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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#701 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:24 pm

worthlessBucks wrote:Poor draft to have all those picks, nets.

Still think they get equal value by pushing it back to a future draft. At some point tonight, a Joan Beringer is going to fall to 19 and some mid-level team will be willing to give a top 10 protected 2026/7 pick to them.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#702 » by soxperry » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:32 pm

If the Celtics would actually trade White, do it and do it now.

You will never regret that
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#703 » by paulpressey25 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:31 pm

soxperry wrote:If the Celtics would actually trade White, do it and do it now.

You will never regret that


They understand how good Derrick White is. I'd say the Celtics are done at this point. They've save their $200 million and had to give up exactly zero real assets to dump those two contracts.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#704 » by Profound23 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:34 pm

Plossum wrote:The Tatum injury made the decisions easy for Boston. They were able to trade whatever limited value Jrue and Zinger had left. I wonder what would’ve happened if they made the finals again.



Which is why the NBA should've made it hard for them. Everyone knew they would have to at least unload KP and Jrue. The other teams should've held them to the fire and made them give up a bunch of future assets to get from under those contracts. Blazers move made no sense, at best Jrue keeps them from getting a top pick in the draft with a few more wins. Atlanta at least made a little bit of sense, but still Boston should have had to give up future unprotected firsts to move that contract of a player who is oft-injured or sick most of the time.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#705 » by Dick Tate » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:38 pm

worthlessBucks wrote:Poor draft to have all those picks, nets.

The Bucks could probably get two of them for their ‘31. :uhoh:
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#706 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:11 pm

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Plossum wrote:The Tatum injury made the decisions easy for Boston. They were able to trade whatever limited value Jrue and Zinger had left. I wonder what would’ve happened if they made the finals again.



Which is why the NBA should've made it hard for them. Everyone knew they would have to at least unload KP and Jrue. The other teams should've held them to the fire and made them give up a bunch of future assets to get from under those contracts. Blazers move made no sense, at best Jrue keeps them from getting a top pick in the draft with a few more wins. Atlanta at least made a little bit of sense, but still Boston should have had to give up future unprotected firsts to move that contract of a player who is oft-injured or sick most of the time.

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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#707 » by Licensed to Il » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:14 pm

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Plossum wrote:The Tatum injury made the decisions easy for Boston. They were able to trade whatever limited value Jrue and Zinger had left. I wonder what would’ve happened if they made the finals again.



Which is why the NBA should've made it hard for them. Everyone knew they would have to at least unload KP and Jrue. The other teams should've held them to the fire and made them give up a bunch of future assets to get from under those contracts. Blazers move made no sense, at best Jrue keeps them from getting a top pick in the draft with a few more wins. Atlanta at least made a little bit of sense, but still Boston should have had to give up future unprotected firsts to move that contract of a player who is oft-injured or sick most of the time.


What you are saying is collusion, and I’m not trying to be dramatic or appeal to the letter of the rules. Rather pointing out human nature, if 29 teams know that Boston has to sell cheap on guys in the trade market… it would take all 29 exhibiting discipline to punish Boston via the market price. But it only takes one GM desperate to keep his job to undermine that.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#708 » by DanoMac » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:15 pm

New contract for VanVleet. Assuming this will bury the Giannis to Houston talks for the time being, thankfully.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#709 » by Profound23 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:38 pm

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Plossum wrote:The Tatum injury made the decisions easy for Boston. They were able to trade whatever limited value Jrue and Zinger had left. I wonder what would’ve happened if they made the finals again.



Which is why the NBA should've made it hard for them. Everyone knew they would have to at least unload KP and Jrue. The other teams should've held them to the fire and made them give up a bunch of future assets to get from under those contracts. Blazers move made no sense, at best Jrue keeps them from getting a top pick in the draft with a few more wins. Atlanta at least made a little bit of sense, but still Boston should have had to give up future unprotected firsts to move that contract of a player who is oft-injured or sick most of the time.

"Everyone knew" but it only takes one.



Wish we found that one to unload Khris, instead of attaching AJJ to bring in one of the worst players in the league.
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Post#710 » by emunney » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:40 pm

The league needs to look at this FVV thing. Shady.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#711 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:40 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
soxperry wrote:If the Celtics would actually trade White, do it and do it now.

You will never regret that


They understand how good Derrick White is. I'd say the Celtics are done at this point. They've save their $200 million and had to give up exactly zero real assets to dump those two contracts.

Idk if they can't resign horford, I dont know if they are playoff team. They know what they have with JB. If they trade JB for a top 10 pick like some rumors out there and then tank for a year, they have a pretty clean slate to reload when Tatum comes back
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#712 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:44 pm

emunney wrote:The league needs to look at this FVV thing. Shady.

Why is it shady? If it was a PO, sure it would be shady, but the Rockets held the cards and its a fair deal.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#714 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:23 pm

Don't see the shady part of the FVV stuff. I don't think he gets $25 million on the open market. Probably an overpay on Houston's part.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#715 » by emunney » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:25 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
emunney wrote:The league needs to look at this FVV thing. Shady.

Why is it shady? If it was a PO, sure it would be shady, but the Rockets held the cards and its a fair deal.


Good call, I am tired and was thinking he had a PO.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#716 » by yb90 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:08 pm

How does a player like FVV shoot so poorly yet still remains a positive player?
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#717 » by Profound23 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:39 am

If you're drafted by Toronto, you lose so much money.

Toronto players pay a 53.5% tax. Plus certain things they buy, a player has to convert US dollars to Canadian money for a fee based on another %.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#718 » by tedbrogen » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:46 am

Profound23 wrote:If you're drafted by Toronto, you lose so much money.

Toronto players pay a 53.5% tax. Plus certain things they buy, a player has to convert US dollars to Canadian money for a fee based on another %.


Players on Cali teams will pay most of their salary in the 13.3% state tax bracket, 39.6% Fed bracket, 6.2% to SSN (although that’s capped pretty quick but does offset some of the initial lower brackets they burn through on state and federal), and 1.45% to Medicare. Let’s call it 54.35% tax rate.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#719 » by German Athens » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:02 am

I think Phoenix had a pretty good night, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up finishing higher in the west next year.

Mark is a damn good player.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie 3/$119 million extension 

Post#720 » by drew881 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:07 am

German Athens wrote:I think Phoenix had a pretty good night, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up finishing higher in the west next year.

Mark is a damn good player.

I think they are going to regret trading their 2029 first. Booker/Green could be tank city.

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