2025 NBA Draft Thread 2.0

[tiderulz]

I had Warriors no 23 Jason Richardson jersey, dude had legit Jordan-like dunks in early 2000s, it is bit strange that Jase is so much shorter than Jason.

Dude went from 6'3 in shoes and alleged some 190-200 pounds to 6'1 in shoes and sub 180 pounds. That pretty much iced his draft stock because he is even too small for traditional PG, let alone combo guard or shooting guard. He also is nowhere near as explosive or quick as Jason was. Jason was legit human grenade attacking rim.


I have no clue what to expect, hopefully his ball handling isn't THAT bad and playmaking can be improved.


Draft was bit strange, i really expected some crazy trades. Ofc it can still all happen. But very quiet night.
Grizzlies used one of Magic picks to get Cedric Coward.
Coward is, on paper, perfect prospect. 6'6 -214, lean, 38 inch vertical, almost 7'3 wingspan, can shoot, like dude looks like long lost Kawhi's brother. Even their playing style is very, very similar. We'll se how it works for Grizzlies, but, just how i felt about Bane trade from their POV, it's another trade offer that was hard to resist.

Nets drafting was interesting. I am bit shocked that Traore fell to #19. Scouts/GMs got him wrong imo. He was 18 years old kid in French league, that is without any questions, second most athletic league in the world behind NBA.
Wemby in that league, at 18, wasn't really "popping", it was year later when he popped up and looked how he looked that granted him "best prospect since Lebron "title.
Traore can organize offense, has strong handles and can pass better than vast majority of players of his age. He had terrible start of a season, but actually was really good at the end.
Egor thing is crazy. Kid is legit one of most exiting passers over size 6'5 i've seen in very, very long period of time. Like, watching love child of Kukoc and Jason Williams.
Most people will slap that lazy "Giddey" comparison, but he is way better in traditional pick&roll and better athlete, and much better at generating own shots around rim in pick&roll ( shot 61% at rim in half court ). And 6'9- with 32 inch vert. Nothing groundbreaking, but also not bad at all for that size. Unlike Giddey he looks like he has body where you can put muscle on him without much problems, where Giddey always looked like Justin Bieber megafan who lacks testosterone
Shooting needs to get much better. Much, much better.
Powell should be 3 and D wing.
And Wolf and Saraf are interesting. Not that high on them but whatever.

I'll be watching some Nets games, that's very interesting haul from draft to me.



I think Hornets should have made trade down, Kon, to me, is overdrafted.


Oh and Dallas won a night 2 min into a draft

Orlando was never taking Coward if we hadnt traded the pick as he would have been behind Franz. They would have taken a SG or PG. Coward has bad creation skills and below level athleticism for NBA level.

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[pepe1991]

I had Warriors no 23 Jason Richardson jersey, dude had legit Jordan-like dunks in early 2000s, it is bit strange that Jase is so much shorter than Jason.

Dude went from 6'3 in shoes and alleged some 190-200 pounds to 6'1 in shoes and sub 180 pounds. That pretty much iced his draft stock because he is even too small for traditional PG, let alone combo guard or shooting guard. He also is nowhere near as explosive or quick as Jason was. Jason was legit human grenade attacking rim.


I have no clue what to expect, hopefully his ball handling isn't THAT bad and playmaking can be improved.


Draft was bit strange, i really expected some crazy trades. Ofc it can still all happen. But very quiet night.
Grizzlies used one of Magic picks to get Cedric Coward.
Coward is, on paper, perfect prospect. 6'6 -214, lean, 38 inch vertical, almost 7'3 wingspan, can shoot, like dude looks like long lost Kawhi's brother. Even their playing style is very, very similar. We'll se how it works for Grizzlies, but, just how i felt about Bane trade from their POV, it's another trade offer that was hard to resist.

Nets drafting was interesting. I am bit shocked that Traore fell to #19. Scouts/GMs got him wrong imo. He was 18 years old kid in French league, that is without any questions, second most athletic league in the world behind NBA.
Wemby in that league, at 18, wasn't really "popping", it was year later when he popped up and looked how he looked that granted him "best prospect since Lebron "title.
Traore can organize offense, has strong handles and can pass better than vast majority of players of his age. He had terrible start of a season, but actually was really good at the end.
Egor thing is crazy. Kid is legit one of most exiting passers over size 6'5 i've seen in very, very long period of time. Like, watching love child of Kukoc and Jason Williams.
Most people will slap that lazy "Giddey" comparison, but he is way better in traditional pick&roll and better athlete, and much better at generating own shots around rim in pick&roll ( shot 61% at rim in half court ). And 6'9- with 32 inch vert. Nothing groundbreaking, but also not bad at all for that size. Unlike Giddey he looks like he has body where you can put muscle on him without much problems, where Giddey always looked like Justin Bieber megafan who lacks testosterone
Shooting needs to get much better. Much, much better.
Powell should be 3 and D wing.
And Wolf and Saraf are interesting. Not that high on them but whatever.

I'll be watching some Nets games, that's very interesting haul from draft to me.



I think Hornets should have made trade down, Kon, to me, is overdrafted.


Oh and Dallas won a night 2 min into a draft

Orlando was never taking Coward if we hadnt traded the pick as he would have been behind Franz. They would have taken a SG or PG. Coward has bad creation skills and below level athleticism for NBA level.

and below level athleticism for NBA level

lol what? What are your standards? Lebron James or can't play in nba? Like, Aaron Gordon has near identical vertical measured as combine as Coward. (Gordon 39 max vert, Coward 38,5, literally identical standing vertical ).

At combine he had:
-4th fastest 3/4 sprint
-5th best standing vertical
-9th highest max vertical

guy also:
went 9/10 from FT line
18/25 from spot ups
23/30 from off dribble shots
17/25 for 3 straight forward (Top of key i guess? )

And his body data is just cartoonish, basically, every single ( wingspan, standing reach, hand length ) just assumes he is 6'9 at least. And he is 6'5 .

Guy is definition of "made in lab" body when it comes to all the tools that one player can have. He can still bust out, just like any player, but his "equipment" is - full.

It just feels like you REALLY want to hate everything Memphis does to feel better about Bane trade , that also shows how you really feel about Bane trade inside.
Grizzlies targeted Cedric before trade, even he himself said that he knew they had interest in him even during season.

Time will tell. But you can't talk nonsense like he ain't athletic. It's just crazy talk. He might be new Cam Reddish, has it all but can't turn into production. Or he can be next all star. But there are few things we know he has: crazy good body for basketball and height for modern SG-SF.

[Knightro]

Coward certainly checks all the boxes from a size and athleticism standpoint. And he also was very productive.

But... he's about to turn 22 years old and has basically never played a single meaningful game of basketball in college.

Two years in the Big Sky which is a very bad low level league and then he only played 6 games for Washington State this past year before getting hurt and missing the rest of the season.

I think he has a chance to be good, but he's a lot more unproven/inexperienced against elite competition than you'd like for guy that old.

[orlando_joe]

I had Warriors no 23 Jason Richardson jersey, dude had legit Jordan-like dunks in early 2000s, it is bit strange that Jase is so much shorter than Jason.

Dude went from 6'3 in shoes and alleged some 190-200 pounds to 6'1 in shoes and sub 180 pounds. That pretty much iced his draft stock because he is even too small for traditional PG, let alone combo guard or shooting guard. He also is nowhere near as explosive or quick as Jason was. Jason was legit human grenade attacking rim.


I have no clue what to expect, hopefully his ball handling isn't THAT bad and playmaking can be improved.


Draft was bit strange, i really expected some crazy trades. Ofc it can still all happen. But very quiet night.
Grizzlies used one of Magic picks to get Cedric Coward.
Coward is, on paper, perfect prospect. 6'6 -214, lean, 38 inch vertical, almost 7'3 wingspan, can shoot, like dude looks like long lost Kawhi's brother. Even their playing style is very, very similar. We'll se how it works for Grizzlies, but, just how i felt about Bane trade from their POV, it's another trade offer that was hard to resist.

Nets drafting was interesting. I am bit shocked that Traore fell to #19. Scouts/GMs got him wrong imo. He was 18 years old kid in French league, that is without any questions, second most athletic league in the world behind NBA.
Wemby in that league, at 18, wasn't really "popping", it was year later when he popped up and looked how he looked that granted him "best prospect since Lebron "title.
Traore can organize offense, has strong handles and can pass better than vast majority of players of his age. He had terrible start of a season, but actually was really good at the end.
Egor thing is crazy. Kid is legit one of most exiting passers over size 6'5 i've seen in very, very long period of time. Like, watching love child of Kukoc and Jason Williams.
Most people will slap that lazy "Giddey" comparison, but he is way better in traditional pick&roll and better athlete, and much better at generating own shots around rim in pick&roll ( shot 61% at rim in half court ). And 6'9- with 32 inch vert. Nothing groundbreaking, but also not bad at all for that size. Unlike Giddey he looks like he has body where you can put muscle on him without much problems, where Giddey always looked like Justin Bieber megafan who lacks testosterone
Shooting needs to get much better. Much, much better.
Powell should be 3 and D wing.
And Wolf and Saraf are interesting. Not that high on them but whatever.

I'll be watching some Nets games, that's very interesting haul from draft to me.



I think Hornets should have made trade down, Kon, to me, is overdrafted.


Oh and Dallas won a night 2 min into a draft

Orlando was never taking Coward if we hadnt traded the pick as he would have been behind Franz. They would have taken a SG or PG. Coward has bad creation skills and below level athleticism for NBA level.

and below level athleticism for NBA level

lol what? What are your standards? Lebron James or can't play in nba? Like, Aaron Gordon has near identical vertical measured as combine as Coward. (Gordon 39 max vert, Coward 38,5, literally identical standing vertical ).

At combine he had:
-4th fastest 3/4 sprint
-5th best standing vertical
-9th highest max vertical

guy also:
went 9/10 from FT line
18/25 from spot ups
23/30 from off dribble shots
17/25 for 3 straight forward (Top of key i guess? )

And his body data is just cartoonish, basically, every single ( wingspan, standing reach, hand length ) just assumes he is 6'9 at least. And he is 6'5 .

Guy is definition of "made in lab" body when it comes to all the tools that one player can have. He can still bust out, just like any player, but his "equipment" is - full.

It just feels like you REALLY want to hate everything Memphis does to feel better about Bane trade , that also shows how you really feel about Bane trade inside.
Grizzlies targeted Cedric before trade, even he himself said that he knew they had interest in him even during season.

Time will tell. But you can't talk nonsense like he ain't athletic. It's just crazy talk. He might be new Cam Reddish, has it all but can't turn into production. Or he can be next all star. But there are few things we know he has: crazy good body for basketball and height for modern SG-SF.

coward was gone at 11...pick 16 was hansen...magic would not going to move up for him without trade...so forever now that pick is hansen period...lol
magic did not give up coward and now its who portland picks in 28 or if they trade that pick is what magic gave up..who cares

[jonbob17]

Guys.. should we watch the 2nd round or do we expect Mr. Cash Considerstions to appear as usual?

We have 13 guys under contract, two of which have team options. I'd say we definitely have to add a lowish rookie salary, especially if we are going to try and use the MLE. If the pick turns into a 2 way...so be it.... Really we should be making both, and 57 is a 2 way or non guaranteed.

[89Magicfan]

Watching clips of him I was surprised to see how high he jumps. Knowing his old man had some hops I went and looked up his vert at the combine. 38 inches.

[jonbob17]

Every year i go through something similar to the stages of grief with Magic picks
1. Disbelief
2. Pain
3. Anger
4. Depression
5. Rationalization
6. All-in acceptance


It takes about 30 minutes to complete the cycle. i was even able to do this for the Jett Howard pick, though that house was built of straw.

9th in BPM out of all college players as a freshman who didn't start until 20 games into the season. Cooper Flagg was the clear leader of this stat.

Richardson looks like a bucket, but has some fleas(height, handle, passing), obviously he was available at 25. he's 19 and he has plenty of time to work on the latter two. As with all rookies it will depend on how hard he works, and how well he is able to figure out the NBA game.

[tiderulz]

I had Warriors no 23 Jason Richardson jersey, dude had legit Jordan-like dunks in early 2000s, it is bit strange that Jase is so much shorter than Jason.

Dude went from 6'3 in shoes and alleged some 190-200 pounds to 6'1 in shoes and sub 180 pounds. That pretty much iced his draft stock because he is even too small for traditional PG, let alone combo guard or shooting guard. He also is nowhere near as explosive or quick as Jason was. Jason was legit human grenade attacking rim.


I have no clue what to expect, hopefully his ball handling isn't THAT bad and playmaking can be improved.


Draft was bit strange, i really expected some crazy trades. Ofc it can still all happen. But very quiet night.
Grizzlies used one of Magic picks to get Cedric Coward.
Coward is, on paper, perfect prospect. 6'6 -214, lean, 38 inch vertical, almost 7'3 wingspan, can shoot, like dude looks like long lost Kawhi's brother. Even their playing style is very, very similar. We'll se how it works for Grizzlies, but, just how i felt about Bane trade from their POV, it's another trade offer that was hard to resist.

Nets drafting was interesting. I am bit shocked that Traore fell to #19. Scouts/GMs got him wrong imo. He was 18 years old kid in French league, that is without any questions, second most athletic league in the world behind NBA.
Wemby in that league, at 18, wasn't really "popping", it was year later when he popped up and looked how he looked that granted him "best prospect since Lebron "title.
Traore can organize offense, has strong handles and can pass better than vast majority of players of his age. He had terrible start of a season, but actually was really good at the end.
Egor thing is crazy. Kid is legit one of most exiting passers over size 6'5 i've seen in very, very long period of time. Like, watching love child of Kukoc and Jason Williams.
Most people will slap that lazy "Giddey" comparison, but he is way better in traditional pick&roll and better athlete, and much better at generating own shots around rim in pick&roll ( shot 61% at rim in half court ). And 6'9- with 32 inch vert. Nothing groundbreaking, but also not bad at all for that size. Unlike Giddey he looks like he has body where you can put muscle on him without much problems, where Giddey always looked like Justin Bieber megafan who lacks testosterone
Shooting needs to get much better. Much, much better.
Powell should be 3 and D wing.
And Wolf and Saraf are interesting. Not that high on them but whatever.

I'll be watching some Nets games, that's very interesting haul from draft to me.



I think Hornets should have made trade down, Kon, to me, is overdrafted.


Oh and Dallas won a night 2 min into a draft

Orlando was never taking Coward if we hadnt traded the pick as he would have been behind Franz. They would have taken a SG or PG. Coward has bad creation skills and below level athleticism for NBA level.

and below level athleticism for NBA level

lol what? What are your standards? Lebron James or can't play in nba? Like, Aaron Gordon has near identical vertical measured as combine as Coward. (Gordon 39 max vert, Coward 38,5, literally identical standing vertical ).

At combine he had:
-4th fastest 3/4 sprint
-5th best standing vertical
-9th highest max vertical

guy also:
went 9/10 from FT line
18/25 from spot ups
23/30 from off dribble shots
17/25 for 3 straight forward (Top of key i guess? )

And his body data is just cartoonish, basically, every single ( wingspan, standing reach, hand length ) just assumes he is 6'9 at least. And he is 6'5 .

Guy is definition of "made in lab" body when it comes to all the tools that one player can have. He can still bust out, just like any player, but his "equipment" is - full.

It just feels like you REALLY want to hate everything Memphis does to feel better about Bane trade , that also shows how you really feel about Bane trade inside.
Grizzlies targeted Cedric before trade, even he himself said that he knew they had interest in him even during season.

Time will tell. But you can't talk nonsense like he ain't athletic. It's just crazy talk. He might be new Cam Reddish, has it all but can't turn into production. Or he can be next all star. But there are few things we know he has: crazy good body for basketball and height for modern SG-SF.

I wont claim to have watched Cowards games and just looking at draft scouting on him. Draft's are crapshoots anyways, who knows how they develop. But Im not losing sleep over him right now as I dont believe Orlando would have drafted him.

Not an explosive athlete, and he can struggle to create separation or elevate in traffic against NBA-level defenders … Mostly scores within rhythm and doesn’t consistently blow by defenders or generate paint pressure on his own

Level of competition in the Big Sky Conference may also lead to questions about translation versus NBA-caliber athletes

He picks up his dribble far too often, and his handle is fairly rudimentary.

Coward has drawn criticism for his limited playmaking and low assist numbers across his college career

[Skybox]

Orlando was never taking Coward if we hadnt traded the pick as he would have been behind Franz. They would have taken a SG or PG. Coward has bad creation skills and below level athleticism for NBA level.

and below level athleticism for NBA level

lol what? What are your standards? Lebron James or can't play in nba? Like, Aaron Gordon has near identical vertical measured as combine as Coward. (Gordon 39 max vert, Coward 38,5, literally identical standing vertical ).

At combine he had:
-4th fastest 3/4 sprint
-5th best standing vertical
-9th highest max vertical

guy also:
went 9/10 from FT line
18/25 from spot ups
23/30 from off dribble shots
17/25 for 3 straight forward (Top of key i guess? )

And his body data is just cartoonish, basically, every single ( wingspan, standing reach, hand length ) just assumes he is 6'9 at least. And he is 6'5 .

Guy is definition of "made in lab" body when it comes to all the tools that one player can have. He can still bust out, just like any player, but his "equipment" is - full.

It just feels like you REALLY want to hate everything Memphis does to feel better about Bane trade , that also shows how you really feel about Bane trade inside.
Grizzlies targeted Cedric before trade, even he himself said that he knew they had interest in him even during season.

Time will tell. But you can't talk nonsense like he ain't athletic. It's just crazy talk. He might be new Cam Reddish, has it all but can't turn into production. Or he can be next all star. But there are few things we know he has: crazy good body for basketball and height for modern SG-SF.

I wont claim to have watched Cowards games and just looking at draft scouting on him. Draft's are crapshoots anyways, who knows how they develop. But Im not losing sleep over him right now as I dont believe Orlando would have drafted him.

Not an explosive athlete, and he can struggle to create separation or elevate in traffic against NBA-level defenders … Mostly scores within rhythm and doesn’t consistently blow by defenders or generate paint pressure on his own

Level of competition in the Big Sky Conference may also lead to questions about translation versus NBA-caliber athletes

He picks up his dribble far too often, and his handle is fairly rudimentary.

Coward has drawn criticism for his limited playmaking and low assist numbers across his college career

Maybe so...but his athleticism and physique is off the charts...maybe just a combine superhero...certainly just a hopeful upside swing.

[KillMonger]

"feel better about the bane trade" what? Bane fits here perfectly, F*** are you talking about?

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[jonbob17]

Sam Vecenie 2nd round mock has the Magic taking....wait for it.... Michigan center Vladislav Goldin.

[The Effect]

So what time today do you guys think we will sell off our second rounders??

Really hope we actually bundle both and maybe a player to move up to the top of the 2nd and get kalk or reynaud. But I'd give that a 0.5% of happening

[VFX]

Every year i go through something similar to the stages of grief with Magic picks
1. Disbelief
2. Pain
3. Anger
4. Depression
5. Rationalization
6. All-in acceptance


It takes about 30 minutes to complete the cycle. i was even able to do this for the Jett Howard pick, though that house was built of straw.

9th in BPM out of all college players as a freshman who didn't start until 20 games into the season. Cooper Flagg was the clear leader of this stat.

Richardson looks like a bucket, but has some fleas(height, handle, passing), obviously he was available at 25. he's 19 and he has plenty of time to work on the latter two. As with all rookies it will depend on how hard he works, and how well he is able to figure out the NBA game.

Yeah I feel mostly the same.

I think what bothers me a lot with how Weltman approaches drafts is that he isn’t making calculated strategic decisions. We see other teams making trades or moves for who they want. We know they have a specific profile they are looking for. Yeah, he made a play for Bane with #16. Memphis might have gotten the better of us by moving to take Coward.

At #25 you can’t be too mad at picking Jase relative to who was on the board while opting not to make decisions. The other side of that is that he was absolutely available at #25 for a reason. The same reasons people here are skeptical justifiably.

Anyway, I was admittedly not very high on Jase for all the obvious reasons. However, you can absolutely sell me on the idea that he will get exponentially better at what he is already good at.

Maybe he develops exceptionally as a ball handler/ passer and none of these concerns matter at all. Orlando can use his shooting. We will see if the efficiency holds up against nba defenses for his size. I like that he is at least aggressive defensively to mitigate his shortcomings.

Unless Orlando acquires more vets in the back court I have a hard time buying Jase/AB being the guys filling in as starters right this moment.

The other picks are super important now and we will see what they do.

[VFX]

So far for this draft I was bummed about Coward even though I knew it was a pipe dream of landing him at #25 unless they moved up.

I was even more pissed about Kasparas going to Miami than the idea of Clayton landing there.

Traore was kind of a sneaky pick I was hoping would fall to us but didn’t happen. I think his ball handling and creation would have helped in a back court system to set up the scorers.

I kind of knew it was going to come down to Jase and Clayton on some level. When the smoke about Clayton started earlier yesterday with Miami I thought it was absolutely going to be Jase if they didn’t move up or another team didn’t surprise us by taking him earlier like Clayton with Utah.

I’m hoping a few of these players are left on the board or Weltman can make some kind of deal for one of them by the time the pick rolls around again. I won’t hold my breath though.

Kam Jones
Proctor
Kalkbrenner
Lanier (to a lesser extent)
Fleming will absolutely be gone as Isaac insurance.

[tiderulz]

Every year i go through something similar to the stages of grief with Magic picks
1. Disbelief
2. Pain
3. Anger
4. Depression
5. Rationalization
6. All-in acceptance


It takes about 30 minutes to complete the cycle. i was even able to do this for the Jett Howard pick, though that house was built of straw.

9th in BPM out of all college players as a freshman who didn't start until 20 games into the season. Cooper Flagg was the clear leader of this stat.

Richardson looks like a bucket, but has some fleas(height, handle, passing), obviously he was available at 25. he's 19 and he has plenty of time to work on the latter two. As with all rookies it will depend on how hard he works, and how well he is able to figure out the NBA game.

i think having an NBA dad will help him with the mindset of how to prepare. J-Rich wasnt a good 3 pt shooter coming out of college, and that was back when it wasnt as much of a weapon as it is now. And Jase will need it to help get spacing. at 19, he can still develop his grown man muscles. its not a slam dunk, but potential is there. Malik Monk is 6'3 in shoes with a 6'3 wingspan as a comparison. Jase will likely be around 6'2 in shoes with 6'6 wingspan.

[tiderulz]

Every year i go through something similar to the stages of grief with Magic picks
1. Disbelief
2. Pain
3. Anger
4. Depression
5. Rationalization
6. All-in acceptance


It takes about 30 minutes to complete the cycle. i was even able to do this for the Jett Howard pick, though that house was built of straw.

9th in BPM out of all college players as a freshman who didn't start until 20 games into the season. Cooper Flagg was the clear leader of this stat.

Richardson looks like a bucket, but has some fleas(height, handle, passing), obviously he was available at 25. he's 19 and he has plenty of time to work on the latter two. As with all rookies it will depend on how hard he works, and how well he is able to figure out the NBA game.

Yeah I feel mostly the same.

I think what bothers me a lot with how Weltman approaches drafts is that he isn’t making calculated strategic decisions. We see other teams making trades or moves for who they want. We know they have a specific profile they are looking for. Yeah, he made a play for Bane with #16. Memphis might have gotten the better of us by moving to take Coward.

At #25 you can’t be too mad at picking Jase relative to who was on the board while opting not to make decisions. The other side of that is that he was absolutely available at #25 for a reason. The same reasons people here are skeptical justifiably.

Anyway, I was admittedly not very high on Jase for all the obvious reasons. However, you can absolutely sell me on the idea that he will get exponentially better at what he is already good at.

Maybe he develops exceptionally as a ball handler/ passer and none of these concerns matter at all. Orlando can use his shooting. We will see if the efficiency holds up against nba defenses for his size. I like that he is at least aggressive defensively to mitigate his shortcomings.

Unless Orlando acquires more vets in the back court I have a hard time buying Jase/AB being the guys filling in as starters right this moment.

The other picks are super important now and we will see what they do.

ive always felt that the front office comes in with their guy and 1 backup guy. But if players start dropping and the draft doesnt go to plan, they have no idea how to adjust and maybe make a move to get better value from the draft. Or take a swing on a player that didnt expect was available.

Seems like all expected Jase being available at our pick and we went with him. Similar to TDS last year.

[Idiosyncratic]

Every year it is teased that a bunch of players will be traded on draft night and it never happens now. A bunch of picks did move though.

I LOVE the Pacers move to get 38 from the Spurs. They ran Bryant and Bradley out there as backup centers in the finals, assume they may target Kalk or Broome. Would love to do the same thing as them.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Sam Vecenie 2nd round mock has the Magic taking....wait for it.... Michigan center Vladislav Goldin.

That's a lazy mock. I need them to aggressively try and trade up for Raynaud.

[Idiosyncratic]

Nets are trying to be really bad next year. We have Jett Howard who I believe can secure that #1 draft lottery seed. They have pick 36 (and Jett's dad on their staff). Let's make it happen