2025 Offseason Trade and Free Agency Thread (The Fun Never Stops Edition)

[themoneyteam2]

Well if you listen to dhak and the rest of them he's coming back in March and giving us that boost for the playoffs, bud..

If you're going to embarrass your self at least make the effort follow the thread.

Idk who "dhak and the rest of them" are. But sure, it would be great if he comes back.

You clearly don't seem to believe he will though, so hence why your post makes no sense.

Anyways, how about you stop trying to derail the thread since you're in your feels when I simply ask what value you bring to this board?

I'm still waiting for this magical post you claimed I produced.

And Im glad you admitted right in your first sentence that you don't know. That was very beta of you. Thank you.

Yes because I'm going to go waste my time searching your post history? And then once I find it you'll somehow try to discredit lol

I'm not in the business of derailing the thread and arguing with a middle schooler. "That was very beta of you" - are we in 6th grade, buddy?

[redslastlaugh]

11:50 - 14:40
any signs of a Celtics trade up? I asked a scout and got an emphatic "no" ... the names I'm hearing: Kalkbrenner, Penda, Rasheer Fleming

Watch on YouTube

[SparringPartner]

First Apron ($178.132M)
If a team’s payroll is above this:

The team is hard-capped at the first apron (cannot go above it) if it uses certain exceptions (like the non-taxpayer mid-level exception or sign-and-trade to acquire a player).
No direct tax penalty at this level—just significant restrictions on roster-building:
Cannot use the full mid-level exception.
Cannot take in more salary than it sends out in trades.
Cannot sign players via sign-and-trade.
Cannot sign waived players making $12.4M+.
Team still pays standard luxury tax if above tax line.

Second Apron ($188.931M)
If a team’s payroll is above this:

Even stricter roster-building rules—still no direct “second apron tax” per se, but additional limits:
Can’t use any mid-level exception.
Can’t aggregate salaries in trades.
Can’t trade for a player making more than what you send out.
Can’t trade a future first-round pick seven years out.
Can’t include cash in trades.
Multi-team trades are heavily restricted.

Team continues to pay standard (or repeater) luxury tax for every dollar above the tax line.

[themoneyteam2]

Actually. That's my point, full stop and 100% emphatically stated.

Blowing up your roster to save money against the tax does not mean you get flowers for making the playoffs and winning a round or two.

The Jays are in their championship window and not winning it is a complete waste of time.

This is the **** I mean with the green teamers. You don't live in the real world.

There isn't a single **** scenario where I applaud the Celtics for making the playoffs. None. Let's get that out the way now.

Congratulations, your applause or lack thereof is what keeps Brad up at night.

We do not care if you think it’s a complete waste of time! Only one team wins every season. Celtics have won 2 times in the last 40-ish years. That’s facts over feelings. We can do EVERYTHING you say and still always lose in the playoffs! Do everything you think is genius and still come out no better than the jays! You think you’re some Nostradamus? Most of the Celtics history has been a waste of time to you, huh? 18 chips out of 79 years!

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

With JT out for the year they don't have championship hopes. So, not sure how 2nd round would be a low bar.

If you are going to troll, do better, bud. Or while you're at it go outside and touch grass.

[The Corey's]

Idk who "dhak and the rest of them" are. But sure, it would be great if he comes back.

You clearly don't seem to believe he will though, so hence why your post makes no sense.

Anyways, how about you stop trying to derail the thread since you're in your feels when I simply ask what value you bring to this board?

I'm still waiting for this magical post you claimed I produced.

And Im glad you admitted right in your first sentence that you don't know. That was very beta of you. Thank you.

Yes because I'm going to go waste my time searching your post history? And then once I find it you'll somehow try to discredit lol

I'm not in the business of derailing the thread and arguing with a middle schooler. "That was very beta of you" - are we in 6th grade, buddy?

Your gaslighting might get you through your regular life but it doesn't work on me, buddy. Lololol.

You make bold proclamations about me and refuse to back it up and yet in wasting your time lololoolol.

Rent free.

[themoneyteam2]

I'm still waiting for this magical post you claimed I produced.

And Im glad you admitted right in your first sentence that you don't know. That was very beta of you. Thank you.

Yes because I'm going to go waste my time searching your post history? And then once I find it you'll somehow try to discredit lol

I'm not in the business of derailing the thread and arguing with a middle schooler. "That was very beta of you" - are we in 6th grade, buddy?

Your gaslighting might get you through your regular life but it doesn't work on me, buddy. Lololol.

You make bold proclamations about me and refuse to back it up and yet in wasting your time lololoolol.

Rent free.

Sorry i'm losing brain cells reading your replies. Try not to derail the thread and act like an adult...

And oh, that's not what gaslighting is but nice try lmao. Holy $hit you're bad at this LMAOOO

[The Corey's]

Congratulations, your applause or lack thereof is what keeps Brad up at night.

We do not care if you think it’s a complete waste of time! Only one team wins every season. Celtics have won 2 times in the last 40-ish years. That’s facts over feelings. We can do EVERYTHING you say and still always lose in the playoffs! Do everything you think is genius and still come out no better than the jays! You think you’re some Nostradamus? Most of the Celtics history has been a waste of time to you, huh? 18 chips out of 79 years!

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

With JT out for the year they don't have championship hopes. So, not sure how 2nd round would be a low bar.

If you are going to troll, do better, bud. Or while you're at it go outside and touch grass.

Shak is the one who said Tatum wasn't out for the season.

Take a moment and comprehend what you're reading before you rush in here and try and slam dunk all over me.

My expectations next year is they aren't doing ****. Which they will most definitely meet, it's shak who has unrealistic expectations.

I'm not the one who thinks they're winning the title hahahahahahah

[Shak_Celts]

Actually. That's my point, full stop and 100% emphatically stated.

Blowing up your roster to save money against the tax does not mean you get flowers for making the playoffs and winning a round or two.

The Jays are in their championship window and not winning it is a complete waste of time.

This is the **** I mean with the green teamers. You don't live in the real world.

There isn't a single **** scenario where I applaud the Celtics for making the playoffs. None. Let's get that out the way now.

Congratulations, your applause or lack thereof is what keeps Brad up at night.

We do not care if you think it’s a complete waste of time! Only one team wins every season. Celtics have won 2 times in the last 40-ish years. That’s facts over feelings. We can do EVERYTHING you say and still always lose in the playoffs! Do everything you think is genius and still come out no better than the jays! You think you’re some Nostradamus? Most of the Celtics history has been a waste of time to you, huh? 18 chips out of 79 years!

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

My point is you don’t know what will happen or how good or bad the team will be! As I said, they can do EVERYTHING you say and still never get past the second round, unless you know the future.

Trust me, if I’m able to be here and they’re bad, I’ll say you were right. I just want that same energy in return. Don’t try and rewrite history though, this isn’t about a chip, it’s about a good or bad team.

[The Corey's]

Yes because I'm going to go waste my time searching your post history? And then once I find it you'll somehow try to discredit lol

I'm not in the business of derailing the thread and arguing with a middle schooler. "That was very beta of you" - are we in 6th grade, buddy?

Your gaslighting might get you through your regular life but it doesn't work on me, buddy. Lololol.

You make bold proclamations about me and refuse to back it up and yet in wasting your time lololoolol.

Rent free.

Sorry i'm losing brain cells reading your replies. Try not to derail the thread and act like an adult...

And oh, that's not what gaslighting is but nice try lmao. Holy $hit you're bad at this LMAOOO

And I know just how few you had left to spare. What a horrible day for you.

Personal attacks are not allowed. Disagree with the content of the post or ignore it, but don't insult the poster himself. -b

[SparringPartner]

The reason they moved KP/Jrue was because of the 2nd apron and the penalties from this horse$hit CBA. But I understand 90% of "fans" won't understand that. The moves yesterday were to get under the 2nd apron to give them flexibility for when JT returns.

Sucks he got hurt and next year is essentially a throwaway year.

Definitely a positive, but if you think the finances have nothing to do with it, I disagree. The 1st and 2nd aprons have nothing to do with money, and saving money is on the agenda.

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I'm not sure you fully understand how these complex restrictions work.

[SparringPartner]

11:50 - 14:40
any signs of a Celtics trade up? I asked a scout and got an emphatic "no" ... the names I'm hearing: Kalkbrenner, Penda, Rasheer Fleming

Watch on YouTube

Fleming, NICE

[themoneyteam2]

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

With JT out for the year they don't have championship hopes. So, not sure how 2nd round would be a low bar.

If you are going to troll, do better, bud. Or while you're at it go outside and touch grass.

Shak is the one who said Tatum wasn't out for the season.

Take a moment and comprehend what you're reading before you rush in here and try and slam dunk all over me.

My expectations next year is they aren't doing ****. Which they will most definitely meet, it's shak who has unrealistic expectations.

I'm not the one who thinks they're winning the title hahahahahahah

Actually that wasn't at all the point of what Shak was saying...

[GreenBlooded]

Actually. That's my point, full stop and 100% emphatically stated.

Blowing up your roster to save money against the tax does not mean you get flowers for making the playoffs and winning a round or two.

The Jays are in their championship window and not winning it is a complete waste of time.

This is the **** I mean with the green teamers. You don't live in the real world.

There isn't a single **** scenario where I applaud the Celtics for making the playoffs. None. Let's get that out the way now.

Congratulations, your applause or lack thereof is what keeps Brad up at night.

We do not care if you think it’s a complete waste of time! Only one team wins every season. Celtics have won 2 times in the last 40-ish years. That’s facts over feelings. We can do EVERYTHING you say and still always lose in the playoffs! Do everything you think is genius and still come out no better than the jays! You think you’re some Nostradamus? Most of the Celtics history has been a waste of time to you, huh? 18 chips out of 79 years!

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

I hope he's being logical and is aiming for a championship in 26-27 and disregarding wins and loses next year

[The Corey's]

Congratulations, your applause or lack thereof is what keeps Brad up at night.

We do not care if you think it’s a complete waste of time! Only one team wins every season. Celtics have won 2 times in the last 40-ish years. That’s facts over feelings. We can do EVERYTHING you say and still always lose in the playoffs! Do everything you think is genius and still come out no better than the jays! You think you’re some Nostradamus? Most of the Celtics history has been a waste of time to you, huh? 18 chips out of 79 years!

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

My point is you don’t know what will happen or how good or bad the team will be! As I said, they can do EVERYTHING you say and still never get past the second round, unless you know the future.

I'm not trying to get past the second round next year shak. I'm trying to build for the future.

You're the one who's holding on to a optimistic outcome for next season, regardless of championship accomplishments or not.

As I said. You're totally fine with winning a bunch of games, maybe some playoff games and call it a successful season. That's you. Thats your position.

Mine is that were better off getting this team in position to compete for a title when Tatum comes back and winning some useless games next year makes that infinitely more harder.

I don't have to accept that reaching their ceiling of being a playoff team and having some competitive playoff games is a good season.

[The Corey's]

Congratulations, your applause or lack thereof is what keeps Brad up at night.

We do not care if you think it’s a complete waste of time! Only one team wins every season. Celtics have won 2 times in the last 40-ish years. That’s facts over feelings. We can do EVERYTHING you say and still always lose in the playoffs! Do everything you think is genius and still come out no better than the jays! You think you’re some Nostradamus? Most of the Celtics history has been a waste of time to you, huh? 18 chips out of 79 years!

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

I hope he's being logical and is aiming for a championship in 26-27 and disregarding wins and loses next year

That is my point. Thank you.

[SparringPartner]

Yes because I'm going to go waste my time searching your post history? And then once I find it you'll somehow try to discredit lol

I'm not in the business of derailing the thread and arguing with a middle schooler. "That was very beta of you" - are we in 6th grade, buddy?

Your gaslighting might get you through your regular life but it doesn't work on me, buddy. Lololol.

You make bold proclamations about me and refuse to back it up and yet in wasting your time lololoolol.

Rent free.

Sorry i'm losing brain cells reading your replies. Try not to derail the thread and act like an adult...

And oh, that's not what gaslighting is but nice try lmao. Holy $hit you're bad at this LMAOOO

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation where someone tries to make another person doubt their own memory, perception, or sanity. The goal is usually to gain power or control by making the victim feel confused or unsure about what’s real.

Seems like it to me

[themoneyteam2]

Your gaslighting might get you through your regular life but it doesn't work on me, buddy. Lololol.

You make bold proclamations about me and refuse to back it up and yet in wasting your time lololoolol.

Rent free.

Sorry i'm losing brain cells reading your replies. Try not to derail the thread and act like an adult...

And oh, that's not what gaslighting is but nice try lmao. Holy $hit you're bad at this LMAOOO

And I know just how few you had left to spare. What a horrible day for you.

Maybe stop trying to derail the thread? I know you're on summer break before 7th grade starts next fall, but let's be respectful to the board and actually try to add value to it.

Thanks, buddy!

[The Corey's]

With JT out for the year they don't have championship hopes. So, not sure how 2nd round would be a low bar.

If you are going to troll, do better, bud. Or while you're at it go outside and touch grass.

Shak is the one who said Tatum wasn't out for the season.

Take a moment and comprehend what you're reading before you rush in here and try and slam dunk all over me.

My expectations next year is they aren't doing ****. Which they will most definitely meet, it's shak who has unrealistic expectations.

I'm not the one who thinks they're winning the title hahahahahahah

Actually that wasn't at all the point of what Shak was saying...

I've read dozens of post by shak where they are anticipating Tatum comes back and then anything can happen in the playoffs over the last couple days.


Or did that not happen either

[Shak_Celts]

What's your point shak. Is your point they brad is aiming for the second round next year?

Seems like a low bar for the Celtics.

My point is you don’t know what will happen or how good or bad the team will be! As I said, they can do EVERYTHING you say and still never get past the second round, unless you know the future.

I'm not trying to get past the second round next year shak. I'm trying to build for the future.

You're the one who's holding on to a optimistic outcome for next season, regardless of championship accomplishments or not.

As I said. You're totally fine with winning a bunch of games, maybe some playoff games and call it a successful season. That's you. Thats your position.

Mine is that were better off getting this team in position to compete for a title when Tatum comes back and winning some useless games next year makes that infinitely more harder.

I don't have to accept that reaching their ceiling of being a playoff team and having some competitive playoff games is a good season.

I’m telling you, as I have multiple times now, they can do EVERYTHING you want and still be no better off beyond next season!

[The Corey's]

Your gaslighting might get you through your regular life but it doesn't work on me, buddy. Lololol.

You make bold proclamations about me and refuse to back it up and yet in wasting your time lololoolol.

Rent free.

Sorry i'm losing brain cells reading your replies. Try not to derail the thread and act like an adult...

And oh, that's not what gaslighting is but nice try lmao. Holy $hit you're bad at this LMAOOO

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation where someone tries to make another person doubt their own memory, perception, or sanity. The goal is usually to gain power or control by making the victim feel confused or unsure about what’s real.

Seems like it to me

This person is obsessed with me. It's flattering. Thank you for proving my point for me in a way I wasn't able to.