Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread

[VFX]

Would you guys prefer Monk as the primary backup PG and vet min. guy like Taurean Prince ,Larry Nance, Precious Achiuwa backing up Paolo

OR

Isaac as the primary backup to Paolo and a vet min. guy (or a tiny more) like Brogdon/Tyus/Tre as the primary backup PG?

Now with Jase, I’d rather go option 1.

Because Jase can fill in as a pseudo point and a Tre/Tyus back court with him is just way too small and too frail defensively.

Paolo’s backup doesn’t concern me. I’m more concerned about the back court depth considering it’s always been an issue. Allocating anything other than vet min or rookie scale behind Paolo feels too much.

I don't think the Magic should be relying on Jase to play significant minutes this year. If he's ready, great, that would be awesome.

But he's only 20 and most 20 years old are not super impactful to winning basketball, even high pedigree ones.

I am still interested in another veteran guard - PG or SG.

Just to answer the question -

I CAN buy a Monk/AB back court with Jase getting spot minutes.

That to me sounds more acceptable as 6th man or fill in starter guys than the alternative of getting a vet min point guard.

[fendilim]

OK...so now we are into the second round, where values are declining quickly...CHA just gave away Mark Williams and only have Nurk at C

Would they consider Goga, #46 & #57 for #33 & #34?

or, Howard? or ORL could take back Micic if CHA doesn't have cap space or TPE...he's expiring and potentially useful crafty ballhandler, passing PG

Goga is too good and too expensive to be 3rd string C and Mose clearly doesn't have a lot of faith in him. At least one of Kalkbrenner and Raynaud will likely still be there and plenty of defensive-minded wings like Sion James, Rasheer Fleming (I have doubts), or Noah Penda...or just take a swing on a sniper like Kobe Brea or Chaz Lanier...it's just the second round, so swing away...I still like Nembhard late if we have the pick. He led the NCAA in assists, I believe and is said to just be a super-mature, high BBIQ leader who finds a way.

isnt Goga the 2nd string C? with Isaac slimming back down, his more natural role is PF again

As of the moment he is, but if Moe comes back…

Goga and JI do not fit together. Two offensively limited players.

[Rainwater]

Not trying to down Jase but he is a 20 year old rookie who was drafted late first round. I really don’t expect him to do much this year especially on a team trying to win. If he does well great but this team needs a guard that can score off the bench.

[fendilim]

Would you guys prefer Monk as the primary backup PG and vet min. guy like Taurean Prince ,Larry Nance, Precious Achiuwa backing up Paolo

OR

Isaac as the primary backup to Paolo and a vet min. guy (or a tiny more) like Brogdon/Tyus/Tre as the primary backup PG?

Isaac and Tristan are Paolo’s backup, imo. Tds is slow to play sf.

[BadMofoPimp]

I think that Jett needs to be moved at all costs even if the Magic have to attach multiple 2nds to unload his contract.

[RichCollab]

Here where we at:

Suggs/AB/Jase
Bane/ /Jett
Franz/TDS/ Caleb
Paolo/JI/ Penda
WCJ/Moe/Goga

Vet guard up next? Do we have the MLE if we don’t decline Moe?

[Redick07]

Here where we at:

Suggs/AB/Jase
Bane/ /Jett
Franz/TDS/ Caleb
Paolo/JI/ Penda
WCJ/Moe/Goga

Vet guard up next? Do we have the MLE if we don’t decline Moe?

Now our cap room is approximately 177.85m
If we don’t decline MoW and Houstan, that will be 191m. After signing Jase, total cap is 194m.
Higher than the tax line(187.9m) so we are not allowed to use MLE.

[jezzerinho]

The Penda pick would suggest we have a deal for moving JI done and it'll be announced July 1st.

Would make total sense.

[RookieStar]

The Penda pick would suggest we have a deal for moving JI done and it'll be announced July 1st.

Would make total sense.

You cant really expect a 20yr old 2nd round rookie to contribute to a team with championship aspirations right?

Penda might EVENTUALLY replace JI but not this season.

[pepe1991]

The Penda pick would suggest we have a deal for moving JI done and it'll be announced July 1st.

Would make total sense.

You cant really expect a 20yr old 2nd round rookie to contribute to a team with championship aspirations right?

Penda might EVENTUALLY replace JI but not this season.

Can we get serious for a moment about second round picks.

How many rookies played at least 40 games on teams with at least .400 win record and at least more than 10 min.
Are you ready?


2024-25: Wells, Jaylen Clark
2023-24: Vaso Micić ( 30 years old) , Sasha Vazenkov ( 28 years old) , Trayce Jackson-Davis and Andre Jackson Jr
2022-23. Nembhard, Jaylin Williams, Kolokolo and Christie
2021-22 - Ayo, Herb, Kessler Edwards, Boston, Sims
2020-21: Xavier Tillman
20219-20: - nobody
2018-19: Diallo, Bruce Brown, Svi Mykhailiuk and Rodions Kurucs


That's 19 men, among 210 selected, that's 8%. Most of them HARDLY even fitted 40 games /10 min criteria on even marginally okey team.
Two of them are over age of 28 and only "rookies" on paper.

Vast majority of successful second round picks are created on sh**y teams. Like in one year when Knicks had epic 17-65 record, they pulled out Mitchell Robinson because they had enough time to trail so many udrafted, unsigned FAs. Over span of two years they trailed: Mitchell, isaiah Hich, Noah Vonleh, Luke Kornett, Willy Hernangómez and Henry Ellenson . It's typical part of rebuild where you throw sh**t at wall in hope for Mona Lisa. (or at least Lisa Ann)

[drsd]

The Penda pick would suggest we have a deal for moving JI done and it'll be announced July 1st.

Would make total sense.

You cant really expect a 20yr old 2nd round rookie to contribute to a team with championship aspirations right?

Penda might EVENTUALLY replace JI but not this season.

And-1

Penda's "job" is to make sure the team has 14 roster slots occupied. Not to be on the court for 1-minute in 2025/26.

[drsd]

Not trying to down Jase but he is a 20 year old rookie who was drafted late first round. I really don’t expect him to do much this year especially on a team trying to win. If he does well great but this team needs a guard that can score off the bench.

I agree that the greatest need of the current roster is a legitimate, high-minutes wing to backup both Bane and F-Wagner.

But right now, the Magic has a team with a clear depth chart. A team that is at 14 men and below the first apron.


Suggs/Black/Richardson
Bane/Howard
F-Wagner/Houstan/Penda
Banchero/Isaac/da Silva
Carter/Birtadze/M-Wagner

[Skybox]

I think Penda will play…it’s not a high level skill role. He’s physically mature & supposedly has a high BBIQ…so, I could see him getting minutes just as a physical defender on a special assignment for a few minutes at a time. Hopefully he’ll show more and more, but he’s probably ready to bang & move the ball around right now. His play might dictate Isaac’s future, but I don’t know that I’d move Isaac prematurely unless it’s a very exciting move…

I’d love to know if Goga+Jett, with srps, could get us anything significant…then sign a Miles Plumlee-level vet Center for the min.

Id also consider escalating to WCJ + Jett for a starting C …I just think that, now that the dust has settled on the Bane trade…we’re still lacking and the team’s ceiling is now held down by the Center spot and having a legit ballhandler to deal with teams trying to trap and press our guards. We can’t expect much offensive growth if we’re still taking most of our shots while the clock is expiring - because we couldn’t get into our half- court sets….we haven’t seen it, but I wonder if Paolo and Franz would welcome a faster pace. I only know what I’ve seen…we know Suggs’ defense into offense tendencies and Bane played fast in MEM…we need some creativity and variety in our offense.

Penda may also be a fast-paced small-ball big…I’m certainly not betting on him day 1, but maybe there’s a vision for a Diaw/Draymond/Kyle Anderson scheme - in certain scenarios.

[jezzerinho]

The Penda pick would suggest we have a deal for moving JI done and it'll be announced July 1st.

Would make total sense.

You cant really expect a 20yr old 2nd round rookie to contribute to a team with championship aspirations right?

Penda might EVENTUALLY replace JI but not this season.

Ok, I see how you could infer that's what I meant. I really just mean JI has one foot out the door already, with his salary vs bench needs. TDS is probably going to be given bench minutes at the 4. Now add Penda as deep bench and the sensible move would seem to be to trade JI July 1st. I didn't intend to infer Penda would take on JIs role out the gate.

[BadMofoPimp]

Guerschon Yabusele or Taurean Prince could be had cheap for a backup PF if Slim is moved.

[pepe1991]

They simply have to improve bench. Right now it's G league roster: Jett, Black, Isaac, Tristan, Pende, Jase, Goga... Like, this isn't even Eurocup crew

[tiderulz]

The Penda pick would suggest we have a deal for moving JI done and it'll be announced July 1st.

Would make total sense.

You cant really expect a 20yr old 2nd round rookie to contribute to a team with championship aspirations right?

Penda might EVENTUALLY replace JI but not this season.

Can we get serious for a moment about second round picks.

How many rookies played at least 40 games on teams with at least .400 win record and at least more than 10 min.
Are you ready?


2024-25: Wells, Jaylen Clark
2023-24: Vaso Micić ( 30 years old) , Sasha Vazenkov ( 28 years old) , Trayce Jackson-Davis and Andre Jackson Jr
2022-23. Nembhard, Jaylin Williams, Kolokolo and Christie
2021-22 - Ayo, Herb, Kessler Edwards, Boston, Sims
2020-21: Xavier Tillman
20219-20: - nobody
2018-19: Diallo, Bruce Brown, Svi Mykhailiuk and Rodions Kurucs


That's 19 men, among 210 selected, that's 8%. Most of them HARDLY even fitted 40 games /10 min criteria on even marginally okey team.
Two of them are over age of 28 and only "rookies" on paper.

Vast majority of successful second round picks are created on sh**y teams. Like in one year when Knicks had epic 17-65 record, they pulled out Mitchell Robinson because they had enough time to trail so many udrafted, unsigned FAs. Over span of two years they trailed: Mitchell, isaiah Hich, Noah Vonleh, Luke Kornett, Willy Hernangómez and Henry Ellenson . It's typical part of rebuild where you throw sh**t at wall in hope for Mona Lisa. (or at least Lisa Ann)

ill say 1 - you have to take a swing with players, you never know when you find a diamond in the rough.
2 - 2nd round picks, while sometimes successful (Jokic, Green, Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Brunson) most likely dont pan out. While he was mocked in most drafts a late 1st round talent, chances are he wont become much more. We will hope that he can, but no one should expect that.

[tiderulz]

They simply have to improve bench. Right now it's G league roster: Jett, Black, Isaac, Tristan, Pende, Jase, Goga... Like, this isn't even Eurocup crew

I would debate Goga and Black as G-league players. ISaac may be g-league on offense, but NBA on defense.

the others, i wont defend

[pepe1991]

You cant really expect a 20yr old 2nd round rookie to contribute to a team with championship aspirations right?

Penda might EVENTUALLY replace JI but not this season.

Can we get serious for a moment about second round picks.

How many rookies played at least 40 games on teams with at least .400 win record and at least more than 10 min.
Are you ready?


2024-25: Wells, Jaylen Clark
2023-24: Vaso Micić ( 30 years old) , Sasha Vazenkov ( 28 years old) , Trayce Jackson-Davis and Andre Jackson Jr
2022-23. Nembhard, Jaylin Williams, Kolokolo and Christie
2021-22 - Ayo, Herb, Kessler Edwards, Boston, Sims
2020-21: Xavier Tillman
20219-20: - nobody
2018-19: Diallo, Bruce Brown, Svi Mykhailiuk and Rodions Kurucs


That's 19 men, among 210 selected, that's 8%. Most of them HARDLY even fitted 40 games /10 min criteria on even marginally okey team.
Two of them are over age of 28 and only "rookies" on paper.

Vast majority of successful second round picks are created on sh**y teams. Like in one year when Knicks had epic 17-65 record, they pulled out Mitchell Robinson because they had enough time to trail so many udrafted, unsigned FAs. Over span of two years they trailed: Mitchell, isaiah Hich, Noah Vonleh, Luke Kornett, Willy Hernangómez and Henry Ellenson . It's typical part of rebuild where you throw sh**t at wall in hope for Mona Lisa. (or at least Lisa Ann)

ill say 1 - you have to take a swing with players, you never know when you find a diamond in the rough.
2 - 2nd round picks, while sometimes successful (Jokic, Green, Brogdon, Dillon Brooks, Brunson) most likely dont pan out. While he was mocked in most drafts a late 1st round talent, chances are he wont become much more. We will hope that he can, but no one should expect that.

You should take swings, but there is no reason to pretend that second round picks are pivotal parts of nba rotations. 30% of them never even step foot on nba court.

[pepe1991]

They simply have to improve bench. Right now it's G league roster: Jett, Black, Isaac, Tristan, Pende, Jase, Goga... Like, this isn't even Eurocup crew

I would debate Goga and Black as G-league players. ISaac may be g-league on offense, but NBA on defense.

the others, i wont defend

I was thinking more as a unit. That's not good unit as nobody can score. Or handle. Most can't shoot.

Isaac, Goga, Black are nba players. Even Tristan is rotation nba player. Jett...ugh.