With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

[OakleyDokely]

This is what it looks like when someone doesn't want to be there:

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Utah's a great spot for him. Good coaching staff, Markannen is there to take some of the offensive pressure off him, but there's still not much depth on that team so he will get plenty of shots/opportunity. His management team clusterf'd their way into a good situation for him.

[DG88]

Watched some of his tapes yesterday. This morning the Rondae Hollis Jefferson comparison made by a poster isn't that far off.

Thinking of other undersized PF/C's who didn't have much of a shot: Joey Graham, Justice Winslow, Pops Mensah Bonsu, DeJuan Blair, PJ Tucker. And I brought up Corliss Williamson who is probably the best case scenario.

Masai is really good at what he does, but the history of undersized players that cant shoot the ball is pretty ****.

Charles Barkley was a long time ago

If he doesn't develop a shot or can't finish with authority around the basket, which is his comfort zone, he will be forced to take a mid range which he should be okay with, or else he will struggle being really far out near the 3 point line.

I don't know which direction the game is headed with SGA having success and the Pacers, but if the mid ranger is here to say there just might be some promise here.

Not exactly optimistic about the pick but I'm rootin for all this year

CMB had one of the best finishing rates at the basket in the toughest conference in college basketball. He's also a very good passer and processes the game at a high level. You're short changing his talent.

[ATLTimekeeper]

He might have just reacted strangely, but for people saying he wouldn’t have worked out with us if he didn’t want to be here, you are assuming he felt like he had that kind of leverage. That’s the kind of thing consensus top 2-3 picks can maybe afford to do, and even then it comes with a risk/cost. Guys ranked mid-to-low lottery generally just suck it up and go wherever they were drafted.

Toronto’s a great city, though, and plenty of guys who weren’t wild about the idea of coming here end up loving it. Otoh to many Americans Toronto might as well be on the moon. Americans generally know and care little about the world outside of the U.S. and with Trump’s crap lately there is growing antipathy to Canada. If that’s the case there’s not much we can do about it, but meanwhile he has very little leverage; what agency players get mainly come into play when they hit the market, before that it’s damned near indentured servitude, albeit richly rewarded.

Or it might not be as much hating Toronto as having had a strong preference/hope for a specific team and we were not that team. If so he’s even less likely to be a problem, he had to realize that going to your top choice was a long shot, although maybe he was getting ‘if you’re there at ___ we’re picking you’ conversations which might have raised his hopes. But at the end of the day it’s a business, and unless he’s an idiot he realizes that much, and I expect that he’ll do and say all the right things for at least a while. His dream came mostly true, he’s a lottery pick playing in the NBA, he’s probably been imagining this for many years.

I don’t expect a problem unless the Raptors were incompetent in their assessments of his character/personality.

First point is incorrect. Players and their agents restrict workouts all through the first round. imo he said glowing things, knowledgable things about our organization at the combine and was here first, so I think it's probable that he wanted to be here. Compare it to Queen, who used his platform to bring up taxes and just did a walkabout looking for a Target. That's a guy that didn't want to play here.

I do think that it's possible he thought he was going higher. I think the Demin pick was kinda a surprise. If it's true that he didn't have the information ahead of time he might have been contemplating a slide and then expressing relief.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[Raptorfan2012]

It looks like the board went from 'Draft for BPA' to 'No! Not like that!' real quick.

[JCP11]

I like CMB's skillset, a very talented player, cool guy but i dont see the fit with our current roster, sadly... after 4 years, masai still has no vision, wtf is this guy doing... ujiri needs a change of scenery

The goal is to draft good players and figure out things later, that's how it works and no he doesn't need a change of scenery. I bet you we'll see CMB ball out from the get go in summer league and people will change their tune in a second.

[Ackshun]

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Gotta find the next Steph Curry now. lol

[Duffman100]

Watched some of his tapes yesterday. This morning the Rondae Hollis Jefferson comparison made by a poster isn't that far off.

Thinking of other undersized PF/C's who didn't have much of a shot: Joey Graham, Justice Winslow, Pops Mensah Bonsu, DeJuan Blair, PJ Tucker. And I brought up Corliss Williamson who is probably the best case scenario.

Masai is really good at what he does, but the history of undersized players that cant shoot the ball is pretty ****.

Charles Barkley was a long time ago

If he doesn't develop a shot or can't finish with authority around the basket, which is his comfort zone, he will be forced to take a mid range which he should be okay with, or else he will struggle being really far out near the 3 point line.

I don't know which direction the game is headed with SGA having success and the Pacers, but if the mid ranger is here to say there just might be some promise here.

Not exactly optimistic about the pick but I'm rootin for all this year

CMB had one of the best finishing rates at the basket in the toughest conference in college basketball. He's also a very good passer and processes the game at a high level. You're short changing his talent.

The first thing I noticed on highlights is how well he uses his body and girth to create separation and room to finish. Kid already knows how to use his physical size at 19/20 - that's great.

[OakleyDokely]

I think he's a really underrated offensive player. He wasn't a spare part on the offensive end. He had a usage rate comparable to guys like Ace, Tre, Harper etc and he was very efficient in that role. He was the driver of the SC offense and he did a lot of his damage in the post, breaking down his defender off the dribble, getting to the line at a high rate and creating for others.

[Godaddycurse]

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Gotta find the next Steph Curry now. lol

IQ = poor man curry
Ingram = poor man durant
Barnes/CMB = poor man green

[YogurtProducer]

And just like that, the Noa Essengue stans disappeared.

It's possible to like more than 1 player in a draft.

Some posters I think find it difficult to understand when other people don’t spam the board with their opinions, because they know they would if the roles flipped lol

We got CMB, what’s the point of whining we didn’t take X Y or Z when in reality none of us know **** about prospects (and the ones who pretend to are full of ****)

[OakleyDokely]

And just like that, the Noa Essengue stans disappeared.

It's possible to like more than 1 player in a draft.

Some posters I think find it difficult to understand when other people don’t spam the board with their opinions, because they know they would if the roles flipped lol

We got CMB, what’s the point of whining we didn’t take X Y or Z when in reality none of us know **** about prospects (and the ones who pretend to are full of ****)

Also, why would people talk about Essgenue in CMB thread?

[MoneyBall]

Personally, I preferred Bryant, but I trust our scouting staff.

[Duffman100]

It's possible to like more than 1 player in a draft.

Some posters I think find it difficult to understand when other people don’t spam the board with their opinions, because they know they would if the roles flipped lol

We got CMB, what’s the point of whining we didn’t take X Y or Z when in reality none of us know **** about prospects (and the ones who pretend to are full of ****)

Also, why would people talk about Essgenue in CMB thread?

To complain. Which to YP's point is sometimes just not people's cup of tea.

To me, I can't control this. Masai has a fantastic drafting record. Funny that I see a few of the same names that claimed Barnes was a disaster pick.

It's okay to just not know and wait to see what happens.

[johanliebert]

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Gotta find the next Steph Curry now. lol

IQ = poor man curry
Ingram = poor man durant
Barnes/CMB = poor man green

People need to dead the barnes and dray comparison. Dray is a connector not a pg/playmaker.

[Spates]

Gotta find the next Steph Curry now. lol

IQ = poor man curry
Ingram = poor man durant
Barnes/CMB = poor man green

People need to dead the barnes and dray comparison. Dray is a connector not a pg/playmaker.

Gradey Dick

[OakleyDokely]

Some posters I think find it difficult to understand when other people don’t spam the board with their opinions, because they know they would if the roles flipped lol

We got CMB, what’s the point of whining we didn’t take X Y or Z when in reality none of us know **** about prospects (and the ones who pretend to are full of ****)

Also, why would people talk about Essgenue in CMB thread?

To complain. Which to YP's point is sometimes just not people's cup of tea.

To me, I can't control this. Masai has a fantastic drafting record. Funny that I see a few of the same names that claimed Barnes was a disaster pick.

It's okay to just not know and wait to see what happens.

I would've been equally excited if we picked Essengue or Coward or Maluach or Bryant. I think there were a lot of interesting prospects at our spot. I'm not sure there was a bad option, unless the Raps went completely off board.

[Psubs]

I like CMB's skillset, a very talented player, cool guy but i dont see the fit with our current roster, sadly... after 4 years, masai still has no vision, wtf is this guy doing... ujiri needs a change of scenery

The goal is to draft good players and figure out things later, that's how it works and no he doesn't need a change of scenery. I bet you we'll see CMB ball out from the get go in summer league and people will change their tune in a second.

He'll probably be a rotation player right away like Mogbo, but stronger.

[MoneyBall]

I can now sleep well knowing Masai didn't desperately want Maluach.

[djsunyc]

Two different approaches, which side wins:

CMB
Scottie Barnes
Jonathan Mogbo
Ochai Agbaji
Jamal Shead

VS

Danny Wolf
Egor Demin
Ben Saraf
Cam Thomas
Nolan Traore

I'm a fan of both. But Brooklyn is possibly adding a top 3 pick next year to that core. And another lottery pick the year after. That team can easily become stacked over night. TWO members of this board will be super jealous of them.

2 years is not overnight