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2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#461 » by The Corey's » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:56 pm

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44 wins could be right. The thing is it probably gets you in consideration for 4-6 seed because the East is beat up with injuries. If Tatum does come back then this roster has a shot. Again it all depends on him and you could have a situation where Brown takes that next step and becomes the 1 option. It’s all logical and possible. However if you’re going to tear it down it’s not logical to do it now. Wait until Tatum is healthy and assess from there. Otherwise you’re going to be trading someone who is pissed off about being in a rebuild and rushing back from his injury, thus diminishing returns.



This team is WORSE next year, even if Tatum comes back healthy and ready for a deep playoff run.

They struggled against the Magic and lost to the Knicks.

Sorry I'm not all that hyped about being one of the dudes with the lottery ticket and maybe just maybe the numbers come out our way and we make it to the finals and get mopped by the thunder.

Lets focus on the reality. The Celtics with the Jays have historically underperformed, outside of one year. That is going to continue now that they lost all their depth.


Sure. Last year they were completely banged up, before then you had a bonehead culture led by Captain Marcus and Admiral Williams.


They're not good enough and deep enough and I don't think that's a controversial take.
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Post#462 » by celticgreenie » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:02 pm

I could be talked into Quickley and Markannen and some good draft compensation in place of White and Brown.
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Post#463 » by MSTRJMES » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:03 pm

Jaylen Brown or D.White to SA only for #2, #14, future picks + Castle and filler.
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Post#464 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:04 pm

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5 FRP


That's not a great deal for the C's, imo. Regardless of Brown's contract, he's an established guy. The Magic just paid 4 FRPs for a guy who's done nothing in the league and is 3 years younger.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#465 » by fallguy » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:04 pm

celticgreenie wrote:I could be talked into Quickley and Markannen and some good draft compensation in place of White and Brown.


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Post#466 » by fallguy » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:05 pm

MSTRJMES wrote:Jaylen Brown or D.White to SA only for #2, #14, future picks + Castle and filler.


This is probably what they're targeting. Cannot imagine SA does it though.
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Post#467 » by DarkAzcura » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:11 pm

I still can’t fathom why the Spurs would ever trade for Brown. I don’t know the huge rush to contend immediately but maybe Wemby is making demands in the background. I dunno
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Post#469 » by celtxman » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:14 pm

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Yes Simons is a superior offensive player. That's why I think he could theoritically bring us a quality big.

Also, how would a PP and Simons backcourt combination look defensively?

I'd rather keep Simons, but Brad must draft a good big tonight (and there are a few options in our range), or trade for one. I'd be pissed if we go into next year with Kornet/Al/Queta at the 5.

And this is the heart of trading KP. What made it essential to trade right now? It's awesome that Bill Chisholm is hard capped. His accountants are thrilled! I'm very happy for him. As fans we are counting on the process to include getting much better at PF and C. Today we are worse.. There is certainly a grace period to get better, championship ready bigs. Is by the trade deadline fair? I distinctly remember Chisholm saying his plan was to keep winning championships. I don't need to see it today. But I will need to see it

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Post#470 » by FlatearthZorro » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:14 pm

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The Spurs are doing weird stuff, although it could be posturing.
If they indeed select Harper, and keep him and not trade for Giannis or whoever, I think the stock of the player could dramatically drop(in-season performance) and hurt their chances at Giannis. That's just my assumption, I feel as if draft picks hold more value than the actual player in their rookie year.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#471 » by SparringPartner » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:14 pm

Ben-N1ce wrote:Love White but trade him for 2nd pick and Draft Harper as PG of the future. Doubt SA would do it but they already have a PG.


The right moves, imo, that are "realistic," are JB to SAS, and D.White to HOU
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#472 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:17 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:I really hope they don't trade Brown or White... they slashed so much salary already and left themselves with much less costly (basketball wise) avenues to shed more. I understand the allure of restocking things completely asset wise but I'd just rather not tear it down.

Look... Giannis seems like he'll ask out eventually. OKC eventually has to trade someone. CLE probably breaks it up if they don't get over the hump eventually. So on and so forth. I don't buy this total doomsday scenario some people here push that they won't ever have a good team around Tatum if they trade Brown/White. You get hauls of young players/picks and eventually Stevens will trade them for star(s) if they don't become them on their own. I'm like 95% sure of it. But I don't want to stomach that 5%. Team's already really, really good core. They have the flexibility to keep all of Tatum/Brown/White/Hauser/Pritchard for their deals and all of their 1st rounders while ducking the tax this year and next. It's already a great starting point, no need to tear it down further IMO.


Amen, that's not the Celtic way either. we believe in culture as much as anything. You don't build culture by tearing teams down and rebuilding. You do that when you are desperate or you post on realgm


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Post#473 » by redslastlaugh » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:17 pm

From the Raptors perspective they are surely wanting, in addition to them getting Derrick White, for us to be taking RJ Barrett or Quickley off their hands. Barrett's rep as a desirable NBA player seems to be losing ground fast. And Quickley, aside from being often hurt, is on one of the worst contracts in the nba in both dollars & years

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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#474 » by BillessuR6 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:20 pm

Can we afford two supermax guys going forward? They are going to make 120+ mio in a couple of years...

I would say it is extremely difficult to build a contender with only two guys making that much money... unless they are both top 10 players...

That is why I would trade JB and not White...

But only for a huge offer like a top 3 pick, multiple future picks and good young players...

So, a trade to SA for 2+14+picks+players I would do.

The rumor to Utah? 5th pick has a lot less value in this draft, IMO. Who would we pick? And the only young guy who is interesting is Kessler...

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Post#475 » by fallguy » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:20 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:From the Raptors perspective they are surely wanting, in addition to them getting Derrick White, for us to be taking RJ Barrett or Quickley off their hands. Barrett's rep as a desirable NBA player seems to be losing ground fast. And Quickley, aside from being often hurt, is on one of the worst contracts in the nba in both dollars & years

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ZERO interest in either of those duds.
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Post#476 » by SparringPartner » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:23 pm

WeLikeOurGuys wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:ugghh all around.
dont want to trade JB
dont want to do it for #5 and assorted pennies and nickels on that jazz roster



The only deal that should demand Brad's attention would be if SAS called. That's about it. I think it makes too much sense for both teams for it to happen. :lol: 8-)

If Brad could fleece the Jazz, I'd absolutely entertain trading JB to Utah. Their roster isn't great — even with Markkanen and Brown, I'm not sure they make the playoffs out West.

I'm talking about the 5th pick, the 21st pick, a bunch of future first-rounders, and Cody Williams/Salary filler


Jazz do not have enough to get JB imo
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Post#477 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:25 pm

If Toronto takes Kaspar The Friendly Basketball Player at 9, then a White trade is probably in the works...
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#478 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:29 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:If Toronto takes Kaspar The Friendly Basketball Player at 9, then a White trade is probably in the works...


Here’s the thing about this draft. This is the one draft where you could probably get someone with the 6th pick and justify taking that person at 15-17. There really isn’t much to differentiate between those spots which is why Brooklyn is so **** if they don’t trade out to next year with at least a couple. Like yeah you have 5 1st rounders but if three of them have the value of a 2nd rounder in a deep draft then you’re just paying for the right to guarantee a contract.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#479 » by SparringPartner » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:29 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
165bows wrote:
CelticFaninLBC wrote:What does Pritchard and Hauser get thêm in a trade?

Worse or more expensive players, really.

Pomp would generate insane interest. Hauser they can get a first rounder or more from a title contender. They gotta add assets and cut salaries with Hauser .

PP? I just think you keep him.


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Hauser & Pritchard are both 27 and do not rely on athleticism to impact winning. They are both on AMAZING contracts. They should stay for JT's return.

Trade White & Brown, reset financially, tank next year. Watch PP run a team of youngsters, plenty of entertainment for everyone.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition) 

Post#480 » by Dogen » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:29 pm

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celtxman wrote:And this is the heart of trading KP. What made it essential to trade right now? It's awesome that Bill Chisholm is hard capped. His accountants are thrilled! I'm very happy for him. As fans we are counting on the process to include getting much better at PF and C. Today we are worse.. There is certainly a grace period to get better, championship ready bigs. Is by the trade deadline fair? I distinctly remember Chisholm saying his plan was to keep winning championships. I don't need to see it today. But I will need to see it

You'll see it 15-16 years from now. :lol:

Are you sure? I'm still waiting for Jajuan Johnson(JJJ) and Nenad Krstic to replace Kendrick Perkins. That was about 15 years ago. Anything on Wiretap on this today?` 8-) :lol:


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