2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg

[fallguy]

Hugo's ranks 26th on Givony's big board. Of course, some expect Brad to draft a top 10 talent at 28.

Why not?

It's not clear they didn't get a huge talent.

[return2glory]

If we weren't going to take a big, I would have much preferred Penda..

Hugo was ranked above Penda.

[Hal14]

The red flag on Fleming must be the size of Mount Everest...

He's ranked 32 on Sam Vecenie's board, from The Athletic.

https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2025/06/18185319/2025-NBA-Draft-Guide-Intl-Updates.pdf

Vecenie on his podcast said that some teams like him but others see him as nothing more than a 2-way contract player.

Vecenie also said on his pod that Fleming "has no idea where he is going on defense".

[fallguy]

Haven't multiple sources just said the Celtics are bringing the guy over now?

Yes but that fact gets in the way of the rampant negativity.

You say facts and negativity, so what is 24%? Sounds like a facts and negativity to me.

I have no idea what this post is supposed to mean.

[return2glory]

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[fallguy]

The red flag on Fleming must be the size of Mount Everest...

He's ranked 32 on Sam Vecenie's board, from The Athletic.

https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2025/06/18185319/2025-NBA-Draft-Guide-Intl-Updates.pdf

Vecenie on his podcast said that some teams like him but others see him as nothing more than a 2-way contract player.

Vecenie also said on his pod that Fleming "has no idea where he is going on defense".

But it's apparently a fireable offense that Brad didn't take him?

[djFan71]

If we weren't going to take a big, I would have much preferred Penda..

I'm with you here. Penda/Fleming was kinda my hope. But, I'm still good with Hugo as long as we get one of those 2 tomorrow.

Even if you put him above jordan walsh, he's technically our fifth wing behind brown white hauser and rico. All while not even having a decent, powerful forward or center.. I'm sorry but that is just horrible..

Hauser is probably gone, but point stands. I think he’s a project, but he’s got good size and plays his *** off. This kinda cracked me up from KOC cuz he said the says basically the same thing 2 sentences in a row. But, I like the thing.

He plays hard, but is more than a hustler and strong defender. He’s a high-motor wing with great defensive tools and a slashing style on offense.

Can’t always draft for need. But we dang well better tomorrow, lol.

[playa-hater]

Yes but that fact gets in the way of the rampant negativity.

You say facts and negativity, so what is 24%? Sounds like a facts and negativity to me.

I have no idea what this post is supposed to mean.

That he is a wing and shot twenty four percent from three last season and twenty seven percent in the last three years.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Can you imagine Hugo and Walsh on the court at the same time?

Clang... Clunk... Clang... Clunk... Clang... Clunk.

Shooting is the easiest, most common thing that players improve in the NBA.

JB wasn't a good shooter in college..neither was Grant. White and Al didn't really shoot it before getting here..

Also, Hugo being drafted might signal Walsh is about to get traded..or he'll get waived before the season since only $200K of his contract for this season is guaranteed.

Perhaps we'll have them both on summer league team and if Walsh isn't lighting it up there, he'll get cut..

Hope so, but Stevens drafting non shooters -- Walsh, JD and Bergeron -- and trading for non shooters -- Springer -- hasn't worked out so far...

[GrandTheftRondo]

Celtics are excellent at making trades under Brad, mediocre at best at drafting. Flemming at 28 and one of the bigs (Kalkbrenner) at 32 was such an obvious draft.

Maybe Hugo was the only guy that agreed not to come over so Celtics can save some more $ for the new owners. I hope that's not the case.

Hugo was such a disappointment for Madrid this year, hypothetical player that's not good/great at anything. Basically, Abrines 2.0.

What's you just described is what I just saw on video. Doesn't look apparently good at anything. Meanwhile, facts are facts, he shot 27% for 3 years. That is not a small sample size.

Plenty of players have shot mediocre from 3 and improve in the NBA.

He’s raw but I don’t mind the pick.

If he becomes good he looks like another wing that can handle the ball and make plays, something we could definitely do with because we are very reliant on Tatum.

[Hal14]

If we weren't going to take a big, I would have much preferred Penda..

I'm with you here. Penda/Fleming was kinda my hope. But, I'm still good with Hugo as long as we get one of those 2 tomorrow.

Even if you put him above jordan walsh, he's technically our fifth wing behind brown white hauser and rico. All while not even having a decent, powerful forward or center.. I'm sorry but that is just horrible..

White is not a wing.

Hauser is likely getting traded.

On the wing next season we basically just have Brown. And off the bench a shooter (Scheierman) and a high energy, athletic defender (Hugo).

Walsh too, but only $200K of his contract is guaranteed. This draft pick might signal that Walsh will get cut, or traded..unless he has a big summer league..though he might get traded before summer league..

[fallguy]

You say facts and negativity, so what is 24%? Sounds like a facts and negativity to me.

I have no idea what this post is supposed to mean.

That he is a wing and shot twenty four percent from three last season and twenty seven percent in the last three years.

When he was 16-19? That's hardly a kill shot for his career. Let's be honest here - you don't know a thing about this kid.

[VeryMuchWoke]

Celtics are excellent at making trades under Brad, mediocre at best at drafting. Flemming at 28 and one of the bigs (Kalkbrenner) at 32 was such an obvious draft.

Maybe Hugo was the only guy that agreed not to come over so Celtics can save some more $ for the new owners. I hope that's not the case.

Hugo was such a disappointment for Madrid this year, hypothetical player that's not good/great at anything. Basically, Abrines 2.0.

What's you just described is what I just saw on video. Doesn't look apparently good at anything. Meanwhile, facts are facts, he shot 27% for 3 years. That is not a small sample size.

When we got White he wasn't a 3 point shooter and Brad said he'd become one. Brad has a pretty good track record with projecting shooting.

[playa-hater]

The red flag on Fleming must be the size of Mount Everest...

He's ranked 32 on Sam Vecenie's board, from The Athletic.

https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2025/06/18185319/2025-NBA-Draft-Guide-Intl-Updates.pdf

Vecenie on his podcast said that some teams like him but others see him as nothing more than a 2-way contract player.

Vecenie also said on his pod that Fleming "has no idea where he is going on defense".

But it's apparently a fireable offense that Brad didn't take him?

Why are you being dramatic? No one is calling for Brad to get fired.. My God, if somebody disagrees with a professional. It's like everyone's an idiot. And yet a few years later, these professionals get proven wrong all the time.

Meanwhile, quite a few of us hated that danny traded desmond Bane for nothing.. Danny Ange knows more than us. Of course, and yet the player he just gave away was just traded for 4 first round picks and a swap.

[SuperDeluxe]

Haven't multiple sources just said the Celtics are bringing the guy over now?

Yes but that fact gets in the way of the rampant negativity.

You say facts and negativity, so what is 24%? Sounds like a facts and negativity to me.

Down to 24% already? It was 27% when he was drafted. This kid must suck.

[Hal14]

The red flag on Fleming must be the size of Mount Everest...

He's ranked 32 on Sam Vecenie's board, from The Athletic.

https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2025/06/18185319/2025-NBA-Draft-Guide-Intl-Updates.pdf

Vecenie on his podcast said that some teams like him but others see him as nothing more than a 2-way contract player.

Vecenie also said on his pod that Fleming "has no idea where he is going on defense".

But it's apparently a fireable offense that Brad didn't take him?

I didn't say that.

[playa-hater]

Celtics are excellent at making trades under Brad, mediocre at best at drafting. Flemming at 28 and one of the bigs (Kalkbrenner) at 32 was such an obvious draft.

Maybe Hugo was the only guy that agreed not to come over so Celtics can save some more $ for the new owners. I hope that's not the case.

Hugo was such a disappointment for Madrid this year, hypothetical player that's not good/great at anything. Basically, Abrines 2.0.

What's you just described is what I just saw on video. Doesn't look apparently good at anything. Meanwhile, facts are facts, he shot 27% for 3 years. That is not a small sample size.

When we got White he wasn't a 3 point shooter and Brad said he'd become one. Brad has a pretty good track record with projecting shooting.

So then what happened to jordan walsh and his shooting? And white improved as a shooter. But when he was on San Antonio, he wasn't bad. He just wasn't as good as he is now

[return2glory]

And who is he exactly going to be playing over.. That's a joke

Cooper Flagg would be playing for Maine Celtics if we drafted him, with Joe as coach.

Oh please.

Stop being ridiculous.

We’ve had zero good rookies worth playing on a contender in Joe’s time there.

Joe is no different to any other contending coach. You don’t get any burn as a rookie unless you’re exceptional.

That was a joke. Flagg would be balling out from day 1.

[fallguy]

He's ranked 32 on Sam Vecenie's board, from The Athletic.

https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/uploads/wp/2025/06/18185319/2025-NBA-Draft-Guide-Intl-Updates.pdf

Vecenie on his podcast said that some teams like him but others see him as nothing more than a 2-way contract player.

Vecenie also said on his pod that Fleming "has no idea where he is going on defense".

But it's apparently a fireable offense that Brad didn't take him?

Why are you being dramatic? No one is calling for Brad to get fired.. My God, if somebody disagrees with a professional. It's like everyone's an idiot. And yet a few years later, these professionals get proven wrong all the time.

Meanwhile, quite a few of us hated that danny traded desmond Bane for nothing.. Danny Ange knows more than us. Of course, and yet the player he just gave away was just traded for 4 first round picks and a swap.

You're just losing your **** constantly and we're barely a few days into this. Calm down. Brad is good at this. Let's see where we are by the end of the summer.

[Shak_Celts]

One of our main players Brad didn’t name once, even when he went down who’s staying, Hauser. Could mean nothing.