Draft Day: Round 1

[Neeva]

Tbh I **** hate that they separated the draft into two days wtf, i want to know the 31st pick now, not wait a whole day. i feel for the kids too , no one will care about the draft tomorrow.

[Nick K]

This will be known around these parts in the future as the draft where we took a bust one pick before Walter Clayton Jr.

Maybe another Justin Patton scenario? We picked him 16 in 2017. Huge bust. Drafted after him:

John Collins
Jarret Allen
Josh Hart
OG Anouby
Derrick White

How can pro management be so stupid. I was all over John Collins or OG Anunoby. Total no-brainer. i'm still shaking my head. Effing Thibs.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Utah, SA, OKC all going to get 2 very good players who can play this year.

We got a raw 18 year old frenchman to back up Luka Garza and go with Rudy on weed runs.

Okc already has enough players in the playoffs.. SA, who knows if they will amount to anything next year.. utah, who cares.

You are annointing Rookies as quality bb players? Respectfully disagree. Particularly considering tsj, Jaylen, and rob cannot sniff the court. Lmiller even COULD turn into something, but who knows.

[younggunsmn]

?

mobility at that height and length is rare

Robert Williams, Holmgren, Bam, Okongwu

those are the only ones off the top of my head in the league currently

and i say this as someone who would have picked five others before JB

Except he doesnt have defensive anchor length and he has an awkward body.
Rudy Gobert was a 7'2 monster at 18 and this kid is going to have an incredible amount of work to do to even be an NBA backup.

Maybe the rawest prospect in the entire draft. Exactly what I didn't want.

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
He looks about 6'10 in every video I watch.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Another inverse silver lining is that now we're going to have to keep Rudy around to mentor this kid.
HOW IS THIS PICK SUPPOSED TO HELP US MOVE PAST OKC?

[Neeva]

This will be known around these parts in the future as the draft where we took a bust one pick before Walter Clayton Jr.

Maybe another Justin Patton scenario? We picked him 16 in 2017. Huge bust. Drafted after him:

John Collins
Jarret Allen
Josh Hart
OG Anouby
Derrick White

How can pro management be so stupid. I was all over John Collins or OG Anunoby. Total no-brainer. i'm still shaking my head. Effing Thibs.

Were any of you high on Walter Clayton before the florida ncaa tournament run

[jpatrick]

Except he doesnt have defensive anchor length and he has an awkward body.
Rudy Gobert was a 7'2 monster at 18 and this kid is going to have an incredible amount of work to do to even be an NBA backup.

Maybe the rawest prospect in the entire draft. Exactly what I didn't want.

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Those are NBA combine measurements from about a week ago. The NBA conducted measurements for the Euro guys in Italy.

[Neeva]

You know what let’s just go for Jase Richardson at 31, he’s short and kind of chubby but he should be able to score some and make plays off the bench, maybe outplay Clayton Jr, Kasparas etc in the long run.

[guest81]

Except he doesnt have defensive anchor length and he has an awkward body.
Rudy Gobert was a 7'2 monster at 18 and this kid is going to have an incredible amount of work to do to even be an NBA backup.

Maybe the rawest prospect in the entire draft. Exactly what I didn't want.

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
He looks about 6'10 in every video I watch.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Another inverse silver lining is that now we're going to have to keep Rudy around to mentor this kid.
HOW IS THIS PICK SUPPOSED TO HELP US MOVE PAST OKC?

Was there a player at 17 that would of changed the course of the WCF?

[Nick K]

Utah, SA, OKC all going to get 2 very good players who can play this year.

We got a raw 18 year old frenchman to back up Luka Garza and go with Rudy on weed runs.

[KGdaBom]

Except he doesnt have defensive anchor length and he has an awkward body.
Rudy Gobert was a 7'2 monster at 18 and this kid is going to have an incredible amount of work to do to even be an NBA backup.

Maybe the rawest prospect in the entire draft. Exactly what I didn't want.

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
He looks about 6'10 in every video I watch.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Another inverse silver lining is that now we're going to have to keep Rudy around to mentor this kid.
HOW IS THIS PICK SUPPOSED TO HELP US MOVE PAST OKC?

In the Beringer thread BlackJacMac has a nice scouting report that might get you off the ledge. Vecenie loves him also. I hope that helps.

[MN7725]

17. Minnesota Timberwolves

Joan Beringer | 6-11 big | 18 years old | KK Cedevita Olimpija

Vecenie’s ranking: 13

Where you fall on Beringer will ultimately be determined by your willingness to take on a project. It’s going to take time to get Beringer up to speed across the board. He’s still exceptionally raw and learning the game. Things move fast for him right now, and his reactions can often be slow in the way that they tend to be when you’re first learning how to do something. Still, there’s not a big man in this class who moves better than Beringer. He’s exceptionally twitchy when he’s on the floor and when he lifts off the ground to block a shot or dunk. He also is flexible and plays with genuine bend. Not many people this size move like this.

Given that he’s also highly regarded from a character perspective, it’s hard not to buy into him as an NBA player at some point. At the very least, he could turn into a backup center. There is more upside than that, as he could easily turn into a Capela-style big man who runs the floor, defends well and finishes on the interior. The athletic traits are ridiculous to go with his hands. But realistically, every NBA team will feel differently about whether it is willing to take on Beringer as a project. Some do not have interest, and others see him as a starting center of the future if they can get him the right coaching and development.

didn't know Sam (who i think is the best draft guru, puts in incredible amount of time) had a lottery rank on JB


again, there would have been 5 guys i would have picked ahead of him, so I feel odd defending the pick

but bottom line is no one picked here was going to play anything but garbage minutes unless the season is a disaster injury wise

He's a younger/rawer version of Lively/Missi/Ware, who I see people constantly want to trade for as long-term Cs

[younggunsmn]

Nique Clifford would have looked GREAT in our wing rotation.

Wonder what OKC got from Sacramento for the 24th pick.
Was it our unprotected 2031 1st? Talk about salt in the wound.

[moss_is_1]

Except he doesnt have defensive anchor length and he has an awkward body.
Rudy Gobert was a 7'2 monster at 18 and this kid is going to have an incredible amount of work to do to even be an NBA backup.

Maybe the rawest prospect in the entire draft. Exactly what I didn't want.

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
He looks about 6'10 in every video I watch.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Another inverse silver lining is that now we're going to have to keep Rudy around to mentor this kid.
HOW IS THIS PICK SUPPOSED TO HELP US MOVE PAST OKC?

That's fair. They measured him, along with Essengue and Saraf during their euro playoffs i believe. No one knows how this kid will turn out. But looking at it with an optimistic outlook, we aren't going to be playing any rookie this year as it is. This kid is 18, has all the tools just needs to be coached up. Rudy came in with a similar way so who better to help mentor him? Hes also really raw and still been a contributor. Only been playing for 4 seasons so it's really hard to know just how much he will learn. It's exciting to have such a great development big on the roster.

[Nick K]

It sure will be. I'm disgusted with the reach pick on Beringer while passing on Clayton Jr.

This pick was all about drafting for need rather than just taking the BPA. That almost always comes back to haunt you.

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He's 5 years younger than WCJ. Let's see how they both look 5 years from now.

I think the age factor is greatly overblown. We could get two (2) contracts with ten (10) years in a Wolves uniform and WCJ would still only be 32 years old.

It's just my opinion, and I could end up being wrong, but this was a terrible decision and an act of desperation seeking a backup C.

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I don't think so. they don't need him tomorrow. They are looking to hit a home run down the road and they just might. His improvement in just a few years is nothing short of amazing. He has great natural tools. With coaching he can learn post moves. He was the first guy i loved when I first looked at this draft. Then I cooled cause he was so raw. I wouldn't bet against this kid. He's 18 yrs old.

[m2002brian]

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
He looks about 6'10 in every video I watch.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Another inverse silver lining is that now we're going to have to keep Rudy around to mentor this kid.
HOW IS THIS PICK SUPPOSED TO HELP US MOVE PAST OKC?

Was there a player at 17 that would of changed the course of the WCF?

WCJ

[younggunsmn]

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
He looks about 6'10 in every video I watch.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Another inverse silver lining is that now we're going to have to keep Rudy around to mentor this kid.
HOW IS THIS PICK SUPPOSED TO HELP US MOVE PAST OKC?

In the Beringer thread BlackJacMac has a nice scouting report that might get you off the ledge. Vecenie loves him also. I hope that helps.

Honestly they only way I'm going to like this pick is if he develops a jump shot and is good enough to push Rudy Gobert to the bench.
Because watching 3 seasons of basketball with a guy with hands that bad is giving me brain damage and I don't know how much more I can take.

[winforlose]

Who knows at the end of the day. We've got enough depth in the short term. It would be frustrating having another young guy rot on the bench, given ZERO opportunity from the coach. Better drafting a HIGH upside guy that needs some time.

Worst case there is always Iowa.

If he's going to Iowa could we stash him instead? Is that the reason we drafted him to save on Salary cap?

Stash eliminates him for the season. Iowa develops him for 3 months while practicing with the big club some of the time. Then we transition him into some minutes. Also in case of injuries we need the size off the bench. I think this kid might have more readiness than we give him credit for.

[KGdaBom]

Worst case there is always Iowa.

If he's going to Iowa could we stash him instead? Is that the reason we drafted him to save on Salary cap?

Stash eliminates him for the season. Iowa develops him for 3 months while practicing with the big club some of the time. Then we transition him into some minutes. Also in case of injuries we need the size off the bench. I think this kid might have more readiness than we give him credit for.

I'm thinking he absolutely won't be ready to contribute in 25-26. It comes down to where is the best place for his development.

[Shaka_Zulu]

Wolves had the 17th pick like an hour and half ago. This going in snails pace.


But here's the kicker, stupid moi been waiting for Wolves 31st picks since then, and it's 05:00 morning here in Sweden. Now I just realized the 31st pick won't be shown tonight because they changed 2nd round to tommorrow night? *doh*

[younggunsmn]

He absolutely has anchor length. 7'4"5 wingspan and 9'3" standing reach. He just grew another inch from last season too. Similar to Myles Turner, Kelel Ware. Bigger than Jarret Allen, Claxton, Gafford.

I read 9'0 reach which is the important stat.
He looks about 6'10 in every video I watch.
Where we those measurements taken?
Euro measurments are also hard to trust.

I'm trying to find something to talk myself down from absolutely hating this pick but have yet to find anything.
This is the definition of a lottery ticket draft pick.

Another inverse silver lining is that now we're going to have to keep Rudy around to mentor this kid.
HOW IS THIS PICK SUPPOSED TO HELP US MOVE PAST OKC?

Was there a player at 17 that would of changed the course of the WCF?

WCJ and Nique Clifford in particular would have really helped our offense from circling the drain in every loss.
Defensive Minded backup centers can be found on the waiver wire at any time.