NBA Trade Thread #12

[NecessaryEvil]

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[patryk7754]

I've now seen a few separate social media posts that Bam is available (kinda hilarious because each post was claiming that a different team was the favorite to land him). idk how real those posts are, but if there is a chance to read for him, we should look into it.

[ghostinthepost1]

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I mean surely they have to make some more moves right? They can't just draft a guy at 12 and then call it an off season. With 8 players on expiring contracts making 100+ million, it'd be insane to just go into the season like that and let them all expire.

[jnrjr79]

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I mean surely they have to make some more moves right? They can't just draft a guy at 12 and then call it an off season. With 8 players on expiring contracts making 100+ million, it'd be insane to just go into the season like that and let them all expire.

I assume they are going to try to make more moves (and they absolutely should), but just want to note that not moving those guys this offseason does not necessarily mean they all expire, because you can still make in-season trades.

[NecessaryEvil]

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[patryk7754]

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He’ll be a good addition after a buyout. For 20ish mil, he’s still good enough to have a positive impact.

I think there are four very doable moves to making us a playoff team

1. Sign and trade Vuc for Kuminga

2. Package white and Williams with another player(s) plus picks for an all star level player

3. Sign Beal after a buyout

4. Sign capela (or another FA center)

I think three out of the four a very possible and maybe even likely. I think the least likely to happen is doing a big trade involving white and Williams and multiple picks.


Giddey/Lonzo
Beal/Huerter
Matas/Kuminga
Trade/Noa
Capela/Collins

I can see that being a top 6 seed in the east. And if we don’t trade for a PF, I think just signing Beal, flipping Vuc for Kuminga, and signing capela makes us a top 8 seed

[sco]

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He’ll be a good addition after a buyout. For 20ish mil, he’s still good enough to have a positive impact.

I think there are four very doable moves to making us a playoff team

1. Sign and trade Vuc for Kuminga

2. Package white and Williams with another player(s) plus picks for an all star level player

3. Sign Beal after a buyout

4. Sign capela (or another FA center)

I think three out of the four a very possible and maybe even likely. I think the least likely to happen is doing a big trade involving white and Williams and multiple picks.


Giddey/Lonzo
Beal/Huerter
Matas/Kuminga
Trade/Noa
Capela/Collins

I can see that being a top 6 seed in the east. And if we don’t trade for a PF, I think just signing Beal, flipping Vuc for Kuminga, and signing capela makes us a top 8 seed

I'm with you, but I read the post that the Bulls would trade for him (for additional assets like picks) and then the Bulls would be buying him out.

[Am2626]

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He’ll be a good addition after a buyout. For 20ish mil, he’s still good enough to have a positive impact.

I think there are four very doable moves to making us a playoff team

1. Sign and trade Vuc for Kuminga

2. Package white and Williams with another player(s) plus picks for an all star level player

3. Sign Beal after a buyout

4. Sign capela (or another FA center)

I think three out of the four a very possible and maybe even likely. I think the least likely to happen is doing a big trade involving white and Williams and multiple picks.


Giddey/Lonzo
Beal/Huerter
Matas/Kuminga
Trade/Noa
Capela/Collins

I can see that being a top 6 seed in the east. And if we don’t trade for a PF, I think just signing Beal, flipping Vuc for Kuminga, and signing capela makes us a top 8 seed

Who is this All Star Level player? It’s not realistic that the Bulls or any team would make that many moves in one FA period. But if they did who is this guy?

[patryk7754]

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He’ll be a good addition after a buyout. For 20ish mil, he’s still good enough to have a positive impact.

I think there are four very doable moves to making us a playoff team

1. Sign and trade Vuc for Kuminga

2. Package white and Williams with another player(s) plus picks for an all star level player

3. Sign Beal after a buyout

4. Sign capela (or another FA center)

I think three out of the four a very possible and maybe even likely. I think the least likely to happen is doing a big trade involving white and Williams and multiple picks.


Giddey/Lonzo
Beal/Huerter
Matas/Kuminga
Trade/Noa
Capela/Collins

I can see that being a top 6 seed in the east. And if we don’t trade for a PF, I think just signing Beal, flipping Vuc for Kuminga, and signing capela makes us a top 8 seed

I'm with you, but I read the post that the Bulls would trade for him (for additional assets like picks) and then the Bulls would be buying him out.

Now that you mention it, yea. The seems to be the way to interpret that. Which would still be a good move I think

[patryk7754]

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He’ll be a good addition after a buyout. For 20ish mil, he’s still good enough to have a positive impact.

I think there are four very doable moves to making us a playoff team

1. Sign and trade Vuc for Kuminga

2. Package white and Williams with another player(s) plus picks for an all star level player

3. Sign Beal after a buyout

4. Sign capela (or another FA center)

I think three out of the four a very possible and maybe even likely. I think the least likely to happen is doing a big trade involving white and Williams and multiple picks.


Giddey/Lonzo
Beal/Huerter
Matas/Kuminga
Trade/Noa
Capela/Collins

I can see that being a top 6 seed in the east. And if we don’t trade for a PF, I think just signing Beal, flipping Vuc for Kuminga, and signing capela makes us a top 8 seed

Who is this All Star Level player? It’s not realistic that the Bulls or any team would make that many moves in one FA period. But if they did who is this guy?

Not really sure if that guy exists, which is the main reason I think it’s unlikely that happens. Obviously if you can get giannis, you do it, but that’s not happening.

Someone like Porzingis would have been ideal. Not necessarily all star level but potentially to have a major impact.

[Hangtime84]

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When other organizations believe you are incompetent or newbie they won’t make certain deals.

[jnrjr79]

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He’ll be a good addition after a buyout. For 20ish mil, he’s still good enough to have a positive impact.

I think there are four very doable moves to making us a playoff team

1. Sign and trade Vuc for Kuminga

2. Package white and Williams with another player(s) plus picks for an all star level player

3. Sign Beal after a buyout

4. Sign capela (or another FA center)

I think three out of the four a very possible and maybe even likely. I think the least likely to happen is doing a big trade involving white and Williams and multiple picks.


Giddey/Lonzo
Beal/Huerter
Matas/Kuminga
Trade/Noa
Capela/Collins

I can see that being a top 6 seed in the east. And if we don’t trade for a PF, I think just signing Beal, flipping Vuc for Kuminga, and signing capela makes us a top 8 seed

One presumes Beal, who wouldn't agree to a trade to the Bulls last year, would sign somewhere other than Chicago if he's bought out.

He also won't get $20M from anyone, presumably. You'd sign him to a 2-year deal for cheap to just let the buyout pay the lion's share of his salary.

[RedBull23]

If he could sign somewhere else for the mid level exception, we need to be all over this thing. Adding Maluach to Buzelis and Essengue (plus one or maybe two 1st rounders next year) would be massive for the rebuild.

[Dan Z]

I would be open to this. Not sure what Phoenix is thinking. They sort of jumped the gun with the Mark Williams trade... although given his injuries there's room for both.

Maluach isnt starter next season in NBA, so he can grow and mature behind Williams. There will be plenty of minutes for both on Suns.

Williams is only 23. If injuries weren't part of his equation, I think they would definitely view one as expendable and I assume they weren't expecting Malauch to be there at 10.

I think the Suns did a good job of adding depth to their team, but they still need a PF. Maybe they should offer something like Grayson Allen plus something for PJ Washington?

Or in round 2 today offer some of those 2nd round picks that they got for Durant to draft Fleming?

Beal, Booker, Brooks, Williams/Maluach and whoever ever PF. They'll still need a point guard, but that's a start.

[ChettheJet]

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Let's start with Cowley is fortunate to work at a bankrupt newspaper, the Sun=Times needs to cover the Bulls so he's their desperation writer. And Bill Simmons probably devotes 5 to10 minutes a year to Chicago sports

OK if you want to suggest a scenario where the Bulls trade for Beal, get 2, 3, 4 picks and move Vuc, Terry, Carter if even that's enough then buy him out all you people calling the Bulls so CHEAP can really swallow hard. I can't see a plan where the team that had so much trouble moving a much better player and teammate in Zach Lavine could possibly be keeping Beal. You'd almost have to add another team to the mix.

[Dan Z]

I'm late to see this, but the Bulls traded down in the 2nd round and got cash for doing so. Sigh.

When is this team ever going to be run like a serious franchise?

Now I see reports that they're interested in Beal. Why? What could Phoenix give the Bulls to take on his contract???

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/greed-chicago-bulls-under-fire-for-trading-draft-pick-for-cash/ar-AA1HuaRU

[Dan Z]

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Let's start with Cowley is fortunate to work at a bankrupt newspaper, the Sun=Times needs to cover the Bulls so he's their desperation writer. And Bill Simmons probably devotes 5 to10 minutes a year to Chicago sports

OK if you want to suggest a scenario where the Bulls trade for Beal, get 2, 3, 4 picks and move Vuc, Terry, Carter if even that's enough then buy him out all you people calling the Bulls so CHEAP can really swallow hard. I can't see a plan where the team that had so much trouble moving a much better player and teammate in Zach Lavine could possibly be keeping Beal. You'd almost have to add another team to the mix.

Those picks won't be worth it because all they can offer is 2nd round picks. They got 5 in the KD trade, but that wouldn't be enough for me to trade for Beal.

[jnrjr79]

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Let's start with Cowley is fortunate to work at a bankrupt newspaper, the Sun=Times needs to cover the Bulls so he's their desperation writer. And Bill Simmons probably devotes 5 to10 minutes a year to Chicago sports

OK if you want to suggest a scenario where the Bulls trade for Beal, get 2, 3, 4 picks and move Vuc, Terry, Carter if even that's enough then buy him out all you people calling the Bulls so CHEAP can really swallow hard. I can't see a plan where the team that had so much trouble moving a much better player and teammate in Zach Lavine could possibly be keeping Beal. You'd almost have to add another team to the mix.

Whether the Bulls trade for & sign out Beal has nothing to do with whether the team is cheap, presuming they nevertheless keep payroll under the tax. They'll spend basically the same amount of money every year regardless of roster construction.

[jnrjr79]

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Let's start with Cowley is fortunate to work at a bankrupt newspaper, the Sun=Times needs to cover the Bulls so he's their desperation writer. And Bill Simmons probably devotes 5 to10 minutes a year to Chicago sports

OK if you want to suggest a scenario where the Bulls trade for Beal, get 2, 3, 4 picks and move Vuc, Terry, Carter if even that's enough then buy him out all you people calling the Bulls so CHEAP can really swallow hard. I can't see a plan where the team that had so much trouble moving a much better player and teammate in Zach Lavine could possibly be keeping Beal. You'd almost have to add another team to the mix.

Those picks won't be worth it because all they can offer is 2nd round picks. They got 5 in the KD trade, but that wouldn't be enough for me to trade for Beal.

That's not true anymore, right? Since they did that 3-for-1 trade of their only available first last year for 3 (crappier protected) firsts?

[Dan Z]

Let's start with Cowley is fortunate to work at a bankrupt newspaper, the Sun=Times needs to cover the Bulls so he's their desperation writer. And Bill Simmons probably devotes 5 to10 minutes a year to Chicago sports

OK if you want to suggest a scenario where the Bulls trade for Beal, get 2, 3, 4 picks and move Vuc, Terry, Carter if even that's enough then buy him out all you people calling the Bulls so CHEAP can really swallow hard. I can't see a plan where the team that had so much trouble moving a much better player and teammate in Zach Lavine could possibly be keeping Beal. You'd almost have to add another team to the mix.

Those picks won't be worth it because all they can offer is 2nd round picks. They got 5 in the KD trade, but that wouldn't be enough for me to trade for Beal.

That's not true anymore, right? Since they did that 3-for-1 trade of their only available first last year for 3 (crappier protected) firsts?

They traded the 2029 pick for Mark Williams. I think that means they don't have any other first round picks they can trade, but I could be wrong about that.