Welcome V.J. Edgecombe

[Iverson Armband]

One thing you don’t see in any highlight is one single off the dribble 3. And barely any from 2. That is concerning to me as it relates to his star potential.

I don’t particularly like the pick, but he’s ours now and will root like hell for him. Welcome VJ!

[Kolkmania]

Morey said two things that really stood out to me. First, he mentioned the growth VJ has shown, not just at Baylor, but also in high school and international play. Second, he said that when evaluating prospects, he looks for guys who are aware of their weaknesses and have a strong work ethic. The second one sounds easy, but ask yourself.. Do you think the other guys we were considering at #3 are self-aware and humble enough to acknowledge their weaknesses and actually work on them? Because if they are, then why does it feel like they’re still starting from such a low baseline, almost as if they’ve only been working on their strengths?

That’s why betting on VJ made sense. Yes, his handle still needs work, but if you’ve tracked his development, you’d probably arrive at the same conclusion Givony and the scouts Vecenie spoke with at EYBL did.. they think it’s promising and they can realistically see him becoming a point guard in the future.

His shooting is another great example. He already had a solid shooting profile, but he still made adjustments to it. That led to struggle early in the season but eventually lead him shooting nearly 37% from 3 and 43% from midrange in his last 16 games at Baylor.

This is a guy with a proven track record of growth. He went from an off-the-radar recruit with a basic 3&D skill set to a top-5 player in his class. Everyone raves about his work ethic from, but more importantly, he knows exactly what parts of his game he needs to work on, and he puts in the work.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in his work ethics. However, I see a lot of people mention this shooting development, but I think that's very questionable from a statistical view. Edgecombe started the season extremely rough, with sub 30% shooting from three, then he had a massive uptick in efficiency, but he ended the season just as a rough as he started.

I think his catch and shooting ability is fine, it'll translate to the NBA. But it is not like he completely overhauled his shooting and truly increased his percentages or was able to make shots off the dribble by the end of the season.

[OleSchool]

Welp VJ was my guy so happy we drafted him

Happy KJ didn't go to Bos cause well F THEM

Surprised NOP gave an unprotected 1st in next years draft.

[mjkvol]

Remarkable athlete and will be a great shooter in the NBA. Good connective playmaking and should become a tertiary ballhandler one day. He's a 6'5 Jalen Suggs with a jetpack or Derrick White with bounce without even tapping into his big time scoring/slashing upside.

This, and completely drama free, which can't be taken lightly here. This kid is a gym rat, will pair beautifully with Maxey, and really is a consistent jump shot away from being a perennial all star. He's about an 80% FT shooter, which shows that skill is there and combining that with his ability to pressure the rim, the sky's the limit. Best pick we could have made at #3.

PG and Embiid aside, we have Maxey, McCain, Edgecombe, Edwards, and Bona who all look to be the future of this franchise. If we can get a 4/5 in tonights second round, we'll be in a good spot.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Morey had more moves to make. If we can't resign Yabu, he's a S&T Candidate.

We can't S&T Grimes because he didn't start on the team with us last year. That said, Brooklyn is probably out of the running for signing him after trading for Mann and drafting 3 guards last night.

One of Grimes or McCain might be a valuable trade chip approaching the deadline. We sign Grimes and possibly Yabu and really, anyone aside from the five you named and tonight's pick are candidates to be moved at some point this year. I'd love to get into next year's 1st round somehow.

[76ciology]

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[mjkvol]

Welp VJ was my guy so happy we drafted him

Happy KJ didn't go to Bos cause well F THEM

Surprised NOP gave an unprotected 1st in next years draft.

Can't believe Kasparas fell to #20, but he couldn't have landed in a better spot and he should have a big time chip on his shoulder. I love the VJ pick, but honestly wouldn't have had any problem if we had taken KJ at #3.

[OleSchool]

Welp VJ was my guy so happy we drafted him

Happy KJ didn't go to Bos cause well F THEM

Surprised NOP gave an unprotected 1st in next years draft.

Can't believe Kasparas fell to #20, but he couldn't have landed in a better spot and he should have a big time chip on his shoulder. I love the VJ pick, but honestly wouldn't have had any problem if we had taken KJ at #3.

Yeah KJ in MIA is really good for him. Going to unlock him completely, which SUCKS

[sodmoraes]

He just looks small. I saw that video of his highlights playing for Bahamas and he looked smaller than Buddy, who´s listed as 6.4..

[VDT]

He has his flaws but he is not just a guy that jumps high. From the little i have seen he has good body control and fluidity which are traits that are good indicators for functional basketball athleticism. He also seems to be a low profile, hard working guy, which is also a plus. Being able to create his shot is going to determine whether he is going to be a star and that remains to be seen.

[Embiid-MVP]

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Not sure how anyone can hate on this kid right now after that interview. Hit the feels hard lol

Rather have a guy that wants to be here, will work on his weaknesses and incredible athlete.

People so fixated on height and all that other crap. Ballers ball. It's that simple.

[eyeatoma]

It's a little shocking how he has zero pullup game, or midrange bag. Didn't see a single pullup jumper or midrange shot in any of his highlights. Also not much of a bag to break down his man, to get into a shot, almost all of his one on one moves leads to the rim, which does mean high percentage shots, but it does not mean offensive versatility. For someone who has Oladipo/Ant/Wade potential that some claim, you'd hope to see some flashes of what I just mentioned. Think he'll be a valuable player, but I just don't know where the star upside is coming from. Why does good FT shooter, and good shooting off the pass mean that you can eventually become a 3 level scorer?

[76ciology]

It's a little shocking how he has zero pullup game, or midrange bag. Didn't see a single pullup jumper or midrange shot in any of his highlights. Also almost not much of a bag to break down his man, to get into a shot, almost all of his one on one moves leads to the rim, which does man high percentage shots, but it does not mean offensive versatility. For someone who has Oladipo/Ant/Wade potential that some claim, you'd hope to see some flashes of what I just mentioned. Think he'll be a valuable player, but I just don't know where the star upside is coming from. Why does good FT shooter, and good shooting off the pass mean that you can eventually become a 3 level scorer?

I also had the same impression early on. I think you were probably watching 2–3 minute highlights. You can try this one instead.. it includes all the makes and misses. He actually has a lot more on-ball creation skills in the halfcourt, but since his shooting percentage on those plays is low (guys like Ant or Mitchell also shot low % at this stage; both averaged just 40FG%), they usually don’t make it into the 2-3 minute highlights which only include all the makes where I find most of his makes are on c&s and transition.

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[eyeatoma]

It's a little shocking how he has zero pullup game, or midrange bag. Didn't see a single pullup jumper or midrange shot in any of his highlights. Also almost not much of a bag to break down his man, to get into a shot, almost all of his one on one moves leads to the rim, which does man high percentage shots, but it does not mean offensive versatility. For someone who has Oladipo/Ant/Wade potential that some claim, you'd hope to see some flashes of what I just mentioned. Think he'll be a valuable player, but I just don't know where the star upside is coming from. Why does good FT shooter, and good shooting off the pass mean that you can eventually become a 3 level scorer?

I also had the same impression early on. I think you were probably watching 2–3 minute highlights. You can try this one instead.. it includes all the makes and misses. He actually has a lot more on-ball creation skills in the halfcourt, but since his shooting percentage on those plays is low, they usually don’t make it into the 2-3 minute highlights which only include all the makes where I find most of his makes are on c&s and transition.

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Fraschilla posted this a clip showing Edgecombe’s highlights on PnR against top defensive teams

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The second video had 1 pullup jumper, when he was stuck in no man's land, which he did make.

The other video is 3 hours lol. I'm sure he's taken them, I just think if that was a strength of his, it would be in his highlights. Still concerning. If you see one where it shows all of his makes/misses, that are specifically from midrange, and are pullups or self created jumpers, I'd love to see that.

[76ciology]

It's a little shocking how he has zero pullup game, or midrange bag. Didn't see a single pullup jumper or midrange shot in any of his highlights. Also almost not much of a bag to break down his man, to get into a shot, almost all of his one on one moves leads to the rim, which does man high percentage shots, but it does not mean offensive versatility. For someone who has Oladipo/Ant/Wade potential that some claim, you'd hope to see some flashes of what I just mentioned. Think he'll be a valuable player, but I just don't know where the star upside is coming from. Why does good FT shooter, and good shooting off the pass mean that you can eventually become a 3 level scorer?

I also had the same impression early on. I think you were probably watching 2–3 minute highlights. You can try this one instead.. it includes all the makes and misses. He actually has a lot more on-ball creation skills in the halfcourt, but since his shooting percentage on those plays is low, they usually don’t make it into the 2-3 minute highlights which only include all the makes where I find most of his makes are on c&s and transition.

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Fraschilla posted this a clip showing Edgecombe’s highlights on PnR against top defensive teams

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The second video had 1 pullup jumper, when he was stuck in no man's land, which he did make.

The other video is 3 hours lol. I'm sure he's taken them, I just think if that was a strength of his, it would be in his highlights. Still concerning. If you see one where it shows all of his makes/misses, that are specifically from midrange, and are pullups or self created jumpers, I'd love to see that.

Both Mitchell and Ant were only shooting just 40% from the field at the same stage. Most of these guys aren’t refined early on, you’re really just looking for flashes of shot creation, passing feel, and a promising shooting profile. I read a scouting report that said SGA also struggled with on-ball jumpers early on due to his shooting mechanics. At the time, he was primarily a slasher who did most of his damage in the paint and was compared to guys like Elfrid Payton or Dejounte. While guys like Oladipo and Westbrook were thought to be just utility guards at this stage. They typically need 1–3 years of development before rounding into star form.

[eyeatoma]

I also had the same impression early on. I think you were probably watching 2–3 minute highlights. You can try this one instead.. it includes all the makes and misses. He actually has a lot more on-ball creation skills in the halfcourt, but since his shooting percentage on those plays is low, they usually don’t make it into the 2-3 minute highlights which only include all the makes where I find most of his makes are on c&s and transition.

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Fraschilla posted this a clip showing Edgecombe’s highlights on PnR against top defensive teams

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The second video had 1 pullup jumper, when he was stuck in no man's land, which he did make.

The other video is 3 hours lol. I'm sure he's taken them, I just think if that was a strength of his, it would be in his highlights. Still concerning. If you see one where it shows all of his makes/misses, that are specifically from midrange, and are pullups or self created jumpers, I'd love to see that.

Both Mitchell and Ant were only shooting just 40% from the field at the same stage. Most of these guys aren’t refined early on, you’re really just looking for flashes of shot creation, passing feel, and a promising shooting profile. I read a scouting report that said SGA also struggled with on-ball jumpers early on due to his shooting mechanics. At the time, he was primarily a slasher who did most of his damage in the paint and was compared to guys like Elfrid Payton or Dejounte. They typically need 1–3 years of development before rounding into star form.

Hmmm I guess I'll take a look at Ants, Wades and SGA college highlights. Mitchell too.

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[Iverson Armband]

The second video had 1 pullup jumper, when he was stuck in no man's land, which he did make.

The other video is 3 hours lol. I'm sure he's taken them, I just think if that was a strength of his, it would be in his highlights. Still concerning. If you see one where it shows all of his makes/misses, that are specifically from midrange, and are pullups or self created jumpers, I'd love to see that.

Both Mitchell and Ant were only shooting just 40% from the field at the same stage. Most of these guys aren’t refined early on, you’re really just looking for flashes of shot creation, passing feel, and a promising shooting profile. I read a scouting report that said SGA also struggled with on-ball jumpers early on due to his shooting mechanics. At the time, he was primarily a slasher who did most of his damage in the paint and was compared to guys like Elfrid Payton or Dejounte. They typically need 1–3 years of development before rounding into star form.

Hmmm I guess I'll take a look at Ants, Wades and SGA college highlights. Mitchell too.

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I had similar reservations and then I watched the video below. There’s still not a ton of shooting off the dribble, but he does show some flashes. I feel like I wasn’t seeing much from other clips out there. I feel a lot better about him as a prospect going forward and actually am excited now, although I still would have preferred Tre.

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[Phillybul]

Nice video. I’m going to check it out. Really curious to see his shot creation. Shooting off the dribble and how it looks. I watched Jared McCain rookie highlights and he showed an arsenal. The bump middy he has is perfection. Not sure who taught him that. Good teammate to have for VJ.

[sodmoraes]

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I like this video, very detailed in his strenghts and flaws. I actually think he kinda has a base to develop a pull up jumper and handles. Watch it starting at 9:25, he has some good moves already, so he has some potential there. I´m kinda worried for his 3 ball. Dont know if it will be consistent, i think he will probably shoot 30% or less from 3 in his first year.

But he will be a fan favorite for sure, his dunks and blocks are exciting. I think we should have drafted Ace, but VJ will be good too, i guess.

[Jailblazers7]

https://youtu.be/TrmNl3rCo68?si=4olqTt-2-ut9tnEv

Check out his highlights from Olympic qualifying. Looks pretty comfortable pulling up off the PnR in a more open setting with NBA talent. Definitely a development focus are for him but I’m confident he figures it out.

Now that he’s officially a Sixer and I can be fully enthusiastic - I think VJ ends up as the second best player in the draft.

[TYO23]

Rooting for this kid heavily.