Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[MN7725]

What value does NAW sign and trade net us?

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Word is that the Hawks, at roughly $30 million below the luxury-tax line, are expected to register interest in a sign-and-trade deal with Minnesota to try to acquire Nickeil Alexander-Walker — among various options that Atlanta is exploring with its trade and financial flexibility — in the event that the Timberwolves, in their quests to re-sign Julius Randle and Naz Reid, run out of the flexibility needed to re-sign Alexander-Walker.

-Mark Stein

i suggested in the draft thread possibly ATL drafts who Wolves want at #13, Wolves draft who ATL wants at #17
to be swapped as part of NAW deal, even if indirectly

[minimus]

I wonder if any NAW sign-and-trade means no DDV trade

Word is that Donte moved out of his house yesterday.

Noooooooooooooooooooo

[NebWolvesFan]

What value does NAW sign and trade net us?

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Word is that the Hawks, at roughly $30 million below the luxury-tax line, are expected to register interest in a sign-and-trade deal with Minnesota to try to acquire Nickeil Alexander-Walker — among various options that Atlanta is exploring with its trade and financial flexibility — in the event that the Timberwolves, in their quests to re-sign Julius Randle and Naz Reid, run out of the flexibility needed to re-sign Alexander-Walker.

-Mark Stein

i suggested in the draft thread possibly ATL drafts who Wolves want at #13, Wolves draft who ATL wants at #17
to be swapped as part of NAW deal, even if indirectly

That's probably optimistic. I see a more likely scenario is that Minnesota gets a couple of the Cleveland seconds Atlanta owns. But honestly, if Minnesota can get two real seconds for NAW I would take it.

[Guest84]

I came across an article suggesting DDV/Rob for Coby White. But I've seen other places suggesting more than that for White.

I don't really see a big difference in skill sets/limitations between Sexton and C White, White has just played in a bigger market on a semi-competitive team

if Sexton is available for less

Possible difference in IQ? Haven't seen enough of either to know for sure.

[TimberKat]

Let's hope we turn our two picks today into some real asset that we can use now. However, Connelly seems to do his big deals after the draft or right before the season starts I love the Gobert for Cooper trade too

[TimberKat]

What about Randle and Conley to Portland for Holiday and Camara?

[Nick K]

Miami loves Bam too much.

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Does MIA loves Brown contract as well?

WOW! I had no idea. Boston is really blowing it up if true. Thanks for putting that up.

[Nick K]

I came across an article suggesting DDV/Rob for Coby White. But I've seen other places suggesting more than that for White.

Please NO to that.

[Nick K]

What value does NAW sign and trade net us?

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Word is that the Hawks, at roughly $30 million below the luxury-tax line, are expected to register interest in a sign-and-trade deal with Minnesota to try to acquire Nickeil Alexander-Walker — among various options that Atlanta is exploring with its trade and financial flexibility — in the event that the Timberwolves, in their quests to re-sign Julius Randle and Naz Reid, run out of the flexibility needed to re-sign Alexander-Walker.

-Mark Stein

i suggested in the draft thread possibly ATL drafts who Wolves want at #13, Wolves draft who ATL wants at #17
to be swapped as part of NAW deal, even if indirectly

What a great move for us if true.

[MN7725]

I came across an article suggesting DDV/Rob for Coby White. But I've seen other places suggesting more than that for White.

I don't really see a big difference in skill sets/limitations between Sexton and C White, White has just played in a bigger market on a semi-competitive team

if Sexton is available for less

Possible difference in IQ? Haven't seen enough of either to know for sure.

i guess i don't know how the "IQ" would show

they are both scoring guards, neither are special passers or have that inherent make-teammates-better quality that someone like Haliburton or Chris Paul has, if thats what you mean, not those kind of players

White is way more crafty and shifty in his scoring, Sexton is quickness and hustle, so probably White probably would be higher IQ, read the game better

I like Sexton because he's one of those psychopath competitors so you don't have to worry about his energy/effort, only that he might get too amped up. Wolves have had too many low energy games last couple seasons even with their success, which didn't really happen with Beverly, who is a wired similar

[Slim Tubby]

Miami loves Bam too much.

Read on Twitter

Does MIA loves Brown contract as well?

WOW! I had no idea. Boston is really blowing it up if true. Thanks for putting that up.

Adebayo is right at the top of my list with Derrick White for guys I'd love to add to this roster. Is this something MIA even considers?

MIA in: Gobert, Randle, 17 & 31
MIN in: Adebayo & Rozier

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[BlacJacMac]

I came across an article suggesting DDV/Rob for Coby White. But I've seen other places suggesting more than that for White.

Fortunately that was another "FanNation" article.

I'd do DDV/Rob for Derrick White...

[BlacJacMac]

Miami loves Bam too much.

Read on Twitter

Does MIA loves Brown contract as well?

I do that trade all day if I'm Boston.

Brown is awesome, but will be 29 when the new season starts, just had a debridement procedure to address a partial meniscus tear, is a mediocre 3 point shooter and has not been a plus defender for at least the past 3 years.

Plus that contract...

[Guest84]

I don't really see a big difference in skill sets/limitations between Sexton and C White, White has just played in a bigger market on a semi-competitive team

if Sexton is available for less

Possible difference in IQ? Haven't seen enough of either to know for sure.

i guess i don't know how the "IQ" would show

they are both scoring guards, neither are special passers or have that inherent make-teammates-better quality that someone like Haliburton or Chris Paul has, if thats what you mean, not those kind of players

White is way more crafty and shifty in his scoring, Sexton is quickness and hustle, so probably White probably would be higher IQ, read the game better

I like Sexton because he's one of those psychopath competitors so you don't have to worry about his energy/effort, only that he might get too amped up. Wolves have had too many low energy games last couple seasons even with their success, which didn't really happen with Beverly, who is a wired similar

For me, IQ is more about playing the right way and/or knowing when to do xyz. See Pacers/OKC, Spurs of old, GS. Knowing when to pass, when to shoot, when to make a play, etc.

The bold is the one thing I have noticed while watching Sexton but does he actually move the needle? Could he be a winning player?

I'm so so on both players as neither would be my first choice for the pg position.

[MN7725]

Possible difference in IQ? Haven't seen enough of either to know for sure.

i guess i don't know how the "IQ" would show

they are both scoring guards, neither are special passers or have that inherent make-teammates-better quality that someone like Haliburton or Chris Paul has, if thats what you mean, not those kind of players

White is way more crafty and shifty in his scoring, Sexton is quickness and hustle, so probably White probably would be higher IQ, read the game better

I like Sexton because he's one of those psychopath competitors so you don't have to worry about his energy/effort, only that he might get too amped up. Wolves have had too many low energy games last couple seasons even with their success, which didn't really happen with Beverly, who is a wired similar

For me, IQ is more about playing the right way and/or knowing when to do xyz. See Pacers/OKC, Spurs of old, GS. Knowing when to pass, when to shoot, when to make a play, etc.

The bold is the one thing I have noticed while watching Sexton but does he actually move the needle? Could he be a winning player?

I'm so so on both players as neighter would be my first choice for the pg position.

Wolves don't have much ammo to get anything other than a flawed player, which would still be a massive upgrade over their guard situation last year, Conley/DDV/NAW/Dillingham was the worst "PG" rotation in the playoffs, lets be real

you don't know until a player gets put into that situation

I remember arguing with people about trading for Aaron Gordon when he was with the Magic, the counter argument people gave was "he's #4 pick, he wants to be a star, he won't defer to KAT, etc" and then he goes to Denver and becomes the ultimate complimentary player

I think it helps that Sexton and ANT are friends from Atlanta, pretty sure they workout together off-season

[minimus]

Miami loves Bam too much.

Read on Twitter

Does MIA loves Brown contract as well?

I do that trade all day if I'm Boston.

Brown is awesome, but will be 29 when the new season starts, just had a debridement procedure to address a partial meniscus tear, is a mediocre 3 point shooter and has not been a plus defender for at least the past 3 years.

Plus that contract...

Yep, I agree. I also believe that BOS championship JT and JB kind of made them look better than they are, because of how well their system worked. However, their new contracts in new CBA make owners think twice before keeping them.

P.S. Adebayo extension is also big. However, I believe that he can be that missing piece in MIN: a true five out bigman next to Ant. One who can anchor defense and help in offense.

[BlacJacMac]

P.S. Adebayo extension is also big. However, I believe that he can be that missing piece in MIN: a true five out bigman next to Ant. One who can anchor defense and help in offense.

I agree. But I don't see Miami trading him for what we can offer. I imagine any deal would have to start around McDaniels.

[Klomp]

he's not really a "PG" in terms of passing and running an offense, and is going to be limited defensively like most "PG" sized players

These are the things that have kept me away in the past. I'm open to considering him though.

[cmoss84]

Want to win a championship? Go big or go home. A Rudy trade for a starting PF follows.

Boston IN: DDV, RD, #17, #20
Boston OUT: White

Miami IN: Randle, Naz, #31
Miami OUT: Bam, #20

MN IN: Bam and Derrick White
MN OUT: Randle, Naz, DDV, RD, #17, #31

PG: White-Conley
SG: Ant-Clark
SF: Jaden-TSJ
PF: Trade (from Rudy)-Miller
C: Bam-FA-Garza

[BlacJacMac]

Want to win a championship? Go big or go home. A Rudy trade for a starting PF follows.

Boston IN: DDV, RD, #17, #20
Boston OUT: White

Miami IN: Randle, Naz, #31
Miami OUT: Bam, #20

MN IN: Bam and Derrick White
MN OUT: Randle, Naz, DDV, RD, #17, #31

PG: White-Conley
SG: Ant-Clark
SF: Jaden-TSJ
PF: Trade (from Rudy)-Miller
C: Bam-FA-Garza

And at what point do we return Riley and Stevens to their families unharmed?