Options for This Offseason

[HiRez]

Since the play-in era began, the number of wins for the #6 seed have been 48 (equivalent), 48, 44, 49, 49.

So most seasons, you need 48-49 wins to secure a non-play-in spot. And I assume the Warriors really do not want to do the play-in again. 48 wins should be the goal at minimum.

[chococo]

Not sure if it can be done, but would love to have Jrue Holiday on our team. Now that the Blazers have him, maybe they would be interested in trading him away.

[vvoland]

Not sure if it can be done, but would love to have Jrue Holiday on our team. Now that the Blazers have him, maybe they would be interested in trading him away.

It would have to be either dray and another contract like jk, moody, or buddy or everyone not named steph, Jimmy, or dray. Both packages are too much for this version of jrue

[azwfan]

Just hoping for Beal buy out and sign with the dubs. If W’s sign him, I will commit here and now to watching at least 5 games next season - the 5 games he plays.

[statsman]

Just hoping for Beal buy out and sign with the dubs. If W’s sign him, I will commit here and now to watching at least 5 games next season - the 5 games he plays.

Why do people keep hoping for a Beal buyout? With his 2026-27 player option, Beal is owed $110M over the next two seasons. For a stretch waive buyout, the Suns would have $22M/season for the next FIVE seasons of dead cap space.

[Onus]

Just hoping for Beal buy out and sign with the dubs. If W’s sign him, I will commit here and now to watching at least 5 games next season - the 5 games he plays.

Why do people keep hoping for a Beal buyout? With his 2026-27 player option, Beal is owed $110M over the next two seasons. For a stretch waive buyout, the Suns would have $22M/season for the next FIVE seasons of dead cap space.

If they could just buy out Beal like some people have said wouldn't they just have kept KD?

[azwfan]

Just hoping for Beal buy out and sign with the dubs. If W’s sign him, I will commit here and now to watching at least 5 games next season - the 5 games he plays.

Why do people keep hoping for a Beal buyout? With his 2026-27 player option, Beal is owed $110M over the next two seasons. For a stretch waive buyout, the Suns would have $22M/season for the next FIVE seasons of dead cap space.

If they could just buy out Beal like some people have said wouldn't they just have kept KD?

They burned any bridge with KD when they tried to trade KD during the trade deadline.

The Suns are trying to trade Beal, and they would much rather do that than buy him out (obviously). But i suspect they will buy him out and highly reduce their tax bill, if they cant trade him.

[azwfan]

Just hoping for Beal buy out and sign with the dubs. If W’s sign him, I will commit here and now to watching at least 5 games next season - the 5 games he plays.

Why do people keep hoping for a Beal buyout? With his 2026-27 player option, Beal is owed $110M over the next two seasons. For a stretch waive buyout, the Suns would have $22M/season for the next FIVE seasons of dead cap space.

Yup. They owe Beal the 110m whether or not they buy him out. Right now there arent many folks in the Suns org that want him there. Their top 4-5(?) salaries are all SGs. Theyve been desperately trying to trade him since the trade deadline. They need to get off of his salary but if he’s not going to approve a trade, there isnt much else left to do besides buy him out. Even having him rot on the bench is a terrible option due to luxury tax. They f’d up. So yes, I hope.

[floppymoose]

Khaman Maluach and Thomas Sorber were the two players drafted with the picks we would have had if we gad not traded for Butler, and had moved Steph to HOU. JK and Jalen Green would be reunited to lead the tank.

[vvoland]

Khaman Maluach and Thomas Sorber were the two players drafted with the picks we would have had if we gad not traded for Butler, and had moved Steph to HOU. JK and Jalen Green would be reunited to lead the tank.

I have a feeling this may not age well. Ok, sure, you want to trade steph to accelerate the tank. Fine. For THAT package? I shudder at the thought..

[vvoland]

Just hoping for Beal buy out and sign with the dubs. If W’s sign him, I will commit here and now to watching at least 5 games next season - the 5 games he plays.

Why do people keep hoping for a Beal buyout? With his 2026-27 player option, Beal is owed $110M over the next two seasons. For a stretch waive buyout, the Suns would have $22M/season for the next FIVE seasons of dead cap space.

There are rules about how much dead money you can have on your books (i heard 15% from vecenie) so I'm not sure it's even possible as the suns already have a few buyout guys they're paying

[statsman]

Just hoping for Beal buy out and sign with the dubs. If W’s sign him, I will commit here and now to watching at least 5 games next season - the 5 games he plays.

Why do people keep hoping for a Beal buyout? With his 2026-27 player option, Beal is owed $110M over the next two seasons. For a stretch waive buyout, the Suns would have $22M/season for the next FIVE seasons of dead cap space.

There are rules about how much dead money you can have on your books (i heard 15% from vecenie) so I'm not sure it's even possible as the suns already have a few buyout guys they're paying

Yep, I forgot about the 15% of cap limit for stretch-waived players. Unless Beal took less than the full amount of his contract (When is the last time we've seen that happen? Is that even allowed anymore?), the Suns are stuck.

[xdrta+]

Why do people keep hoping for a Beal buyout? With his 2026-27 player option, Beal is owed $110M over the next two seasons. For a stretch waive buyout, the Suns would have $22M/season for the next FIVE seasons of dead cap space.

There are rules about how much dead money you can have on your books (i heard 15% from vecenie) so I'm not sure it's even possible as the suns already have a few buyout guys they're paying

Yep, I forgot about the 15% of cap limit for stretch-waived players. Unless Beal took less than the full amount of his contract (When is the last time we've seen that happen? Is that even allowed anymore?), the Suns are stuck.

He'd have to take a cut from about $110M to about $92M in order for the Suns to be able to stretch him. A year from now they could easily waive him and stretch his final year's salary.

[azwfan]

There are rules about how much dead money you can have on your books (i heard 15% from vecenie) so I'm not sure it's even possible as the suns already have a few buyout guys they're paying

Yep, I forgot about the 15% of cap limit for stretch-waived players. Unless Beal took less than the full amount of his contract (When is the last time we've seen that happen? Is that even allowed anymore?), the Suns are stuck.

He'd have to take a cut from about $110M to about $92M in order for the Suns to be able to stretch him. A year from now they could easily waive him and stretch his final year's salary.

So at the tax payer MLE, we’d only be able to give him ~9m over those two seasons (4.5m per?). So a team committing to sign him would need the full MLE. Guess he wont be coming to gsw.

[floppymoose]

Khaman Maluach and Thomas Sorber were the two players drafted with the picks we would have had if we gad not traded for Butler, and had moved Steph to HOU. JK and Jalen Green would be reunited to lead the tank.

I have a feeling this may not age well. Ok, sure, you want to trade steph to accelerate the tank. Fine. For THAT package? I shudder at the thought..

I'm not trying to make any claims about those players. I dont know this draft class at all. It's more a simple fact than opinion. We would have had picks in those ranges. And perhaps more if we had moved Wiggins for crap + pick.

[azwfan]

Khaman Maluach and Thomas Sorber were the two players drafted with the picks we would have had if we gad not traded for Butler, and had moved Steph to HOU. JK and Jalen Green would be reunited to lead the tank.

I have a feeling this may not age well. Ok, sure, you want to trade steph to accelerate the tank. Fine. For THAT package? I shudder at the thought..

I'm not trying to make any claims about those players. I dont know this draft class at all. It's more a simple fact than opinion. We would have had picks in those ranges. And perhaps more if we had moved Wiggins for crap + pick.

W’s could have ended up with Cooper Flagg for all we know. No way W’s make the playoffs if they traded Steph.

[Jester_]

Khaman Maluach and Thomas Sorber were the two players drafted with the picks we would have had if we gad not traded for Butler, and had moved Steph to HOU. JK and Jalen Green would be reunited to lead the tank.

I have a feeling this may not age well. Ok, sure, you want to trade steph to accelerate the tank. Fine. For THAT package? I shudder at the thought..

Lol completely agreed. When you put it that way, the "blow it up" argument looks particularly bad.

Draft picks in general are really overrated.

[floppymoose]

[vvoland]

Absolutely. If we want the #7 pick because we found the next steph, we can acquire it pretty easily (future 1st is what it cost Minny last year). That first part, the finding steph part, is the difficult one.

[whatisacenter]

Khaman Maluach and Thomas Sorber were the two players drafted with the picks we would have had if we gad not traded for Butler, and had moved Steph to HOU. JK and Jalen Green would be reunited to lead the tank.

I think you just lost your argument to yourself.....