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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#21 » by League Circles » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:32 pm

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Bulls had a 12-3 record with him in the starting lineup. He averaged 14.7 ppg on 49/39/75 with 3.6 rebounds, 3.9 assists & + 6.7 +/-

A very solid extremely short stint against mostly very bad teams after 7 years of mediocrity. The guy has had one season of above average scoring efficiency. If a guy isn't a strong defender, isn't a great playmaker, and doesn't draw a lot of attention from the defense, he's got to be more efficient to justify a starting spot IMO.


He got a 65M contract for a reason. He was a good starter and went to Sac and fell off & that is a dysfunctional organization. So I don't put it fully on him. He was close to a 40% 3pt shooter on 6-7 attempts before last season. 12.9 ppg on 44/38/77 with 3.5 rebounds and 3.2 assists in 274 games (232 starts) from 2019 to 2023.

Lots of guys get paid who aren't good. See Patrick Williams.

A good starter? I'd strongly disagree with that. No chance he's a top 10-12 guy at his position, and that's what a good starter must mean.

He's a pedestrian volume, pedestrian efficiency, pedestrian defending rotation wing. That's about it IMO. No chance he gets over the MLE when his contract is up IMO.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#22 » by Jcool0 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:33 pm

League Circles wrote:
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League Circles wrote:A very solid extremely short stint against mostly very bad teams after 7 years of mediocrity. The guy has had one season of above average scoring efficiency. If a guy isn't a strong defender, isn't a great playmaker, and doesn't draw a lot of attention from the defense, he's got to be more efficient to justify a starting spot IMO.


He got a 65M contract for a reason. He was a good starter and went to Sac and fell off & that is a dysfunctional organization. So I don't put it fully on him. He was close to a 40% 3pt shooter on 6-7 attempts before last season. 12.9 ppg on 44/38/77 with 3.5 rebounds and 3.2 assists in 274 games (232 starts) from 2019 to 2023.

Lots of guys get paid who aren't good. See Patrick Williams.

A good starter? I'd strongly disagree with that. No chance he's a top 10-12 guy at his position, and that's what a good starter must mean.

He's a pedestrian volume, pedestrian efficiency, pedestrian defending rotation wing. That's about it IMO. No chance he gets over the MLE when his contract is up IMO.


Not sure why you want to die on this hill when the eye test and numbers contradict everything you say.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#23 » by League Circles » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:41 pm

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He got a 65M contract for a reason. He was a good starter and went to Sac and fell off & that is a dysfunctional organization. So I don't put it fully on him. He was close to a 40% 3pt shooter on 6-7 attempts before last season. 12.9 ppg on 44/38/77 with 3.5 rebounds and 3.2 assists in 274 games (232 starts) from 2019 to 2023.

Lots of guys get paid who aren't good. See Patrick Williams.

A good starter? I'd strongly disagree with that. No chance he's a top 10-12 guy at his position, and that's what a good starter must mean.

He's a pedestrian volume, pedestrian efficiency, pedestrian defending rotation wing. That's about it IMO. No chance he gets over the MLE when his contract is up IMO.


Not sure why you want to die on this hill when the eye test and numbers contradict everything you say.

There are numbers that suggest he's a top 10-12 SG in the nba? He was 12th on our team in scoring frequency lol. 17th in scoring efficiency.

He's fine. He's a legit nba rotation player. He's not the answer to any important question for any team in the nba.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#24 » by sco » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:47 pm

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League Circles wrote:Lots of guys get paid who aren't good. See Patrick Williams.

A good starter? I'd strongly disagree with that. No chance he's a top 10-12 guy at his position, and that's what a good starter must mean.

He's a pedestrian volume, pedestrian efficiency, pedestrian defending rotation wing. That's about it IMO. No chance he gets over the MLE when his contract is up IMO.


Not sure why you want to die on this hill when the eye test and numbers contradict everything you say.

There are numbers that suggest he's a top 10-12 SG in the nba? He was 12th on our team in scoring frequency lol. 17th in scoring efficiency.

He's fine. He's a legit nba rotation player. He's not the answer to any important question for any team in the nba.

I like him and would like him back after this season if we're paying him $10M-ish. That said, there will be stupid $ floating around next season, so it's not a foregone conclusion we can keep him at a reasonable price. As such, if he can trade him for a young/promising player under contract or, better yet, a future 1st (unlikely), sign me up.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#25 » by Jcool0 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:39 am

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League Circles wrote:Lots of guys get paid who aren't good. See Patrick Williams.

A good starter? I'd strongly disagree with that. No chance he's a top 10-12 guy at his position, and that's what a good starter must mean.

He's a pedestrian volume, pedestrian efficiency, pedestrian defending rotation wing. That's about it IMO. No chance he gets over the MLE when his contract is up IMO.


Not sure why you want to die on this hill when the eye test and numbers contradict everything you say.

There are numbers that suggest he's a top 10-12 SG in the nba? He was 12th on our team in scoring frequency lol. 17th in scoring efficiency.

He's fine. He's a legit nba rotation player. He's not the answer to any important question for any team in the nba.


He a legit NBA starter. No one is signing him to be the face of a franchise. He is a valuable 3rd/4th option on any good team. FYI Kon just went 4th and was going in top 10 so the NBA clearly values that archetype.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#26 » by League Circles » Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:51 am

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Not sure why you want to die on this hill when the eye test and numbers contradict everything you say.

There are numbers that suggest he's a top 10-12 SG in the nba? He was 12th on our team in scoring frequency lol. 17th in scoring efficiency.

He's fine. He's a legit nba rotation player. He's not the answer to any important question for any team in the nba.


He a legit NBA starter. No one is signing him to be the face of a franchise. He is a valuable 3rd/4th option on any good team. FYI Kon just went 4th and was going in top 10 so the NBA clearly values that archetype.

If a guy is a 3rd or 4th option and isn't a plus defender, which Huerter isn't, then by definition he's not a good starter.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#27 » by HomoSapien » Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:27 am

Jcool0 wrote:
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Not sure why you want to die on this hill when the eye test and numbers contradict everything you say.

There are numbers that suggest he's a top 10-12 SG in the nba? He was 12th on our team in scoring frequency lol. 17th in scoring efficiency.

He's fine. He's a legit nba rotation player. He's not the answer to any important question for any team in the nba.


He a legit NBA starter. No one is signing him to be the face of a franchise. He is a valuable 3rd/4th option on any good team. FYI Kon just went 4th and was going in top 10 so the NBA clearly values that archetype.


Huerter isn't a 3rd option. I think the way to look at him is Duncan Robinson. He can serve a really valuable role on a good team and has shown over the years that he can be impactful.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#28 » by meekrab » Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:41 am

His contract is expiring so hopefully he has trade value at the deadline. As a player he's not in the Bulls' future.
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Re: Opinions on Huerter 

Post#29 » by sco » Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:50 pm

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League Circles wrote:There are numbers that suggest he's a top 10-12 SG in the nba? He was 12th on our team in scoring frequency lol. 17th in scoring efficiency.

He's fine. He's a legit nba rotation player. He's not the answer to any important question for any team in the nba.


He a legit NBA starter. No one is signing him to be the face of a franchise. He is a valuable 3rd/4th option on any good team. FYI Kon just went 4th and was going in top 10 so the NBA clearly values that archetype.


Huerter isn't a 3rd option. I think the way to look at him is Duncan Robinson. He can serve a really valuable role on a good team and has shown over the years that he can be impactful.

I think you're right. He's not a complete enough player to average only low-to-mid-teens. IMO he's more complete than Robinson (but not as good of a shooter). He can be your 3rd highest scorer, but he's probably your 5th best starter on a good team, but still a starter-level guy. Among SG's, I see him as around the 20th-25th best starter.
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