2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[FrodoFraggins]

So the Jrue trade was surprising in how much salary he took back, but maybe he felt like he would take care of that with the KP trade. KP having no value wasn't a shock and I think a certain amount of homerism is in play for people thinking Brad got fleeced.

Brad's not dumb enough to blow the team up just because Tatum's out most or all of the season. And I don't see any team making crazy offers for JB or DW.

And maybe Brad will see how out of his depth Mazzula is next year and look for a replacement.

[Shak_Celts]

So the Jrue trade was surprising in how much salary he took back, but maybe he felt like he would take care of that with the KP trade. KP having no value wasn't a shock and I think a certain amount of homerism is in play for people thinking Brad got fleeced.

Brad's not dumb enough to blow the team up just because Tatum's out most or all of the season. And I don't see any team making crazy offers for JB or DW.

And maybe Brad will see how out of his depth Mazzula is next year and look for a replacement.

Shams said they were already getting crazy offers. How crazy does Brad need it to be is the question.

[Larry_Russell]

That deal is awful and Brad would be asking for #2/#14/Castle and all of the future picks and none of that crap long term salary.

My guess is Spurs really do want to trade the pick because of either fit or talent or both and their problem is the possible available players are either too good they aren't ready yet (Jokic/Giannis) or not that good (Garland/KAT) and a bad fit.

Spurs wish Celtics would solve their guard problem and Brad has said sure give us the key to the house and we will just take whatever we please or get lost.

Spurs need Castle.

I don't believe JB's going to be traded, but if it's to the Spurs, my package would be the most practical.

Vassell and Keldon will ensure we have depth at the wing position.

Getting Castle will cause a log jam at the Guard spot with White, PP, Simons, and Castle.

Castle isn't a log jan. That is Simons on the bench.


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Or simons aomewhere else. Maybe for a center

[phincsfan]

So the Jrue trade was surprising in how much salary he took back, but maybe he felt like he would take care of that with the KP trade. KP having no value wasn't a shock and I think a certain amount of homerism is in play for people thinking Brad got fleeced.

Brad's not dumb enough to blow the team up just because Tatum's out most or all of the season. And I don't see any team making crazy offers for JB or DW.

And maybe Brad will see how out of his depth Mazzula is next year and look for a replacement.

JB and White are better than Bane. It comes down to a teams fit and what they're willing to trade in order to be a stronger contender.

Toronto, Spurs, Wolves are teams that can get better if they find that right fit. Doesn't mean White and JB are those fits, it just means if there is a player who can get them to a different level they may be willing to trade a haul.

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[phincsfan]

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Memphis has room and could use a shooter. I'd take Konchar and 16 for Sam.

Combine 16 and 28 and move into the lottery sounds good

[phincsfan]

I want Sorber in Boston

[hugepatsfan]

Tatum is out for next year. Maaaaaaybe he comes back late in the year/for the playoffs but can't expect much. Realistically, the injury shut them out of contention in 25-26 season. Looking ahead to 26-27 season, Porzingis wasn't even under contract and he'll be a 31 year old injury prone player who's never had a healthy playoff run. Jrue would be in his age 36 season and while I think the talk of his decline have been absurdly overstated, you do have to think it will actually be coming at some point. People talk about "blowing it up" here, but I'm not sure they've traded away a single piece that would be overly positive to the next time Tatum is even truly available for a title run. Maybe Jrue keeps staving off decline but that's a question mark.

The Celtics right now are $29.9M below the tax for 26-27 with 10 players already signed (including their 2 picks tonight/tomorrow). For this year, they're $16.7M over the tax line right now and that's with $35.9M of expiring salary between Simons/Niang... I think they can probably trim that down to below the tax without including any future 1sts (probably need to use 2nds though). That allows them to keep Tatum/Brown/White/Hauser/Pritchard and all of their 1st round picks. Those are the pieces, IMO, that are going to contribute positively to their next "window" to win.

Obviously they made their team worse, but I don't think they've actually done anything to harm a real shot at having a title contending team for them since Tatum is out this year.

[Shak_Celts]

How many bad teams are paying the tax? I hope the answer is none, because what in heck are they doing?! I’m trying to figure something out about the monies.

[Larry_Russell]

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No ****

[Celtics_Champs]

How connected is Bulpett to Stevens and company? I remember he was Ainges personal wet blanket when he was at the Herald.

If he’s still connected I wonder if Brad is holding onto Hauser hoping Kasparas slides and then Brad can package Hauser and picks to a team like the Bulls for the 12th pick.

[Larry_Russell]

Putting it all together


This would take me 5 minutes to read.. If I cn.. while On my phone...

I got you. Castle instead of Vessell because I think he's a better fit with a Fox/JB backcourt.

BOS
In: John Collins, Jabari Smith, Reed Sheppard, Stephen Castle, Cam Whitmore, 2025 #3, 2025 #5, 2027 PHX 1st, 2027 BRK 1st Swap, 2029 PHX 1st Swap
Out: JB, D.White

PHI
In: Lauri Markkanen, Harrison Barnes
Out: 2025 #3, Paul George, Andre Dru

HOU
In: D.White
Out: Jabari Smith, Reed Sheppard, Cam Whitmore, 2027 PHX 1st, 2027 BRL 1st Swap, 2029 PHX 1st Swap

SAS
In: JB
Out: Harrison Barnes, Kelden Johnson, Stephen Castle, 2025 #2

UTH
In: Paul George, Kelden Johnson, Andre Dru, Nate Williams, 2025 #2
Out: Lauri Markkanen, John Collins, 2025 #5

Too good for Philly.
Moving up and dumping george at same time. They should get nonpick back at all.

[The Corey's]

How connected is Bulpett to Stevens and company? I remember he was Ainges personal wet blanket when he was at the Herald.

If he’s still connected I wonder if Brad is holding onto Hauser hoping Kasparas slides and then Brad can package Hauser and picks to a team like the Bulls for the 12th pick.

The Celtics ain't doing **** tonight. Probably draft a guy who will never amount to anything and call it a day.

[bfchs123]

So the Jrue trade was surprising in how much salary he took back, but maybe he felt like he would take care of that with the KP trade. KP having no value wasn't a shock and I think a certain amount of homerism is in play for people thinking Brad got fleeced.

Brad's not dumb enough to blow the team up just because Tatum's out most or all of the season. And I don't see any team making crazy offers for JB or DW.

And maybe Brad will see how out of his depth Mazzula is next year and look for a replacement.

I think people underestimate how much value ~$22 million of cap space / savings is worth in the current environment where the Nets were one of (or the only?) team that could even pull something like this off. It was always somewhat this way but with the new penalties, it will take a good amount of value to move off salary, especially when you're trading for pure space and not smaller amounts / duration.

[Celtics_Champs]

How connected is Bulpett to Stevens and company? I remember he was Ainges personal wet blanket when he was at the Herald.

If he’s still connected I wonder if Brad is holding onto Hauser hoping Kasparas slides and then Brad can package Hauser and picks to a team like the Bulls for the 12th pick.

The Celtics ain't doing **** tonight. Probably draft a guy who will never amount to anything and call it a day.

Ah, cool. Wanna talk about the weather? It’s hot today but not as bad as yesterday.

[Larry_Russell]

How connected is Bulpett to Stevens and company? I remember he was Ainges personal wet blanket when he was at the Herald.

If he’s still connected I wonder if Brad is holding onto Hauser hoping Kasparas slides and then Brad can package Hauser and picks to a team like the Bulls for the 12th pick.

The Celtics ain't doing **** tonight. Probably draft a guy who will never amount to anything and call it a day.

Draft a guy that has **** of contributing by year 2 and trade him to a different team who trains and teaches him amd they have a role player the celtics wish they had.

[SparringPartner]

I got you. Castle instead of Vessell because I think he's a better fit with a Fox/JB backcourt.

BOS
In: John Collins, Jabari Smith, Reed Sheppard, Stephen Castle, Cam Whitmore, 2025 #3, 2025 #5, 2027 PHX 1st, 2027 BRK 1st Swap, 2029 PHX 1st Swap
Out: JB, D.White

PHI
In: Lauri Markkanen, Harrison Barnes
Out: 2025 #3, Paul George, Andre Dru

HOU
In: D.White
Out: Jabari Smith, Reed Sheppard, Cam Whitmore, 2027 PHX 1st, 2027 BRL 1st Swap, 2029 PHX 1st Swap

SAS
In: JB
Out: Harrison Barnes, Kelden Johnson, Stephen Castle, 2025 #2

UTH
In: Paul George, Kelden Johnson, Andre Dru, Nate Williams, 2025 #2
Out: Lauri Markkanen, John Collins, 2025 #5

Too good for Philly.
Moving up and dumping george at same time. They should get nonpick back at all.

PHI gets Markkanen, Barnes

They receive no pick

[SparringPartner]

How connected is Bulpett to Stevens and company? I remember he was Ainges personal wet blanket when he was at the Herald.

If he’s still connected I wonder if Brad is holding onto Hauser hoping Kasparas slides and then Brad can package Hauser and picks to a team like the Bulls for the 12th pick.

My guess is "Wet Blanket" is still connected to the Ainge's

[Shak_Celts]

If we clear the deck, these owners better be sure they can get some good product out there quickly. They will be losing money if not. No one’s jersey will be selling, tickets will need to be cheaper, low viewership, etc.

Celtics can probably survive for a while, but I’m not so sure, times aren’t like 20 years ago. People have too much media to consume instead. There are also a lot of young teams with good players that win, I think it’s easier for young people to jump from team to team now when something shiny catches their eyes.

[RickyDizzle]

For this Raptors rumor, what if we did:

D White & Tillman To Raptors
Simons, #28, and a Raptors 2nd to Brooklyn
#9 this year, Raptors 2027 1st, Poeltl and Cam Johnson to Boston

End up with:

Pritchard
Brown
Cam Johnson
Horford? Niang?
Poeltl

#9

... obviously with Tatum coming coming back eventually.