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NBA Draft Discussion Part 10

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Post#421 » by djsunyc » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:21 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:idk I still feel like we're gonna package #9 with RJ or IQ for a significant upgrade tonight.


that's a pretty sizeable package - really have no clue what that could get us.

maybe we break down rj or iq's contracts into 2 smaller ones with draft capital coming back as well. or maybe we add another salary and go after a high priced guy. really could result in anything.

my *gut* tells me that rj won't be here past the deadline b/c of what happened with og and pascal. if masai has no intentions of keeping you (unlike yak) then he won't let anyone on the team in the final year of their deal.

my guess is that nothing gets done tonight b/c there wasn't a perfect deal out there.
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Post#422 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:23 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:idk I still feel like we're gonna package #9 with RJ or IQ for a significant upgrade tonight.


that's a pretty sizeable package - really have no clue what that could get us.

maybe we break down rj or iq's contracts into 2 smaller ones with draft capital coming back as well. or maybe we add another salary and go after a high priced guy. really could result in anything.

my *gut* tells me that rj won't be here past the deadline b/c of what happened with og and pascal. if masai has no intentions of keeping you (unlike yak) then he won't let anyone on the team in the final year of their deal.

my guess is that nothing gets done tonight b/c there wasn't a perfect deal out there.


It really depends on who is available tonight at 9. If our target is no longer available but others may be had later, then thats when a trade will happen.
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Re: NBA Draft Discussion Part 10 

Post#423 » by Bruin » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:24 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:idk I still feel like we're gonna package #9 with RJ or IQ for a significant upgrade tonight.

Who would be a target for such an upgrade? Jaylen Brown? Would likely need to add more though

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Re: NBA Draft Discussion Part 10 

Post#424 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:25 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:idk I still feel like we're gonna package #9 with RJ or IQ for a significant upgrade tonight.

Who would be a target for such an upgrade? Jaylen Brown? Would likely need to add more though


Ya Idk maybe Garland? Sabonis? White?

Don't know what the FO is thinking.
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Post#425 » by niQ » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:25 pm

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Re: NBA Draft Discussion Part 10 

Post#426 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:27 pm

Essengue literally plays like a 6'10-11 Bruce Brown






That's not a diss because although some hate Bruce here because he didn't play well due to injury, when he was healthy for DEN and BKN, he was actually an incredibly important roleplayer. Nonetheless it's the same style of player just Noa is obv considerably taller/longer but what they do is cut well without the ball, drive in straight lines, gets out in transition and in general find the open spot on the court but their ballhandling is rudimentary and are mainly only capable of straight line drives.

I won't be mad per say about drafting Noa because of course we'll just have to trust our coaching staff to better develop him but I'm not all that thrilled by him tbh.
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Post#427 » by ItsDanger » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:28 pm

If Brad Stevens smoke is true, he sees someone in top 10 (probably back end) that has big upside. Wonder who it is.
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Post#429 » by Basketball_Jones » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:31 pm

ItsDanger wrote:If Brad Stevens smoke is true, he sees someone in top 10 (probably back end) that has big upside. Wonder who it is.


My guess is Maluach since Horford is really two years past expiry and Porzingis damaged goods.
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Re: NBA Draft Discussion Part 10 

Post#430 » by djsunyc » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:32 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:idk I still feel like we're gonna package #9 with RJ or IQ for a significant upgrade tonight.

Who would be a target for such an upgrade? Jaylen Brown? Would likely need to add more though

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part of me thinks that jaylen brown won't look that good being the #1 option so if they are entertaining thoughts of moving him, then maybe they are trying to cash in before his value dips a little.

more likely scenario are that teams are calling and boston is listening but not the proactive ones in this.
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Post#431 » by ItsDanger » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:33 pm

Kind of surprised Spurs aren't trading #2. Harper is not a good fit there. Maybe they surprise everyone.
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Re: NBA Draft Discussion Part 10 

Post#432 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:35 pm

djsunyc wrote:taking noa is a long term play and not a win now pick. it will take time with him - as with many others. i would be surprised if #9 plays more than 10 mins a game or even 50 games this season with the big club.


I think all of the options aren't going to help you this year. Most of these guys are 18/19 years old. How many rookies are actually net positives in their first year? Maybe Flagg can be. I wouldn't even bet on Harper being an efficient player. in his 1st year.
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Post#433 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:36 pm

ItsDanger wrote:If Brad Stevens smoke is true, he sees someone in top 10 (probably back end) that has big upside. Wonder who it is.



Apparently they like Kasparas J
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Post#434 » by grant101 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:38 pm

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Playing against grown professionals >>> majority of kids your age who won't sniff the professional ranks.


You’re kinda ignoring his point though. Pascal showed a lot of on ball skills and shot blocking/rebounding in college. This idea of him as a blanke slate project is just wrong.

Noa hasn’t shown anything to suggest he has that kind of upside. He get his points off of fast breaks and cuts to the basket (or when someone overplays a close out). Also, the professional league thing is overstated. The German league is not good and the players are on the small side. He’s not seeing the floor now that his team is playing one of the few decent teams in that league.


if we are using pascal as a comparison then you need to use freshman year pascal, not senior year.


My comp for him is Josh Minott. Similar frames (Josh is a little shorter and a touch broader), skill set, athleticism and wonky jump shot. Both among the youngest in their class, and both players that around draft time people projected development on without any basis on who they were as players. Minott may still become a decent player, but he’s at the end of his rookie contract and he hasn’t produced anything for the big club. But he was picked in the middle of the second round, where it’s fine to take the gamble.

Like another poster mentioned. If we’re hell bent on a high upside project, just trade back and take Beringer. I’m not sold on him, but at least he has all-defence level outcomes and an incredible frame.
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Re: NBA Draft Discussion Part 10 

Post#435 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:38 pm

I'd obv be willing to include 9 for Brown but would be pretty senseless imo to trade it for White since not only is he older but then we might as well just draft Carter Bryant (who's also bigger) to play a similar role and have long term control over.
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Post#436 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:39 pm

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djsunyc wrote:taking noa is a long term play and not a win now pick. it will take time with him - as with many others. i would be surprised if #9 plays more than 10 mins a game or even 50 games this season with the big club.


I think all of the options aren't going to help you this year. Most of these guys are 18/19 years old. How many rookies are actually net positives in their first year? Maybe Flagg can be. I wouldn't even bet on Harper being an efficient player. in his 1st year.


been saying this

it should not matter in the slightest where we are in our rebuild and what are plans are for next season

gotta project where these guys are 3-4 years

KM who everyone wants will struggle too

If Noa projects high quality player, you take him
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Post#437 » by MiamiSPX » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:39 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Kind of surprised Spurs aren't trading #2. Harper is not a good fit there. Maybe they surprise everyone.


Agreed. They can keep saying they are fine with Fox, Castle and Harper all on the floor together but i bet the actual players, and their agents, won't be happy with that. It would be very rare for a #2 pick rated this highly, not to start right off the bat.
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Post#438 » by djsunyc » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:40 pm

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djsunyc wrote:taking noa is a long term play and not a win now pick. it will take time with him - as with many others. i would be surprised if #9 plays more than 10 mins a game or even 50 games this season with the big club.


I think all of the options aren't going to help you this year. Most of these guys are 18/19 years old. How many rookies are actually net positives in their first year? Maybe Flagg can be. I wouldn't even bet on Harper being an efficient player. in his 1st year.


been saying this

it should not matter in the slightest where we are in our rebuild and what are plans are for next season

gotta project where these guys are 3-4 years

KM who everyone wants will struggle too

If Noa projects high quality player, you take him


and that's where luck plays a big part in things.
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Re: NBA Draft Discussion Part 10 

Post#439 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:41 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Kind of surprised Spurs aren't trading #2. Harper is not a good fit there. Maybe they surprise everyone.


Agreed. They can keep saying they are fine with Fox, Castle and Harper all on the floor together but i bet the actual players, and their agents, won't be happy with that. It would be very rare for a #2 pick rated this highly, not to start right off the bat.


They're going to shock the world and take Maluach and start the 8ft wonders of the world Wemby/Maluach.
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Post#440 » by MoneyBall » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:42 pm

Bruin wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:idk I still feel like we're gonna package #9 with RJ or IQ for a significant upgrade tonight.

Who would be a target for such an upgrade? Jaylen Brown? Would likely need to add more though

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