 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:We could really use a veteran 2 guard scorer behind Herro. I’m not talking about Alec Burks either. Pelle Larrson is a nice player but that’s not his game either. Need another ignitable two guard behind Herro.


Jordan Clarkson is the 1st player who comes to mind who would be available, not need to start, be on an extremely friendly deal (1-year, $14M), and not require much from the Heat to acquire.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#835 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:56 pm

Hallstar wrote:Don't see the point in Kuminga, are we trying to have the most pfs in the league?

At 6’7 225 they probably view him as a SF. He’s essentially the same size as Jimmy
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#836 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:59 pm

SA37 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:We could really use a veteran 2 guard scorer behind Herro. I’m not talking about Alec Burks either. Pelle Larrson is a nice player but that’s not his game either. Need another ignitable two guard behind Herro.


Jordan Clarkson is the 1st player who comes to mind who would be available, not need to start, be on an extremely friendly deal (1-year, $14M), and not require much from the Heat to acquire.

Duncan for Clarkson? Both teams split the savings on the Duncan contract. Utah saves 5 million when they release Duncan and open roster spot
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#837 » by Flash4thewin » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:02 pm

al bondiga wrote:There's celtics trying to trade. Jaylen brown is Going to be a difficult task... His contract sucks big time


They will only trade him if it’s a lopsided offer. His contract does not suck it’s just the new reality in the NBA. The TV deal will jump things up. We need to get over sticker shock and just look at what % of the cap they are. Booker is about to get 75 mil per year extension. In one year Bam extension kicks in he will be making 50 mil too. Just focus on the cap % the contract is not the actual numbers.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#838 » by SA37 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:02 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:We could really use a veteran 2 guard scorer behind Herro. I’m not talking about Alec Burks either. Pelle Larrson is a nice player but that’s not his game either. Need another ignitable two guard behind Herro.


Jordan Clarkson is the 1st player who comes to mind who would be available, not need to start, be on an extremely friendly deal (1-year, $14M), and not require much from the Heat to acquire.

Duncan for Clarkson? Both teams split the savings on the Duncan contract.


Or use K Anderson. Maybe you need a 3rd team for that.

I'd rather use Robinson to acquire Sexton or J Collins. Since it's Ainge, I'm sure he'd hold Riley's feet to the fire for draft compensation and I'm not sure Miami would give up any picks for those guys.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#839 » by EMC5466 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:04 pm

Hallstar wrote:Don't see the point in Kuminga, are we trying to have the most pfs in the league?

He would be a combo SF/PF with us.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#840 » by wadenation305 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:07 pm

MiamiLoyal926 wrote:I want Riley to find that next SGA… and by that I mean, a player with potential to become more, that is currently not maximized in their team. That is what I wish Riley had done with Butler a year or two before the debacle… traded him for something like that and picks.


Now, it’s a matter of hoping that someone like Komepinga would shine in the Heat system…. Because trading away firsts in this new tax nightmare CBA to get someone like Jaylen Brown (who is one tear below superstar) does not excite me. Collect cost suppressed players with potential, help polish and make them shine, while building through the draft as well as building draft capital for that IT trade should it ever manifest.

I can get excited about development… matter of fact, my favorite season is summer league season!!!



With teams not having money available, we can also luck out and extend Kuminga on a team friendly deal that becomes a very palatable contract and player of value to be moved in case of something bigger like a Giannis trade (even though no matter what I do not think we have enough to trade for him and immediately build a contender around him with whats left of our assets if any)

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