2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion

Post #121 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:28 am

Is the Mark Williams trade possible being in the 2nd apron tax right now?

BobbieL · Post #122 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:28 am

bwgood77 wrote:So we are trading 29 AND a future first for Mark Williams? The fact that we are doing that and keeping Richards doesn't leave me feeling too good about us keeping Maluach.

Well that might make sense. Trade him to the bulls to include Beal

Post #123 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:28 am

Mr Puddles wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Williams isn’t worth two picks

Dipshitbia is so stupid

They are two poor firsts though. 2029 pick is one of the super protected ones

And Mark Williams is a legit starting 5

Exactly, this is basically two very late first rounders. Mark Williams is absolutely legit, apparently there are questions about his durability but at this price it's a great move.

If we were on the verge of being really good and competing to win rounds in the playoffs, I could maybe get on board, but we are at a point where we need to take as many swings in the draft as we can. By the time we are good again, Williams will be long gone.

Blonde · Post #124 » by **Blonde** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:28 am

Why not just draft Maliach and use those two first on a forward or PG? Idk, feels like there has to be more to this. I don’t see any world where Williams/Maluach can share the floor together if we want any semblance of spacing or switching.

BobbieL · Post #125 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:29 am

Qwigglez wrote:Is the Mark Williams trade possible being in the 2nd apron tax right now?

Won’t they have to take Martin

Mr Puddles · Post #126 » by **Mr Puddles** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:29 am

Qwigglez wrote:Is the Mark Williams trade possible being in the 2nd apron tax right now?

I'm guessing it's part of a larger trade with Grayson being shipped out somewhere. I believe the Suns need to clear 6 mil to execute the trade

Post #127 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:29 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:They are two poor firsts though. 2029 pick is one of the super protected ones

And Mark Williams is a legit starting 5

Exactly, this is basically two very late first rounders. Mark Williams is absolutely legit, apparently there are questions about his durability but at this price it's a great move.

If we were on the verge of being really good and competing to win rounds in the playoffs, I could maybe get on board, but we are at a point where we need to take as many swings in the draft as we can. By the time we are good again, Williams will be long gone.

Why? Williams is 23

BobbieL · Post #128 » by **BobbieL** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:29 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:They are two poor firsts though. 2029 pick is one of the super protected ones

And Mark Williams is a legit starting 5

Exactly, this is basically two very late first rounders. Mark Williams is absolutely legit, apparently there are questions about his durability but at this price it's a great move.

If we were on the verge of being really good and competing to win rounds in the playoffs, I could maybe get on board, but we are at a point where we need to take as many swings in the draft as we can. By the time we are good again, Williams will be long gone.

This is how I feel. It’s just blowing through assets for average players

WeekapaugGroove · Post #129 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:29 am

BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:So we are trading 29 AND a future first for Mark Williams? The fact that we are doing that and keeping Richards doesn't leave me feeling too good about us keeping Maluach.

Well that might make sense. Trade him to the bulls to include Beal

God I hope not. Trade Richards and let Maluach develop off the bench for a couple years.

Sunsdeuce · Post #130 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:30 am

Blonde wrote:Why not just draft Maliach and use those two first on a forward or PG? Idk, feels like there has to be more to this. I don’t see any world where Williams/Maluach can share the floor together if we want any semblance of spacing or switching.

You’re in Ishbia’s world now. Don’t question anything he does!

Post #131 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:30 am

BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:So we are trading 29 AND a future first for Mark Williams? The fact that we are doing that and keeping Richards doesn't leave me feeling too good about us keeping Maluach.

Well that might make sense. Trade him to the bulls to include Beal

Probably to the Wizards...if you read that espn blurb I posted above, it mentions them. Also NotTraxxe said we are trading 10 and Beal for Danny Wolf.

So if that's true....

Green
Booker
Dunn
Wolf
Williams

TeamTragic · Post #132 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:30 am

Beal/Richards going out?

Grayson being moved?

SkyBill40 · Post #133 » by **SkyBill40** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:30 am

Qwigglez wrote:Is the Mark Williams trade possible being in the 2nd apron tax right now?

There's definitely something else going on here as we can't take on that salary even with Durant being sent out. I expect one of Allen or O'Neale is now a goner along with those two picks.

bullsaficianado · Post #134 » by **bullsaficianado** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:30 am

I like the move we need a decent center. It's a late 1st rounder.

dremill24 · Post #135 » by **dremill24** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:31 am

Man Coward looks super intriguing..

Post #136 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:31 am

Sunsdeuce wrote:
Blonde wrote:Why not just draft Maliach and use those two first on a forward or PG? Idk, feels like there has to be more to this. I don’t see any world where Williams/Maluach can share the floor together if we want any semblance of spacing or switching.

You’re in Ishbia’s world now. Don’t question anything he does!

I don't think we keep Maluach. Ishbia wouldn't want a project. He wants to compete now.

KdoubleDees23 · Post #137 » by **KdoubleDees23** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:31 am

BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:
Exactly, this is basically two very late first rounders. Mark Williams is absolutely legit, apparently there are questions about his durability but at this price it's a great move.

If we were on the verge of being really good and competing to win rounds in the playoffs, I could maybe get on board, but we are at a point where we need to take as many swings in the draft as we can. By the time we are good again, Williams will be long gone.

This is how I feel. It’s just blowing through assets for average players

Dude the odds the suns get a player who avg 13/10 and is 23 years old at #29 is like .0005% …. Like we got a starting C

TeamTragic · Post #138 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:32 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
If we were on the verge of being really good and competing to win rounds in the playoffs, I could maybe get on board, but we are at a point where we need to take as many swings in the draft as we can. By the time we are good again, Williams will be long gone.

This is how I feel. It’s just blowing through assets for average players

Dude the odds the suns get a player who avg 13/10 and is 23 years old at #29 is like .0005% …. Like we got a starting C

No point in arguing with mental patients.

bullsaficianado · Post #139 » by **bullsaficianado** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:33 am

If they actually trade Beal tonight I think I would celebrate with a cigar.

Post #140 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:33 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
If we were on the verge of being really good and competing to win rounds in the playoffs, I could maybe get on board, but we are at a point where we need to take as many swings in the draft as we can. By the time we are good again, Williams will be long gone.

This is how I feel. It’s just blowing through assets for average players

Dude the odds the suns get a player who avg 13/10 and is 23 years old at #29 is like .0005% …. Like we got a starting C

That's exactly it. Health is the major question mark but Mark Williams is a very good C. LA were willing to overpay for him

What is your draft grade?