2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

[dckingsfan]

These two guys will kill it in Summer league. Get Bub, Kyshawn, and Sarr on the team and it will be bombs away from deep all game

If we bring all our youngsters to summer league, we could win it all... just sayin'

[gambitx777]

I'm not a fan of the ambiguous position less dudes . I like guys who play a role . But I'm open minded on the guy. Wolf seems to be falling maybe we snag him tomorrow


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[80sballboy]

I like Tre and don’t mind Riley, but I question if Dawkins has the ability to get what he wants.

I’m sure we’ll hear in the press conference that those were our guys and that this is a long process. But what good are all these tradable assets, picks and cap flexibility if you can’t move up 1 spot for a high upside player that WANTS to play for you? Or 3-5 picks in the middle of the 1st for a center that fits and plays in your backyard? (2 actually)

I think there's a method to his madness with all the 2nd round picks, future first and swaps. If we can't draft a star, due to bad luck, try and find a future one in a trade or sign one. And I know there are few stars are out there, which is why Luka is getting skinny so he'll get the supermax. Next best thing is to find a very good player, and go the Indiana route. It's not like OKC has great stars surroudning SGA, but they have very good players in Jalen and Chet. Or we have no hope and Dawkins/Winger can only do so much w/o some lottery luck.

Look, I would have loved Ace and I'd like to hear if or what we offered for him. Unless they think Tre could be the next Ray Allen and they were smokescreening us. WFT knows.

[TGW]

New wizards record: only took 22 minutes after the draft ends to proclaim our picks now as 0/7.

I'd say maybe let them play a game first, but they aren't even back to their hotel rooms yet.

I said they were 0/5 a month ago, and I had Johnson on my DO NOT DRAFT list two weeks ago, so how did you not think I wasn't going to shxt on tonight bro?

And they've played games...and they suck fat dongs. But like I said in the Dawkins thread, the actual NBA season for the Gizzards is actually the offseason. Filler in between the draft and free agency. This board's engagement goes thru the roof during draft time. But come January, you're going to have 2 page game threads because no one gives a flying rats about this team. We are here because we like arguing over draft picks, making fake trade ideas that never happen, and general banter. But as far as this team goes...there's nothing to talk about. They suck. And they're going to suck with Dawkins because Dawkins isn't the answer. Sorry to burst your bubble my man, but it is what it is.

[DCZards]

I like Tre and don’t mind Riley, but I question if Dawkins has the ability to get what he wants.

I’m sure we’ll hear in the press conference that those were our guys and that this is a long process. But what good are all these tradable assets, picks and cap flexibility if you can’t move up 1 spot for a high upside player that WANTS to play for you? Or 3-5 picks in the middle of the 1st for a center that fits and plays in your backyard? (2 actually)

I’m pretty sure Utah drafted Bailey because they also see his high upside and they had no interest in trading the pick.

[AFM]

New wizards record: only took 22 minutes after the draft ends to proclaim our picks now as 0/7.

I'd say maybe let them play a game first, but they aren't even back to their hotel rooms yet.

I said they were 0/5 a month ago, and I had Johnson on my DO NOT DRAFT list two weeks ago, so how did you not think I wasn't going to shxt on tonight bro?

And they've played games...and they suck fat dongs. But like I said in the Dawkins thread, the actual NBA season for the Gizzards is actually the offseason. Filler in between the draft and free agency. This board's engagement goes thru the roof during draft time. But come January, you're going to have 2 page game threads because no one gives a flying rats about this team. We are here because we like arguing over draft picks, making fake trade ideas that never happen, and general banter. But as far as this team goes...there's nothing to talk about. They suck. And they're going to suck with Dawkins because Dawkins isn't the answer. Sorry to burst your bubble my man, but it is what it is.

It's a free country you can believe whatever you want. I don't agree with a single part of this though.

[The Consiglieri]

New wizards record: only took 22 minutes after the draft ends to proclaim our picks now as 0/7.

I'd say maybe let them play a game first, but they aren't even back to their hotel rooms yet.

I said they were 0/5 a month ago, and I had Johnson on my DO NOT DRAFT list two weeks ago, so how did you not think I wasn't going to shxt on tonight bro?

And they've played games...and they suck fat dongs. But like I said in the Dawkins thread, the actual NBA season for the Gizzards is actually the offseason. Filler in between the draft and free agency. This board's engagement goes thru the roof during draft time. But come January, you're going to have 2 page game threads because no one gives a flying rats about this team. We are here because we like arguing over draft picks, making fake trade ideas that never happen, and general banter. But as far as this team goes...there's nothing to talk about. They suck. And they're going to suck with Dawkins because Dawkins isn't the answer. Sorry to burst your bubble my man, but it is what it is.

Guilty as charged for the bolded.

[Dat2U]

Riley gives Johnny Davis vibes, minus the defense

Just say you never watched the kid. The only similarity is the skin color & playing in the big ten.

[NatP4]

Riley gives Johnny Davis vibes, minus the defense

Just say you never watched the kid. The only similarity is the skin color & playing in the big ten.

My bad, they also both shot 32% from 3 in college

[80sballboy]

Grades so far CBS Sports
A for Tre; C+ for Riley
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2025-nba-draft-grades-live-pick-by-pick-analysis-updates-draft-order-for-all-30-round-1-selections/

SI.com
B- for Tre; B+ for Riley
https://www.si.com/nba/nba-draft-first-round-grades-every-selection-from-cooper-flagg-to-no-30

Good analysis from Vecenie/Hollinger
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6451301/2025/06/25/nba-draft-grades-analysis-2025-jvecenie-hollinger/

Yahoo (KOC)
A for Tre; C+ for Riley
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/2025-nba-draft-grades-first-round-pick-by-pick-analysis--mavs-get-a-for-cooper-flagg-but-ace-bailey-to-utah-005203090.html

[AFM]

I like Will Riley more than I do Carter Bryant. Mainly due to the handle and Will has excellent length. Riley has 3-level scoring potential and is a real sleeper

[AFM]

6. Washington Wizards

Tre Johnson | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | Texas

Vecenie’s ranking: 5

I’m a believer in Johnson’s game and demeanor. I respect the way he goes about his craft and think he’s going to keep getting better as he ages. Ultimately, two things will be key to his reaching his upside. First, he’s going to have to get stronger. He needs to be able to displace players on his drives a bit more effectively. He’s not afraid of contact. The good news there is he’s only 19 and a worker. He will get stronger. The second point will simply be fit. It would behoove him to land in a situation that allows him to streamline his offensive game early into being more of a high-level floor spacer and movement shooter who attacks off closeouts as opposed to being tasked with creating a significant amount of his team’s offense. Hopefully, that would allow him to get minutes on the court early, then continue to flow into the rest of his game off the bounce, where he can use the threat of his shot to expand his game as he gets older and stronger.

The median/downside outcome of Johnson reminds me of a bigger version of Malik Beasley, and I don’t mean that as a negative. Beasley has averaged about 14 points per game while shooting 39 percent from 3 on seriously high volume over the last five years and is going to earn nearly nine figures by the time it’s done. It’s just hard for shooters like Johnson to fail much more than that in today’s NBA. If Johnson can be a better, bigger version of that, who doesn’t need to be hidden defensively as often and can make better decisions consistently, he’s a definite NBA starter. These are all achievable outcomes, too. But there are some outcomes where he develops into a 25-point-per-game guy and potentially reaches the All-Star game.

Hollinger’s analysis: One rumor making the rounds is that the Ace Bailey non-workout controversy was all part of a plan to ensure he landed in Washington. Welp. I wasn’t as high on Johnson as others, but the Wizards need help across the board and he was the best player available on several public draft boards. Washington now has a surfeit of shooting guards with C.J. McCollum, Marcus Smart and Bub Carrington, but trades will likely have that worked out that by midseason.

[Dat2U]

Read on Twitter

Front office been reading my tweets.

[smoothSeph]

I like Tre and don’t mind Riley, but I question if Dawkins has the ability to get what he wants.

I’m sure we’ll hear in the press conference that those were our guys and that this is a long process. But what good are all these tradable assets, picks and cap flexibility if you can’t move up 1 spot for a high upside player that WANTS to play for you? Or 3-5 picks in the middle of the 1st for a center that fits and plays in your backyard? (2 actually)

I’m pretty sure Utah drafted Bailey because they also see his high upside and they had no interest in trading the pick.

Yea, I bet.

[miller31time]

Feeling very “meh,” mostly due to the unexpected hype of getting Ace (who has that superstar potential we so desperately need), then being swiftly kicked in the balls by Danny Ainge. Johnson looks great for what he is. But these drafts almost have to produce a superstar for us to have any shot in the next few years and I don’t see “superstar” in Tre.

Didn’t watch much of Riley this year so I’ll withhold judgement on him but just from a pure needs assessment, wanted to see us draft a big (specifically Newell, who Kevin Broom had as the 6th-best prospect in this draft based on YODA).

[TheBlackCzar]

He's not quick or fast.... We don't have anybody beyond CJ or AJ who can actually drive to the rim with any consistency.... We don't have any defensive C.... Sarr is a 4 until he gets stronger....

Such a let down... Having skill with blah athleticism is not going to win us any titles... I'll wait and see but I'm starting to get underwhelmed by picking all these projects who aren't elite at anything.....

I'd rather have traded 18 to move up and get Ace....

I suggest you check out the video of Riley posted on this page. A lot of the highlights are of him getting to the rim off the dribble.

The Big Ten is not the NBA.....

[DCZards]

Look, I would have loved Ace and I'd like to hear if or what we offered for him. Unless they think Tre could be the next Ray Allen and they were smokescreening us. WFT knows.

That's a question I have as well. Many of us here wanted Bailey to fall to 6 and for the Zards to draft him. But is that who the Zards FO wanted? Would they have still drafted Tre even if Ace was available?

[Dat2U]

The last time a team completely nailed my picks was OkC in 2022 when they drafted Chet Holmgren, Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, and Jaylin Williams. While Dieng didn't quite workout, aquirimg two-thirds of your championship big 3 in one draff is not shabby.

[dobrojim]

I like Will Riley more than I do Carter Bryant. Mainly due to the handle and Will has excellent length. Riley has 3-level scoring potential and is a real sleeper

That's encouraging as someone who really liked Bryant.

[DCZards]

This board's engagement goes thru the roof during draft time. But come January, you're going to have 2 page game threads because no one gives a flying rats about this team.

You're going to have two-page game threads because most of us avoid game threads and the incessant bitchin' and moanin' of the 3-4 posters on it.