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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#21 » by DonaldSanders » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:03 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Steph still provides a ton of value on and off the court.

Jimmy otoh, is a different story. He's the one that should have taken a cut, there's a reason why no one outside of the suns are willing to pay him that extension.



Jimmy is definitely overpaid compared to Steph, but we also only got him because we were willing to overpay. And the only reason he was available is that he wanted to be overpaid. So overpaying him basically got us a star at a discount (though I know you realize this) -- Wiggins and a late 1st was a bargain. And on a team with a short window, not giving up the future was crucial.
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Post#22 » by SpreeS » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:14 am

Nothing bad with these 3 contracts (Curry/Butler/Green). The bad thing is that all these 3 contracts are on the same team...Also would be perfect if Curry would want to go Duncan way, but not like Kobe or Lebron, but it is what it is.
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Post#23 » by Sam Lowry Jr » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:07 am

SpreeS wrote:Nothing bad with these 3 contracts (Curry/Butler/Green). The bad thing is that all these 3 contracts are on the same team...Also would be perfect if Curry would want to go Duncan way, but not like Kobe or Lebron, but it is what it is.


Would be nice, but also remember Steph was getting paid $10-12M the first three years of the dynasty from 2014-2017.
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#24 » by SpreeS » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:49 am

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SpreeS wrote:Nothing bad with these 3 contracts (Curry/Butler/Green). The bad thing is that all these 3 contracts are on the same team...Also would be perfect if Curry would want to go Duncan way, but not like Kobe or Lebron, but it is what it is.


Would be nice, but also remember Steph was getting paid $10-12M the first three years of the dynasty from 2014-2017.


This was a reason, why we had got Iggy, Durant and other smaller pieces.
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#25 » by TB » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:26 pm

Steph is underpaid for what he brings, always has been.

Same with Dray. Same with Jimmy.

All these guys got paid because they are great. Not really much more to it than that when it comes to those three guys.
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#26 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:43 pm

He’s half the reason our franchise is worth 8 billion dollars or whatever, imagine the team trying to talk him into a discount offer? :lol:
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#27 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:33 pm

gswhoop wrote:
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gswhoop wrote:Steph is still the best player on this team but given his age and where the team needs needs to go, in order to start the next era of warriors basketball he should be in the ballpark of a tapering 25M/yr contract.

The will be stuck in mediocre purgatory until this happens.


Not sure what you mean. He's paid $59M for the upcoming season, and $62M the following. Nothing can be done about that. Are you talking about 27-28? Who knows what Steph or the Warriors will look like by then.



Yea not much we can do for the next 2 years, just ranting that we haven’t been able to flip the switch to fresh blood because of how tied up the budget has been due to Steph’s contracts.

If Steph hadn't gotten hurt, I think there is a very good chance we would have ended up (at least) in the Western Conference Finals. Would you have been frustrated that we couldn't flip the switch while we were playing in the conference finals/finals?
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#28 » by vvoland » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:45 pm

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gswhoop wrote:
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Not sure what you mean. He's paid $59M for the upcoming season, and $62M the following. Nothing can be done about that. Are you talking about 27-28? Who knows what Steph or the Warriors will look like by then.



Yea not much we can do for the next 2 years, just ranting that we haven’t been able to flip the switch to fresh blood because of how tied up the budget has been due to Steph’s contracts.

If Steph hadn't gotten hurt, I think there is a very good chance we would have ended up (at least) in the Western Conference Finals. Would you have been frustrated that we couldn't flip the switch while we were playing in the conference finals/finals?



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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#29 » by AirP. » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:54 pm

vvoland wrote:
Chris Porter's Hair wrote:
gswhoop wrote:

Yea not much we can do for the next 2 years, just ranting that we haven’t been able to flip the switch to fresh blood because of how tied up the budget has been due to Steph’s contracts.

If Steph hadn't gotten hurt, I think there is a very good chance we would have ended up (at least) in the Western Conference Finals. Would you have been frustrated that we couldn't flip the switch while we were playing in the conference finals/finals?



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It's quite possible had GS gotten through the 2nd round Butler could have had more time to recover more of his mobility back from that unfortunate undercut from the 1st round and with that, may have had enough to make have a chance in the WCF.
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#30 » by vvoland » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:02 pm

AirP. wrote:
vvoland wrote:
Chris Porter's Hair wrote:If Steph hadn't gotten hurt, I think there is a very good chance we would have ended up (at least) in the Western Conference Finals. Would you have been frustrated that we couldn't flip the switch while we were playing in the conference finals/finals?



BINGO!

It's quite possible had GS gotten through the 2nd round Butler could have had more time to recover more of his mobility back from that unfortunate undercut from the 1st round and with that, may have had enough to make have a chance in the WCF.


It's 100% matchups. OKC was lucky they didn't play a fully healthy nuggets team (with porter and gordon both banged up and/or crippled by game 7), GSW, or Bos. We play OKC really well and that was without jimmy. I would have really liked our chances, if butler had a chance to really rest up, especially if JK was out of the doghouse by then. Trying to blow up a team that has a realistic chance to make the conference finals seems insane. Especially considering, pre-steph, this team couldn't get into the playoffs, much less the WCF.
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#31 » by AirP. » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:45 pm

vvoland wrote:
AirP. wrote:
vvoland wrote:

BINGO!

It's quite possible had GS gotten through the 2nd round Butler could have had more time to recover more of his mobility back from that unfortunate undercut from the 1st round and with that, may have had enough to make have a chance in the WCF.


It's 100% matchups. OKC was lucky they didn't play a fully healthy nuggets team (with porter and gordon both banged up and/or crippled by game 7), GSW, or Bos. We play OKC really well and that was without jimmy. I would have really liked our chances, if butler had a chance to really rest up, especially if JK was out of the doghouse by then. Trying to blow up a team that has a realistic chance to make the conference finals seems insane. Especially considering, pre-steph, this team couldn't get into the playoffs, much less the WCF.

One of Butler's strengths in being low TOs would have really hurt one of OKC's strengths in getting TOs and going the other way, the issue at that point may have been Draymond being reckless with his passing.
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#32 » by vvoland » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:49 pm

AirP. wrote:
vvoland wrote:
AirP. wrote:It's quite possible had GS gotten through the 2nd round Butler could have had more time to recover more of his mobility back from that unfortunate undercut from the 1st round and with that, may have had enough to make have a chance in the WCF.


It's 100% matchups. OKC was lucky they didn't play a fully healthy nuggets team (with porter and gordon both banged up and/or crippled by game 7), GSW, or Bos. We play OKC really well and that was without jimmy. I would have really liked our chances, if butler had a chance to really rest up, especially if JK was out of the doghouse by then. Trying to blow up a team that has a realistic chance to make the conference finals seems insane. Especially considering, pre-steph, this team couldn't get into the playoffs, much less the WCF.

One of Butler's strengths in being low TOs would have really hurt one of OKC's strengths in getting TOs and going the other way, the issue at that point may have been Draymond being reckless with his passing.


I also think butler would have been very effective against OKC guards as he's bigger and stronger than anyone on that roster that isn't chet or hartenstein. In a half court game, I really liked our chances and despite my criticism of Kerr, think he would have had the edge over daggs.
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Re: Steph needs to be paid like like an aging vet 

Post#33 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:27 pm

I don't know that I would have been confident against OKC. But I think it is silly to play in a mode that says, "If I'm not very confident I'll win a title, I should be rebuilding." Things happen. Teams get hot. Players get injured. If you have a punchers chance, you should go for it, and I think we would have at least made it interesting.
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Post#34 » by vvoland » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:44 pm

Chris Porter's Hair wrote:I don't know that I would have been confident against OKC. But I think it is silly to play in a mode that says, "If I'm not very confident I'll win a title, I should be rebuilding." Things happen. Teams get hot. Players get injured. If you have a punchers chance, you should go for it, and I think we would have at least made it interesting.


I'm not saying I would have been confident, especially in the WCF, with OKC having advanced and knocked off some of the young team jitters. I would have liked our chances, that's for sure. But the salient point is the puncher's chance one. Blowing it up unless we're the title favorites is illogical. Title favorites can come crashing down and longshots can win titles. For 30 years we didn't have even a puncher's chance and now that we do, part of this board wants to return to the bottom? I just don't get it.

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