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Knightro wrote:drsd wrote:this is what I have as a current commitment:
Jett Howard* 7,337,655
Total 220,378,633
I would be very surprised if the Magic exercised Jett's 4th year option based on what he's shown thus far in his career.
That $7.33M salary slot replaced by a 2nd round pick in either 2025 or 2026 feels very probable to me.
drsd wrote:Well: Okeke was extended a year beyond rationality. The point is that Howard has a tradable salary; which has more value than on-court play, sadly.
Knightro wrote:drsd wrote:Well: Okeke was extended a year beyond rationality. The point is that Howard has a tradable salary; which has more value than on-court play, sadly.
But that was a totally different set of circumstances. There was no financial crunch like there is going to be this time next year.
drsd wrote:Knightro wrote:drsd wrote:Well: Okeke was extended a year beyond rationality. The point is that Howard has a tradable salary; which has more value than on-court play, sadly.
But that was a totally different set of circumstances. There was no financial crunch like there is going to be this time next year.
Orlando is so far beyond the lux-tax line that the team needs tradeable contracts to make roster moves. And that is what Howard is now: a tradeable salary.
YosemiteSam wrote:Do we think we are bringing back Travelin Queen again? Or is he done for us? Not sure how 2 ways are measured in the cap....
YosemiteSam wrote:Do we think we are bringing back Travelin Queen again? Or is he done for us? Not sure how 2 ways are measured in the cap....
June 29th I believe. I would assume Caleb's gets picked up, cheap. Moe's is declined, and they rework his contract. I think for free agency, NAW is out of our price range unless we use Goga and Jett in a sign and trade, which could help and I wouldn't mind. I also like the idea of sign and trade for Bobby Portis but he likely wants more than we can afford.Magic_Johnny12 wrote:When does Orlando have to decide if they’re declining Wagner/Houstans options? Free agency is Monday, you would think these decisions would already be made…
BCS wrote:June 29th I believe. I would assume Caleb's gets picked up, cheap. Moe's is declined, and they rework his contract. I think for free agency, NAW is out of our price range unless we use Goga and Jett in a sign and trade, which could help and I wouldn't mind. I also like the idea of sign and trade for Bobby Portis but he likely wants more than we can afford.Magic_Johnny12 wrote:When does Orlando have to decide if they’re declining Wagner/Houstans options? Free agency is Monday, you would think these decisions would already be made…
Then try to find veteran cheap players, Kennard, Brogdon, CoJo, etc... to fill the rest of the roster.
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Magic_Johnny12 wrote:When does Orlando have to decide if they’re declining Wagner/Houstans options? Free agency is Monday, you would think these decisions would already be made…
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:When does Orlando have to decide if they’re declining Wagner/Houstans options? Free agency is Monday, you would think these decisions would already be made…
JoshuaPotter wrote:Odds of keeping them and just running it back as is?
AdamTheGreek wrote:YosemiteSam wrote:Do we think we are bringing back Travelin Queen again? Or is he done for us? Not sure how 2 ways are measured in the cap....
He’s still practicing at our facility, so hopefully.
drsd wrote:anothermagicfan wrote:Awesome breakdown. Thanks knightro.
I have 2 things. First can you do a breakdown of next year for what's on the books including what Paolo extension looks like?
Second we have the money spent on center depth because our starting center has been really unreliable. Last season was the most games he's ever played in a season and he was awful. Anybody know the magic record in the last 2 seasons with and without WCJ? And he's going up to 18-20 million for the 3 following season after this next season.
Side note JI could only cost 8 million a season
Assuming that Banchero will be on a 42M contract in year-1 of his new deal, this is what I have as a current commitment:
Paolo Banchero 42,000,000
Franz Wagner 41,754,636
Desmond Bane 39,446,090
Jalen Suggs 32,400,000
Wendell Carter 18,102,000
Jonathan Isaac 14,500,000
Anthony Black* 10,105,996
Goga Bitadze 7,608,696
Jett Howard* 7,337,655
Tristan da Silva* 3,991,200
Jase Richarson 3,132,360
Total 220,378,633
* = likely on team options that would be picked up.
That is only 11 players, and Black and this starts already over the 1st apron projected at 215,505,000 for 2026/27. (second apron at 228,572,000).
The Magic MUST add three players to the above, which can be done in the 8M of apron space to avoid being over the 2nd apron.
A huge amount of this will depend i) on what decision is made for M-Wagner and Houstan, and ii) future trades that are certain.
But as of today, the Magic is over the 1st apron next year.
dsg2021 wrote:AdamTheGreek wrote:YosemiteSam wrote:Do we think we are bringing back Travelin Queen again? Or is he done for us? Not sure how 2 ways are measured in the cap....
He’s still practicing at our facility, so hopefully.
Just had the craziest idea pop into my mind. The Magic have amazing facilities. Players love Orlando for retirement or off-season visits. They should open their facilities up to any NBA level players in the off-seasons. And have special signs on any doors that are "This is a Magic area only" for the various, obvious reasons. This would sneakily help them a lot to become a FA/Trade destination.
I don't believe 2-ways count on the Cap Sheet at all, and can even be 16th/17th roster spots iirc. Trevelin Queen is probably back. I love him.
YosemiteSam wrote:Do we think we are bringing back Travelin Queen again? Or is he done for us? Not sure how 2 ways are measured in the cap....
