With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

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His playstyle has some Julius Randle-ish and of course Draymond vibes, the more I watch him play.

Charles Barkley lite on offense and Draymond on defense is the ceiling.

[ItsDanger]

This pick may have been influenced by these past playoffs. But playoffs are about matchups. What works against one team won't necessarily work against another. As example, a healthy Nuggets team probably beats OKC. When you pick a player like this, you're accepting the risk that a team with size will have an advantage.

[dTox]

I think this is the first time in years I’m left shaking my head at a draft pick. I will probably never understand the logic of reaching way down for a safe pick just because of fit, and not drafting potential and talent and swinging for the fences with one of maybe 3 18 year old prospects. This team needed to swing for the fences.

Nailed it. At his best, he's going to be a great role player, which is fine for a 9th pick, but given our circumstances and lacking a true go-to player, we needed to swing for the fences. I'm also failing to see a long term fit on offence between CMB, Scottie, Jak, and Ingram, that is a spacing nightmare.

How do you know at his best he's going to be a great role player? How can we even make that assessment of a 20 year old at this point.

So bizarre.

What about him makes you think he has the makings of being more than a great role player? Is it really bizarre if vast majority of folks think he has the makings of a role player and he himself alludes to being one in most of his interviews?

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[Agimat]

His playstyle has some Julius Randle-ish and of course Draymond vibes, the more I watch him play.

Charles Barkley lite on offense and Draymond on defense is the ceiling.

[Duffman100]

Nailed it. At his best, he's going to be a great role player, which is fine for a 9th pick, but given our circumstances and lacking a true go-to player, we needed to swing for the fences. I'm also failing to see a long term fit on offence between CMB, Scottie, Jak, and Ingram, that is a spacing nightmare.

How do you know at his best he's going to be a great role player? How can we even make that assessment of a 20 year old at this point.

So bizarre.

What about him makes you think he has the makings of being more than a great role player?

He's got great touch, good handles, good passer, amazing defender. He has tools that could make him a lot better.

The reverse question, who was still on the board that was a bigger 'swing for the fences' type player?

[OakleyDokely]

Woke up this morning still pissed off at his reaction after getting drafted.wtf was that? Had a worse reaction than Alonzo Mourning finding out he was coming to the raptors smh.

CMB wasn't even on my top 10, so this stings a lot. Not happy one bit.

People are saying the reaction was based on a relief of finally getting drafted vs going to a cold city like Toronto.

We will never know

We actually know, based on what he said before the draft and after the draft.

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His playstyle has some Julius Randle-ish and of course Draymond vibes, the more I watch him play.

Charles Barkley lite on offense and Draymond on defense is the ceiling.

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If have a son, name him Colby Kitts-Murray-Boyles

[bon]

There's probably too much concern over the fit for him honestly. The guy played with some of the worst spacing imaginable and still led his conference in efficiency. This roster is already an immediate upgrade in spacing for him

[RapsFanInOhio]

His playstyle has some Julius Randle-ish and of course Draymond vibes, the more I watch him play.

Charles Barkley lite on offense and Draymond on defense is the ceiling.

Barkley is a great comp

[OakleyDokely]

There are 144 minutes at the F and C spots. Even if Ingram, Barnes and Poeltl play 100 of those, there's still plenty left over for CMB and even Mogbo and a potential FA they pick-up.

The Raps actually have more of a logjam at the guard, small wing spot. There's a lot more competition for minutes there.

[Pericles]

Hate the pick. Worst Raptors draft in many years. He plays a position that no longer exists. Passing on Maluach will haunt us. We’ve got a guy who played bully ball in NCAA, but that won’t work in NBA. This has been tried many times. Jason Maxiell, Danny Fortson, Corliss Williamson, even PJ Tucker had to go to Europe to refine his shooting before he made it work. Draymond is an exception, but he can run the break in a way that CMB cannot.

Hope I’m wrong, but I think this is worst pick since Araujo.

[God Squad]

We're here now, boys. Let's go CMB.

The Detonator.

[_MidNight_]

wasserman

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Canadian media still not getting we don't draft for need is still funny. This is the one thing this board can move forward with in future draft.

[Rapsfan07]

I think outside of guys who base their draft projections out of advanced stay models CMB is not a guy you pick in our spot. The upside to drafting a defensive stopper is not there.

The offensive upside of a below-the-rim finishing, undersized big, is the main issues. It is almost impossible to find a comparable player or role type to CMB in the NBA as a result. Plays a C type of game but is too small.

Reality for him is that he will need to adjust to the size and speed of defense in the NBA and he won't score as much. He will feed off rebounds/putbacks and really be on the floor for defense. His role is a defensive stopper.

That is perfect for a team like Houston or OKC that is loaded with talent and already has a winning/contending team. They can add specialists.

Toronto's FO acts like it is already a playoff team with a move like this. Upside guys were around like Essengue, Maluach, Bryant, and Coward and we passed. Any of those players might have become star players because they are young and don't have a lot of barriers.

Now, we are in a position where if CMB doesn't progress with his shooting and/or struggles with his finishing we have a 9 PPG 7 REB bench level PF. The defense is great but I don't know if he has a ton of value in future trades.

We basically drafted a better Mogbo and this was our last chance at a high first pick. You just hope he has all-NBA level defense.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Brinbe]

[WeTheBroth]

Don't know if anyone has posted this but reading the Kawhi scouting report below when he got drafted looks awfully similar to CMB's. I know it's a high bar to compare him to and possibly wishful thinking, but it's interesting how closely they profile against each other, right down to both being sophomores.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/NBA-Draft-Profiles-2011/Kawhi-Leonard

[ConSarnit]

There's probably too much concern over the fit for him honestly. The guy played with some of the worst spacing imaginable and still led his conference in efficiency. This roster is already an immediate upgrade in spacing for him

The counter to this is that he’s no longer going up against defenders from Radford. We were the 3rd lowest volume 3pt shooting team last year (and the 8th worst in terms of 3pt%).

Barnes/Poeltl/Mogbo/CMB is the worst 4/5 shooting roster in the league. Spacing is going to be an issue.

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Holliger made this comment. Vecenie had him as 8th on his board, Hollinger 6.

Hollinger’s analysis: This pick may surprise some people, but I had Murray-Boyles as the No. 6 prospect on my board. I think he’s the best defender in the draft, and his offensive game is coming along enough to be projectible as a quality role player at worse. The lefty needs to lose some weight to move from a college center to a pro forward and has to develop his right hand and his 3-point shot, but both his feet and feel are elite.

[God Squad]

CMB wasn't my first choice, but objectively speaking, he should be regarded as a high-ceiling player also. I think right now he should be able to guard 2-5, which will work wonders in our lineup. I wanted Noa, but CMB is frankly a better player by far. I was willing to give Noa grace for developing his jumper; CMB should be given the same.

My only issue remains the 3pt/size/position. But maybe CMB is just a baller and could fit in a multitude of positions/lineups. I'll say this, if CMB learns to be even less than average 3pt shooter, we'll be laughing to the bank.

I think CMB will be able to guard the best wings in the NBA.

[WuTang_CMB]

I live in Columbia and have had season tickets to South Carolina men's basketball games for the last two years. I've got to watch CMB ball out a lot in those two years and I can tell ya he's very good. Great inside scorer and finisher, plays good defense. The main problem is shooting which I know is a big one for yall. He's got a pretty good mid range shot but isnt the greatest three point shooter right now, I hope he can develop it and become an all around offense threat and an overall great two way player. Either way the raptors know how to develop fowards so it'll probably work out