shangrila wrote:Klomp wrote:shangrila wrote:I think it is, at least for this team/coaching staff. I don't think they value unskilled bigs, with the exception of Rudy because of his defensive prowess.
I think Fleming's shooting skill moves him into a different category though. I don't see it as a Rudy situation on offense.
You may be right. I just don't know what he does when someone runs him off the 3pt line. If its a poor closeout his basic handle might get him past that guy and into the lane but if the low man stops him I'm not sure he can make the right pass to the open teammate.
I'm also dubious of his defence. He's got the tools but his perimetre defence in particular is a bit of a mess from a technique point of view, which gives me Minott vibes. And we've seen what Finch thinks about players like that.
I personally wouldn't be upset if they took him. I could see him as a Chris Boucher type of player, which could be fun, and he definitely fits a more uptempo style the team is looking at. I just can't shake the feeling he's not a Finch guy. I don't think it's a coincidence that guys like Minott and Miller can't get minutes but Clarke and TSJ do (even though their minutes are sporadic at best too).
Have you seen the other prospects outside of the top 7-8 in this draft?
Most of them have more flaws than skills and those that don't are 22-23 years old already.
Fleming can both shoot and finish very well, has decent agility, and GREAT length.
That's enough for me for a 4/5 in the last half of the 1st round.
How is the mental part of the game? Is he dropping from poor interviews/attitude or was it that he couldnt work out because of an injury?
I think his floor is 23 to New Orleans as their GM has Maryland connections.
I'd love to grab him in a trade down to 19,21, or 23.
Please don't draft Sorber and his cement feet.
Get one of the bigs that can shoot a little and have the requisite length (7'+ 9'2 reach or better).
I feel it's probably 50% TC trades out of the first round entirely because of stupid shortsighted salary concerns because paying a crappy veteran 2.2 million versus a draft pick 4 million is just a massive win.
But drafting a crappy player you waste time and minutes developing is worse.
I'd much rather trade down and still get a decent player plus some future 2nd round picks than trade out of the draft entirely for some crappy protected future 1st that isnt even guaranteed to convey.
Remember we got really lucky with this Pistons pick conveying at 17 in the first place.
There are a bunch of 22 and 23 year olds in this draft with a great chance to jump into a rotation right away.
If we play our cards right we are in a great position to grab 2 of them.
