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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1341 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:01 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:I would be pretty dissapointed if we went Clifford at 11. Shades of Duarte IMO. Dont think he flames out like Duarte but just a guy that is a replacement level starter at best and more suited for a 7-8 man role.

Anthony Parker is another guy that Nique reminds me of. Parker was a great role player but not really someone you swing for with basically a Top-10 pick.

Watching more Carter Bryant highlights and man his functional athleticism is elite. Noa is smooth and gets alot on his wild length, huge hands and excellent 2 footed jumping. But Bryant has insane explosion. I wouldnt be upset at him w/ 11. He has the gifts to be much more than a role player but his game is quite far from that - albeit I am in take the swing mode w/ draft picks.

Make win-now moves, its just going to happen w/ this FO - but swing big on the draft picks.


FWIW, I think Bryant and Noa are both going before the Blazers pick. I would draft both of them for Portland before Coward, even though I actually see Coward with a higher upside than many are saying. Personally, I think that at 11 in this draft the chances of drafting anything more than a "starter" level player are pretty small.

I do wonder if the Blazers go with a handling guard like KJ or Demin at 11 if it's a signal that they plan on moving off of flipping Holiday. I would think so...


Ya, I think Noa and Bryant are gone as well.

If Coward, Demin and KJ are there at 11 I would trade down w/ OKC (Assuming they are interested) for 15 + 24. Chances are 1 of the 3 are still on the board at 15 - and if not settling for Nique' wouldnt be the worst consolation prize.

I expect the pick to be Demin when all is said and done.

Speaking of Demin - is he even a better prospect than Vit Krejic? Vit was a young tall point-forward coming into the draft with a similar issue of shooting. He posted 6'8 and a 7WS and had 11 dunks in 57 games last year playing about 20mpg. Scouting report outlined being soft on defense and an inconsistent shooter (Basically the same as Demin).

I think Vit is a better athlete, better measurables, was a better shooter coming into the draft. Demin has some passing chops on him. But they are pretty comparable. I actually am a really big fan of Vit, but he sure was a developmental guy. Payoff started in his 4th year as he posted 7.2 / 2.7 / 2.6 on .651 EFg w/ .100 WS48, 0.0 OBPM, 0.7 DBPM (These are actually fantastic advanced stats). But again, I think he is quite a bit more of a NBA athlete than Demin. And it took 4 years to get to the aforementioned level.

Vit went 37 in 2020.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1342 » by Butter » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:03 pm

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Givony hard selling JK. Hard to ignore that he's probably the top pick for Portland/Schmitz.

Givony trying to be a bit more coy lately because word has gotten back to him that his connection to Schmitz means Portland media reads into anything he said near or related to Portland as basically being a Schmitz bullhorn.
I think this is a good take.

I'll be sad if this is the outcome. KJ is better than Demin but he has more role player potential (I see a lot of DDV in him) than star potential. We need to swing big here.

Drafting KJ would be a win-now move imo. Somewhat of a waste of a draft pick for us if we're keeping Jrue.


I assume draft JK has bigger ramifications for Scoot than for Jrue.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1343 » by Walton1one » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:13 pm

I think Jakucionis or Demin are good fits with Scoot b/c either could come in and play that third guard really easily and both have the capability to slide from PG- SG-SF
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1344 » by zzaj » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:19 pm

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BlazersBroncos wrote:I would be pretty dissapointed if we went Clifford at 11. Shades of Duarte IMO. Dont think he flames out like Duarte but just a guy that is a replacement level starter at best and more suited for a 7-8 man role.

Anthony Parker is another guy that Nique reminds me of. Parker was a great role player but not really someone you swing for with basically a Top-10 pick.

Watching more Carter Bryant highlights and man his functional athleticism is elite. Noa is smooth and gets alot on his wild length, huge hands and excellent 2 footed jumping. But Bryant has insane explosion. I wouldnt be upset at him w/ 11. He has the gifts to be much more than a role player but his game is quite far from that - albeit I am in take the swing mode w/ draft picks.

Make win-now moves, its just going to happen w/ this FO - but swing big on the draft picks.


FWIW, I think Bryant and Noa are both going before the Blazers pick. I would draft both of them for Portland before Coward, even though I actually see Coward with a higher upside than many are saying. Personally, I think that at 11 in this draft the chances of drafting anything more than a "starter" level player are pretty small.

I do wonder if the Blazers go with a handling guard like KJ or Demin at 11 if it's a signal that they plan on moving off of flipping Holiday. I would think so...


Ya, I think Noa and Bryant are gone as well.

If Coward, Demin and KJ are there at 11 I would trade down w/ OKC (Assuming they are interested) for 15 + 24. Chances are 1 of the 3 are still on the board at 15 - and if not settling for Nique' wouldnt be the worst consolation prize.

I expect the pick to be Demin when all is said and done.

Speaking of Demin - is he even a better prospect than Vit Krejic? Vit was a young tall point-forward coming into the draft with a similar issue of shooting. He posted 6'8 and a 7WS and had 11 dunks in 57 games last year playing about 20mpg. Scouting report outlined being soft on defense and an inconsistent shooter (Basically the same as Demin).

I think Vit is a better athlete, better measurables, was a better shooter coming into the draft. Demin has some passing chops on him. But they are pretty comparable. I actually am a really big fan of Vit, but he sure was a developmental guy. Payoff started in his 4th year as he posted 7.2 / 2.7 / 2.6 on .651 EFg w/ .100 WS48, 0.0 OBPM, 0.7 DBPM (These are actually fantastic advanced stats). But again, I think he is quite a bit more of a NBA athlete than Demin. And it took 4 years to get to the aforementioned level.

Vit went 37 in 2020.


Ha! Vit Krejic?! Honestly, I have a fleeting memory of him from a DX report from back then but don't remember much. I'm with you on Demin...once I watched actual game footage of BYU I realized that a lot of his passing is simply system and being tall. If you take that away he's not really providing much oncourt value. He's like the definition of a theoretical talent...
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1345 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:28 pm

Butter wrote:I assume draft JK has bigger ramifications for Scoot than for Jrue.


I would say it would be Sharpe more than Scoot. JK can play SG, has similar size and skillset to Sharpe but projects to be a better defender and more natural playmaker.

I really wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Sharpe is traded this summer.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1346 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:29 pm

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FWIW, I think Bryant and Noa are both going before the Blazers pick. I would draft both of them for Portland before Coward, even though I actually see Coward with a higher upside than many are saying. Personally, I think that at 11 in this draft the chances of drafting anything more than a "starter" level player are pretty small.

I do wonder if the Blazers go with a handling guard like KJ or Demin at 11 if it's a signal that they plan on moving off of flipping Holiday. I would think so...


Ya, I think Noa and Bryant are gone as well.

If Coward, Demin and KJ are there at 11 I would trade down w/ OKC (Assuming they are interested) for 15 + 24. Chances are 1 of the 3 are still on the board at 15 - and if not settling for Nique' wouldnt be the worst consolation prize.

I expect the pick to be Demin when all is said and done.

Speaking of Demin - is he even a better prospect than Vit Krejic? Vit was a young tall point-forward coming into the draft with a similar issue of shooting. He posted 6'8 and a 7WS and had 11 dunks in 57 games last year playing about 20mpg. Scouting report outlined being soft on defense and an inconsistent shooter (Basically the same as Demin).

I think Vit is a better athlete, better measurables, was a better shooter coming into the draft. Demin has some passing chops on him. But they are pretty comparable. I actually am a really big fan of Vit, but he sure was a developmental guy. Payoff started in his 4th year as he posted 7.2 / 2.7 / 2.6 on .651 EFg w/ .100 WS48, 0.0 OBPM, 0.7 DBPM (These are actually fantastic advanced stats). But again, I think he is quite a bit more of a NBA athlete than Demin. And it took 4 years to get to the aforementioned level.

Vit went 37 in 2020.


Ha! Vit Krejic?! Honestly, I have a fleeting memory of him from a DX report from back then but don't remember much. I'm with you on Demin...once I watched actual game footage of BYU I realized that a lot of his passing is simply system and being tall. If you take that away he's not really providing much oncourt value. He's like the definition of a theoretical talent...


I actually would love to steal Vit from ATL. He is going to be a really nice role player. Just took him some time. And he is locked up for under 3M AV for the next 3 years.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1347 » by DaVoiceMaster » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:54 pm

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Butter wrote:I assume draft JK has bigger ramifications for Scoot than for Jrue.


I would say it would be Sharpe more than Scoot. JK can play SG, has similar size and skillset to Sharpe but projects to be a better defender and more natural playmaker.

I really wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Sharpe is traded this summer.


I wouldn't be opposed to Sharpe + 11 for 3 or 4.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1348 » by zzaj » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:57 pm

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Ya, I think Noa and Bryant are gone as well.

If Coward, Demin and KJ are there at 11 I would trade down w/ OKC (Assuming they are interested) for 15 + 24. Chances are 1 of the 3 are still on the board at 15 - and if not settling for Nique' wouldnt be the worst consolation prize.

I expect the pick to be Demin when all is said and done.

Speaking of Demin - is he even a better prospect than Vit Krejic? Vit was a young tall point-forward coming into the draft with a similar issue of shooting. He posted 6'8 and a 7WS and had 11 dunks in 57 games last year playing about 20mpg. Scouting report outlined being soft on defense and an inconsistent shooter (Basically the same as Demin).

I think Vit is a better athlete, better measurables, was a better shooter coming into the draft. Demin has some passing chops on him. But they are pretty comparable. I actually am a really big fan of Vit, but he sure was a developmental guy. Payoff started in his 4th year as he posted 7.2 / 2.7 / 2.6 on .651 EFg w/ .100 WS48, 0.0 OBPM, 0.7 DBPM (These are actually fantastic advanced stats). But again, I think he is quite a bit more of a NBA athlete than Demin. And it took 4 years to get to the aforementioned level.

Vit went 37 in 2020.


Ha! Vit Krejic?! Honestly, I have a fleeting memory of him from a DX report from back then but don't remember much. I'm with you on Demin...once I watched actual game footage of BYU I realized that a lot of his passing is simply system and being tall. If you take that away he's not really providing much oncourt value. He's like the definition of a theoretical talent...


I actually would love to steal Vit from ATL. He is going to be a really nice role player. Just took him some time. And he is locked up for under 3M AV for the next 3 years.


I'll be honest--I didn't even realize he was still in the NBA. I basically never see ATL games.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1349 » by Case2012 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:08 pm

Apparently Cedric Coward has worked out for OKC multiple times. He’s going 15 to the Thunder—put money on it. And that’s the infuriating part: drafting well is simple. You stack extra picks and then steal whoever Oklahoma City wants. If Presti circles a guy, that’s the cue. Coward is a physical carbon-copy of Jalen Williams—elite wingspan, proven spot-up shooting, defensive juice. Total no-brainer. So of course we’ll pass and grab Kasparas Jakucionis, a nice sixth-man ceiling in three years.

Yeah, Carter Bryant could be a Toumani-lite defender, fine. But if you’re swinging for a star it’s Coward—or Walter Clayton Jr. as the sleeper. Brooklyn’s drowning in picks; Simons alone could’ve pried #19 and maybe #26, landed WCJ, cleared the runway for Scoot. Instead we blew our ammo on 35-year-old Jrue Holiday because “championship culture” will apparently lift Grant, Deni and Ayton into title contention. Right.

Coward will pop in OKC or San Antonio while Schmitz pretends he never saw him. Imagine waiting your whole life to become a GM and running a team like Cronin does: four years of gridlock traffic—bad trades, meh draft picks, zero path to contention. Meanwhile Thunder, Celtics, Spurs, even the Clippers and Sixers get to do stuff. That’s half the fun of being a fan.... So **** these people for making being a fan of this team suck so much. 4 years of this with no end in site.

We pour in money, time, sanity; they repay us with perpetual mediocrity, trading our favorites, skipping future stars. Draft night used to feel like Christmas—now it’s a slow-motion car crash I can’t stop rubber-necking. Hold tight, because tonight is set up to disappoint on schedule, and the irony is they're doing all this BS because they think it's gonna save their jobs LOL, at least they secured their golden parachutes in the form of those ridiculous extensions they "earned".
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Post#1350 » by BlazersBroncos » Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:20 pm

Yeah, Carter Bryant could be a Toumani-lite defender, fine. But if you’re swinging for a star it’s Coward—or Walter Clayton Jr. as the sleeper. Brooklyn’s drowning in picks; Simons alone could’ve pried #19 and maybe #26, landed WCJ, cleared the runway for Scoot. Instead we blew our ammo on 35-year-old Jrue Holiday because “championship culture” will apparently lift Grant, Deni and Ayton into title contention. Right.


This is nonsense. BRK just made a deal that sold off cap space for a pick. There is no indication they had interest in Simons and the trade they just made indicates they are doing a take-bad-money-for-picks route. Paying picks for players, especially of Simons caliber, is something that BRK has shown no indication so far through this early offseason.

I get being upset at taking on the Holiday money but your making stuff up here.
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Post#1351 » by zzaj » Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:20 pm

Case2012 wrote:Apparently Cedric Coward has worked out for OKC multiple times. He’s going 15 to the Thunder—put money on it. And that’s the infuriating part: drafting well is simple. You stack extra picks and then steal whoever Oklahoma City wants. If Presti circles a guy, that’s the cue. Coward is a physical carbon-copy of Jalen Williams—elite wingspan, proven spot-up shooting, defensive juice. Total no-brainer. So of course we’ll pass and grab Kasparas Jakucionis, a nice sixth-man ceiling in three years.

Yeah, Carter Bryant could be a Toumani-lite defender, fine. But if you’re swinging for a star it’s Coward—or Walter Clayton Jr. as the sleeper. Brooklyn’s drowning in picks; Simons alone could’ve pried #19 and maybe #26, landed WCJ, cleared the runway for Scoot. Instead we blew our ammo on 35-year-old Jrue Holiday because “championship culture” will apparently lift Grant, Deni and Ayton into title contention. Right.

Coward will pop in OKC or San Antonio while Schmitz pretends he never saw him. Imagine waiting your whole life to become a GM and running a team like Cronin does: four years of gridlock traffic—bad trades, meh draft picks, zero path to contention. Meanwhile Thunder, Celtics, Spurs, even the Clippers and Sixers get to do stuff. That’s half the fun of being a fan.... So **** these people for making being a fan of this team suck so much. 4 years of this with no end in site.

We pour in money, time, sanity; they repay us with perpetual mediocrity, trading our favorites, skipping future stars. Draft night used to feel like Christmas—now it’s a slow-motion car crash I can’t stop rubber-necking. Hold tight, because tonight is set up to disappoint on schedule, and the irony is they're doing all this BS because they think it's gonna save their jobs LOL, at least they secured their golden parachutes in the form of those ridiculous extensions they "earned".


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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

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Post#1353 » by Case2012 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:08 pm

Someone in a group chat posted that we sent Grant and someone else for Collins and Williams for our pick back and i lost it with happiness for a half second, then realized it was BS. UGH.

Also just heard that Dusty was told we are 100% are keeping Jrue.

I love the defense but trade Scoot, trade Sharpe, trade the pick if you're going to try and compete, this 2 timelines hasn't worked in 12 years of trying it.

Holiday only makes sense if you think Grant, Toumani, Deni, Thybulle, and Ayton are the supporting cast you need to win if you can acquire Giannis. And to be fair, it might. But we aren't getting him. We aren't trading for a star because we haven't done that in 25 years.

If we got our pick back, used the 11 and the Milwaukie picks plus Scoot, and Sharpe and Grant for like.. Jalen Brown? Ok. Who else?

If we really really wanted to go all in. And really compete. There are ways. They wont do it. That's what makes me so mad year after year.

3 years ago I posted several ways we could have basically built the Knicks this year or the Pacers. Idk if anyone remembers that, but i got crapped on quite a bit and then those teams ended up being pretty good.

The path is always there, but they lack the conviction or bravery. If they really wanted to compete and keep their jobs, that would be a good way. Jody aint paying the bills this time. Say eff it and go for it!!!
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1354 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:18 pm

Case2012 wrote:Someone in a group chat posted that we sent Grant and someone else for Collins and Williams for our pick back and i lost it with happiness for a half second, then realized it was BS. UGH.



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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1356 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:52 pm

I'm not really holding my breath for any moves from Cronin. I know the Deni trade was a draft day trade for him last year, historically tho, his draft days are a bit of a snoozer. Take the pick and goto bed usually.

Fingers crossed one or more of these players gets moved in the next few hours tho...

Grant
Williams
Thybulle
Sharpe (for the board surprise factor)
Murray

... Ayton maybe. I'm not a "get this dude off the team" guy with DA, I'm OK with them keeping him and don't even hate the idea of a short extension for him to be here the length of Jrue's deal, but I wonder if he could have some value in trades more than we think.
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Re: 2025 Blazer Draft Prospects 

Post#1357 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:40 am

Things could be worse for the Hornets board just hates KK.

Seems like this is the type of draft to be picking in the mid lottery as opposed to 3-4
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Post#1358 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:46 am

I just don't get how KK rose THAT high. His shooting is great, I get it, but everything else looks like it's going to be sub-NBA level with his game. Best case with him is a less athletic Austin Reaves... maybe Desmond Bane type with worse defense?

I'm sure he'll be fine, but 4 was a reach imo. He should have been a 6-15 kinda pick, not in the top 5.

Bailey to Utah also interesting. He reportedly did not want to go there, but looks like they picked him to keep him, not to trade him.
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Post#1359 » by DusterBuster » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:47 am

So far all the predictions of a "wild" draft are flatlining.
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Post#1360 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:50 am

Nets still have 5 FRP so perhaps there may yet be a trade up from 8 involving these extra picks to go
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