NBA Draft Discussion Part 10

[ATLTimekeeper]

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Masai calling the shots for Mogbo and Shead

Who is the dude with the glasses who called in Mogbo? He looked like he lost the argument

[WuTang_CMB]

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[junot111]

I would take that d. white deal in a heartbeat

[PhilBlackson]

i dont get why so many scouts have BKN taking Maluach, they have more pressing needs and they already have Claxton

Was just about to post something like this. If New Orleans passes on him, I think we take him at 9. They're going guard or wing I think.

I think the rumours are that they'll trade Claxton. But I agree, I think their top priority should be a point guard.

I don't think any particular position should be a "priority" per say.

I get that in all likelihood the true BPA would likely be a PG ie/ Fears or Jak buuut their existing players should play little to no effect on their drafting decisions. Because it's highly unlikely ANY of those guys will still be around in a couple of years or so.

So imo it's BPA (period).

ie/ if Tre Johnson happened to be the player that drops, they should take him - doesn't matter if they could use a PG. Right now they just need to load up on the best talent available and start prioritizing different positions in a few years from now once they see who sticks and who doesn't. But again if BPA is a PG then yes they should take that player but there just not in a position where they should be factoring roster "need" into the equation imo.

[OakleyDokely]

i dont get why so many scouts have BKN taking Maluach, they have more pressing needs and they already have Claxton

Nets don't have pressing needs. They are going to be running the tank back.

BPA

The Nets have needs everywhere and they won't let an average player like Claxton get in the way of taking BPA

[OakleyDokely]

BRK should just spam the draft with their 5 firsts

take swings

they need to build a foundation

#8 - Maluach
#19 - Traore
#22 - Fleming
#26 - Richardson
#27 - McNeeley


They can draft an entire bench unit.

C Maluach
F Fleming
F McNeely
G Richardson
G Traore

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Quickley
White
Ingram
Barnes
Poeltl

It's decent, but they are relying a lot on Ingram imo, dude has not topped 5.3 WS in his career, his best is .120 WS/48, and Scottish Barnes has been trending downward since his rookie season.

And Quickley was a complete non-factor last season in his first season as a starting PG, he's also an unknown at that position.

[WuTang_CMB]

[niQ]

Super small sample but Nets board like Essengue for his potential: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2462888

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Super small sample but Nets board like Essengue for his potential: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2462888

Good, hope they take him at 8.

[artsncrafts]

Essengue seems like a Bruno type reach. At 20 its okay. I assume Masai does his due diligence though as a lot more is riding at #9 than #20.

[dhackett1565]

I'd be very happy with one of Maluach, Essengue or Carter, at least two of which should be on the board at 9, or someone majorly slips.

[Woodman19]

I'm all in on Essengue, this is the swing for the fences player who might turn out being one of the best players when it's all said and done, provided you trust our ability to develop the scoring and defensive game. The raw athleticism, size and work ethic are there

[SpezNc]

celtics also gave up a swap in 2028 to the spurs.

white is not a bad contract - they would still have to take back rj so we be "dumping" that deal onto them.

there's is no one missing piece. it's just another move in a series of moves. we won't be hamstrung in making other deals over the next year or two either.

the question to ask is in the 27/28 season, would you rather be paying $30+ mil to rj or white.

RJ has 2 years left on his deal and makes $27M/year. He put up an efficient 21/6/5 last season and is 6 years younger than White. I'm not even sure I'd trade him straight up for White when you factor the age, let alone use the 9th pick to "dump" him. The Barrett hate here has gotten irrational. If we're trading him with assets and picks, I'm expecting a big return. He's not Paul George where we need to use a pick to dump his contract.

Not trading RJ for White?

It’s more the fact we probably would have to surrender pick #9 and maybe even more .

It’s probably RJ , Pick #9 + another asset like Agbaji for Derick White.

White should be the ultimate championship final piece. We aren’t there yet !

While it’s exciting and fun to be in all the rumours, I don’t understand the urgency to compete now at all cost. I guess Edward Rogers is putting max pressure to Bobby/Masai .

It’s also possible it’s just noise ! I hope it’s just noise !

[Basketball_Jones]

I think it’s telling we haven’t heard Carter Bryant workout for anybody. He’s a guy that has very little data to go off of and is mainly built on reputation. They likely felt his stock might take a hit. I’d be cool with him because at least he can shoot and defend, that’s proven. But wouldn’t have high hopes for much else.

[ItsDanger]

Tanking all season to end up taking Essengue would be a major letdown.

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Essengue seems like a Bruno type reach. At 20 its okay. I assume Masai does his due diligence though as a lot more is riding at #9 than #20.

Give me a break, Bruno was hardly getting minutes in a second tier Brazilian league. Essengue is getting minutes against Eu roCup and Euroleague teams. Maybe we can do better at #9 than Essengue, but there is absolutely no using Bruno as a comp for him.

[nowayguy]

Essengue seems like a Bruno type reach. At 20 its okay. I assume Masai does his due diligence though as a lot more is riding at #9 than #20.

Givony's latest rankings, which takes into account opinions from scouts and front offices, has Essengue at 9. I think it's fairly safe to say NBA teams wouldn't view it as a reach.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I think it’s telling we haven’t heard Carter Bryant workout for anybody. He’s a guy that has very little data to go off of and is mainly built on reputation. They likely felt his stock might take a hit. I’d be cool with him because at least he can shoot and defend, that’s proven. But wouldn’t have high hopes for much else.

He worked out for the Bulls, probably got a promise and shut it down. This is one of the worst run teams in the league and they would very much do this.

[MavCarter]

Essengue seems like a Bruno type reach. At 20 its okay. I assume Masai does his due diligence though as a lot more is riding at #9 than #20.

Essengue is a contributor on a pro team filled with grown men at 18. Bruno barely knew how to play basketball when we drafted him at 18. I dont understand how people are down on essengue for being a project but at the same time want carter bryant who's going to be 20 going into the season and avg'd 6/4/1 in college. He's also a project hes just 2 years older