With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[manjusaka]

What do you guys think now? Can he play SF?

He can probably defend SF, offensively he is more a PF. SB’s can take SF.

[RaptorPride]

What do you guys think now? Can he play SF?

He can probably defend SF, offensively he is more a PF. SB’s can take SF.

This is gonna be fun. With him saying his strength is the best thing about him. And Scotties crack head strength. They could be a crazy defensive duo for years to come. And they both are willing passers.

[Clutch0z24]

Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...

[Yallbecrazy]

His numbers in year 1 and year 2 were remarkably similar per 100 possessions/per 40 minutes. Advanced stats close too. On one hand it's good that his efficiency and hustle stats didn't drop with more minutes, but you'd hope he would show a bigger jump year over year.

Year 1 teammates:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/south-carolina/men/2024.html

Year 2 teammates:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/south-carolina/men/2025.html

Competition got significantly better too.
4% increase in usage and going from good spacing with the 3 solid 5th year senior guards who could shoot to complete and utter **** spacing and supporting cast will have an impact on your efficiency. His assist to turnover ratio started poorly as he adapted to being the only initiator surrounded by guys who couldn't shoot. The turnovers dropped significantly during conference play despite the competition getting better. The efficiency also went up some too when he faced coaches who didn't constantly double him every time the ball started to move toward him.

If he only improved a small amount across the board from year 1 to 2 his efficiency stats would have still dropped a lot just from the extra attention and worse passing to him/ spacing around him.

[S.W.A.N]

This post from a Raptors fan who predicted we'd draft CMB got me hyped. Masai has done it again.

https://www.reddit.com/r/torontoraptors/s/XI7BROSr8F

Seriously worth the read. If that don't get you hyped for the pick, something wrong with you!!

[RaptorPride]

Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...

I think if CMB gets a decent shot he will be. OGs ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the basket is pretty bad. CMB is already way better than him at that it seems. You could say CMB is Sabonis with Kawhi defence with Randles ability to attack the rim. He is a very unique player build and I don't think there's really anyone like him in the NBA.

Scottie and CMB gotta be able to play 3-5 from now on.

[Appostis]

Quickley/Shead/Walter
Barrett/Dick/Lawson
Ingram/Agbaji/Battle
Barnes/Collin-Boyles/Mogbo
Poeltl/Reynaud/Chomche

='Ship

If Barnes turns into Giannis and Ingram is healthy, And Barrett becomes a sniper 3 point shooter....Sure...

But thats a 6th/7th/8th seed first round exit team.

...have you looked at the east recently?

[Appostis]

Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...

I think if CMB gets a decent shot he will be. OGs ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the basket is pretty bad. CMB is already way better than him at that it seems. You could say CMB is Sabonis with Kawhi defence with Randles ability to attack the rim. He is a very unique player build and I don't think there's really anyone like him in the NBA.

Scottie and CMB gotta be able to play 3-5 from now on.

You kinda just sold me on the fit.

[S.W.A.N]

Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...

Fit is something you figure out later. draft talent.

OG is an unicorn, he fits any anywhere because he guards 1-5 and shoots the 3.

You certainly can play CMB and Scotty together. Yak and Scotty work great together.

The real question is how will Scotty Yak and CMB work together... Will the potentially elite d survive the lack of shooting? Probably not in the first year but it won't matter as I doubt we try that lineup very often.

I'd bet to start (assuming no trades) CMB is going to play lots of minutes with RJ/BI and Dick/Walter and either IQ/Shead.

Logic being Barnes will get majority of his mins with the starting and finishing lineups. CMB will begin as a bench mob guy.

[S.W.A.N]

Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...

I think if CMB gets a decent shot he will be. OGs ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the basket is pretty bad. CMB is already way better than him at that it seems. You could say CMB is Sabonis with Kawhi defence with Randles ability to attack the rim. He is a very unique player build and I don't think there's really anyone like him in the NBA.

Scottie and CMB gotta be able to play 3-5 from now on.

that reddit post compared him to Queen offensively which is very Sabonis/Randle combo like.

[RoteSchroder]

Two different approaches, which side wins:

CMB
Scottie Barnes
Jonathan Mogbo
Ochai Agbaji
Jamal Shead

VS

Danny Wolf
Egor Demin
Ben Saraf
Cam Thomas
Nolan Traore

[raincityraptors]

My favorite Raptor of all time is Gasol. He was a maestro on offence and defense. You could watch him on any play and see how he was contributing to winning.

On some plays, CMB is like that. His floor is high but I hope his ceiling is too. He's worth developing, can contribute on day one and will make a playoff rotation.

If we end up trading RJ, I know who my new favorite player on the team is.

Thanks Masai, Bobby and the scouting team.

[Orange Balls]

It's not that CMB doesn't have some skills but he is a low ceiling guy and we could have done much better. Trading back would have been better.

A big do it all forward with question marks shooting wise are like the definition of high ceilings

Huh...are you being sarcastic?Edit: I understand what you meant now but I don't think he ever becomes a shooter. Ever.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Lonzo Ball for RJ Barrett, anyone?

Quickley/Shead/Walter
Ball/Dick/Lawson
Ingram/Agbaji/Battle
Barnes/Collin-Boyles/Mogbo
Poeltl/Reynaud/Chomche

[Orange Balls]

My favorite Raptor of all time is Gasol. He was a maestro on offence and defense. You could watch him on any play and see how he was contributing to winning.

On some plays, CMB is like that. His floor is high but I hope his ceiling is too. He's worth developing, can contribute on day one and will make a playoff rotation.

If we end up trading RJ, I know who my new favorite player on the team is.

Thanks Masai, Bobby and the scouting team.

He reminds me of Yang.

[TakeYourHeart]

After watching some tape, seems like a very clear case of don't overthink it, don't overindex on the 3pt shot. He's BPA.

[XTC]

Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...

People throw comparisions like OG, Draymond, because they hear hes the best defender in the draft... but those comparisions dont really do him justice. FWIW I've probably seen CMB play around 6 times, at first I wasn't a big fan at all(I think I compared him to Kyle Anderson), but the kids game kept growing on me the more I watched him, and by the end of the draft I was a believer.

Yes he needs to work on his 3 point shooting, but he was pretty solid from mid range, creating his shot on a awful team efficiently. He has an offensive bag, and he knows how to get to the rim, which makes him deadly because he has a super soft touch... and the kid is SUPER strong, its not even funny. If he was hitting 3's this year, this draft has 3 potential stars in Flagg, Harper, and CMB. People are going to be pleasantly surprised with him IMO. He's a great defender, rebounder, a solid passer, he draws fouls at an elite rate, he knows how to create his shot, and he has the ability to get to the rim. If his jumper catches up, you're looking at an allstar easily.

If you're looking for a comparision, offensively he kind of reminds me of a Julius Randle/Scottie Barnes mix. He likes to operate on the elbow, and hes a willing passer, who makes quick reads. The jumper isnt there, but he knows how to use his strength, size, and ball handling to get to his spots, to either get to the rim or get fouled. Super high IQ offensively + defensively.

If you look at my post history, I said the same thing about Scottie pre draft. CMB is a baller, and I love his fit next to Scottie. The shooting isnt there yet, but you got two big wings, who are athletic, handle + pass the ball, and defend on their level... I think they're going to be terrifying together in a good way. In a couple years hes going to be up there with Flagg, and Harper in their own tier in this draft IMO.

[RaptorPride]

It's not that CMB doesn't have some skills but he is a low ceiling guy and we could have done much better. Trading back would have been better.

A big do it all forward with question marks shooting wise are like the definition of high ceilings

Huh...are you being sarcastic?

The more I look into him I feel like he is top 3-5 on potential in this draft because he is already decent at everything but shooting. Which if he gets it's game over.

[RaptorPride]

Two different approaches, which side wins:

CMB
Scottie Barnes
Jonathan Mogbo
Ochai Agbaji
Jamal Shead

VS

Danny Wolf
Egor Demin
Ben Saraf
Cam Thomas
Nolan Traore

I'm a fan of both. But Brooklyn is possibly adding a top 3 pick next year to that core. And another lottery pick the year after. That team can easily become stacked over night. TWO members of this board will be super jealous of them.

[HoopAndTheHarm]

Can't shoot or create.

Yep. 75% of his shots were under the rim and he hit less than 2/3's. That's against college competition. He'll be facing bigger and more athletic defenders. His jumper and FT need a huge improvement.

While he's being touted as a defensive guy, some of the knocks on him are that his lateral movement is sub par and he lacks quickness and vertical explosiveness. He's not considered a great athlete, which is subjective given the pool of comparisons (all NBA players are better athletes than 99% of the world), but that's what he'll be up against every game so the comparison must be made.

Sooo... we just got a less athletic Mogbo.

I hate Duke pretty much more than any other team in college basketball, but I was all in on Maluach for quite some time. I think passing on him will come back to haunt them.