2025 Blazer Draft Prospects

[Walton1one]

lol, ok

[Walton1one]

Yes, 1 out of 6 because only 6 have ever been even remotely talented enough to be even given a chance, and 5 of those flat out stunk

You know the guy played in California summer league last year right? And he was very underwhelming.

8-5-1 in 21min and averaged 4.7 TO

.7blk .438 eFG, oh yeah he is the next Jokic all right….

Wasnt on the best team in summer league, your just mad because your 3 months of spewing draft "knowledge" that you copy and pasted from other people was for not and your not the expert you claim to be. Move on... its done.

Amen...

If it’s not a benefit to you, then don’t read it, or just go back to that other forum you repost things from this forum on all the time, CJ

[m0ng0]

Wasnt on the best team in summer league, your just mad because your 3 months of spewing draft "knowledge" that you copy and pasted from other people was for not and your not the expert you claim to be. Move on... its done.

Amen...

If it’s not a benefit to you, then don’t read it, or just go back to that other form you post on all the time

Dude your in every thread spewing the same nonsense over and over and over again. Cronin sucks, management sucks, owners suck, half the team sucks... rinse and repeat for almost a year now. Maybe it might be time to take a step back or find a new team that makes you happy?

[Walton1one]

I could care less what you think, you literally offer nothing of value. if you don’t like what I’m saying then maybe just don’t respond or put me on ignore either way have a nice life

[Chanse503]

Man- sure would’ve been perfect to have Bostons 2nd rounder tonight…
There’s a crop of studs sitting there or maybe we could’ve swung a deal with Charlotte >;0k

Noah Penda; Adou Thiero; Ryan Nembhard !!!

[Walton1one]

What do you think the odds are that POR acquires a 2nd round pick tonight? 5%?

would love to see it happen, but Cronin just seems to love his players like no other GM, he’s going to have to let go of one to fit in Yang, but I just don’t know if he’s willing to let go of another player for a 2nd rounder, he should, most good teams take advantage of 2nd round picks, but he seems not to care

[mojomarc]

Sorry--one more thought. Can we get off this "Cronin will be fired if Yang doesn't pan out" kick? I mean jeez--11th picks traded for future first and a couple of seconds isn't a bad deal in a top heavy draft, and getting the 16th pick and having it flame out isn't a firing offense in the NBA. The only way Cronin would get fired over just the draft is if he had the first overall and didn't pick Flagg and Flagg turned out to be the next Scottie Pippen and whomever Portland drafted was LaRue Martin 2.0. But mid-first fails are literally a dime a dozen.

[Walton1one]

I don’t know about that, it is a pretty big reach in terms of the NBA draft, like outright ridicule level

and he is also on his 4th year of guiding a team to under ,500 win% with vets primarily leading the way & still no clear direction, most GM’s in competent organizations would have been fired, but he was extended

[Dame Lizard]

Cronin will be judged more on this year's draft if Noa, Coward or Bryant become stars, than if Yang pans out or not.

There wasn't anybody left on the board at #16 who I particularly loved (I did and still do really like Fleming as having potential elite role player upside). I'd love to trade in to the draft for him.

But the fact is Cronin/Schmitz believed more in Yang than Noa/Coward/Bryant, which is what people will judge him on.

[BlazersBroncos]

I mean on one hand you can call it a reach but on the other you have to give it to Joe for having balls if absolute steel and just going for his guy.

[tester551]

Wasnt on the best team in summer league, your just mad because your 3 months of spewing draft "knowledge" that you copy and pasted from other people was for not and your not the expert you claim to be. Move on... its done.

Amen...

If it’s not a benefit to you, then don’t read it, or just go back to that other forum you repost things from this forum on all the time, CJ

Whatcha talking about?

I provide links to my data sources, but I rarely repost anything.

[zzaj]

Honest general question here...note--I'm not interested in bringing up unnecessary political arguments or commentary, I'm not interested in that, nor do I think this is the forum for that:

I mentioned it before, but what are the chances that Yang isn't even allowed to come and live and work in the USA under current political conditions in the USA? I've heard that work visas have been HIGHLY scrutinized recently, with an uptick in refusal generally.

Will the NBA be able to fast-track and guarantee that process? What happens if things were to escalate to the point that the USA were to be actively at odds with China in the Iran conflict?

Anybody here have specialized insight or knowledge about these things?

[mojomarc]

Honest general question here...note--I'm not interested in bringing up unnecessary political arguments or commentary, I'm not interested in that, nor do I think this is the forum for that:

I mentioned it before, but what are the chances that Yang isn't even allowed to come and live and work in the USA under current political conditions in the USA? I've heard that work visas have been HIGHLY scrutinized recently, with an uptick in refusal generally.

Will the NBA be able to fast-track and guarantee that process? What happens if things were to escalate to the point that the USA were to be actively at odds with China in the Iran conflict?

Anybody here have specialized insight or knowledge about these things?

No special knowledge, but I would find it hard to believe that they wouldn't grant an O-1 visa. Those are for those of extraordinary talent and international acclaim, and it would be hard to argue getting drafted into the NBA isn't a great example of that. There are law firms like Fragomen that specialize in this, and they're very, very good at getting things done.

[mojomarc]

I don’t know about that, it is a pretty big reach in terms of the NBA draft, like outright ridicule level

and he is also on his 4th year of guiding a team to under ,500 win% with vets primarily leading the way & still no clear direction, most GM’s in competent organizations would have been fired, but he was extended

There will be a lot of picks, even several higher than 16, that will be complete busts. I don't think NBA GMs are graded by "reaches". And seriously--would it have been worse for him if he traded down to 21, let's say, got the same future first and two seconds, and took a used puck bag? A GM would still spin that as acquiring assets given there is no obvious playing time for the kind of talent you typically grab in the 11-20 slots.

[Wizenheimer]

Also, now that Portland guaranteed has another pick in 2028, does that take the shadow of the Bulls pick away? Or do they need a FRP in 2026 or 2027 first?

pretty sure Chicago gets the Portland pick, regardless of the order

[Wizenheimer]

Sorry--one more thought. Can we get off this "Cronin will be fired if Yang doesn't pan out" kick? I mean jeez--11th picks traded for future first and a couple of seconds isn't a bad deal in a top heavy draft, and getting the 16th pick and having it flame out isn't a firing offense in the NBA. The only way Cronin would get fired over just the draft is if he had the first overall and didn't pick Flagg and Flagg turned out to be the next Scottie Pippen and whomever Portland drafted was LaRue Martin 2.0. But mid-first fails are literally a dime a dozen.

he wouldn't get fired for trading down from 11-->16

there is probably a better than even chance he'll get dismissed by the new owner. That's very common

[DusterBuster]

Also, now that Portland guaranteed has another pick in 2028, does that take the shadow of the Bulls pick away? Or do they need a FRP in 2026 or 2027 first?

pretty sure Chicago gets the Portland pick, regardless of the order

My understanding was they only get that pick if Portland makes the playoffs and their own pick is outside of the lottery. If that doesn't happen by 2028, it becomes a 2nd round pick.

Portland's 1st round pick to Chicago protected for selections 1-14 in 2026, 1-14 in 2027 and 1-14 in 2028; if Portland has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Chicago by 2028, then Portland will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to Chicago [Chicago-Portland, 8/28/2021]

The issue as I understood if was the Steipen rule of no back to back years without a FRP. Portland made their pick in 2025 and they now have multiple extra FRPs in 2028, meaning they'll still make a selection that year and wouldn't be at risk of back to back years of no pick if they moved their own 2026 FRP or their 2027 FRP...

Basically what I'm getting at is that this CHI owed pick doesn't seem to be that cumbersome anymore for the Blazers trading multiple FRPs as far as I can see unless I'm missing something. For instance, they could trade their own 2026 FRP, a 2027 FRP Swap, and in that scenario, even the two non-POR owned FRPs the Blazers control (Orlando and Milwaukee)... something along those lines? I'm still a little confused on which pick is going to WAS from the Deni trade.

But yeah, again, it feels like the Blazers picks are far less locked down than they have been in years prior because of what they have to work with.

[m0ng0]

Honest general question here...note--I'm not interested in bringing up unnecessary political arguments or commentary, I'm not interested in that, nor do I think this is the forum for that:

I mentioned it before, but what are the chances that Yang isn't even allowed to come and live and work in the USA under current political conditions in the USA? I've heard that work visas have been HIGHLY scrutinized recently, with an uptick in refusal generally.

Will the NBA be able to fast-track and guarantee that process? What happens if things were to escalate to the point that the USA were to be actively at odds with China in the Iran conflict?

Anybody here have specialized insight or knowledge about these things?

That thought crossed my mind also, hopefully somebody in the know can answer that.

[Wizenheimer]

Also, now that Portland guaranteed has another pick in 2028, does that take the shadow of the Bulls pick away? Or do they need a FRP in 2026 or 2027 first?

pretty sure Chicago gets the Portland pick, regardless of the order

My understanding was they only get that pick if Portland makes the playoffs and their own pick is outside of the lottery. If that doesn't happen by 2028, it becomes a 2nd round pick.

Portland's 1st round pick to Chicago protected for selections 1-14 in 2026, 1-14 in 2027 and 1-14 in 2028; if Portland has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Chicago by 2028, then Portland will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to Chicago [Chicago-Portland, 8/28/2021]

The issue as I understood if was the Steipen rule of no back to back years without a FRP. Portland made their pick in 2025 and they now have multiple extra FRPs in 2028, meaning they'll still make a selection that year and wouldn't be at risk of back to back years of no pick if they moved their own 2026 FRP or their 2027 FRP...

Basically what I'm getting at is that this CHI owed pick doesn't seem to be that cumbersome anymore for the Blazers trading multiple FRPs as far as I can see unless I'm missing something. For instance, they could trade their own 2026 FRP, a 2027 FRP Swap, and in that scenario, even the two non-POR owned FRPs the Blazers control (Orlando and Milwaukee)... something along those lines? I'm still a little confused on which pick is going to WAS from the Deni trade.

But yeah, again, it feels like the Blazers picks are far less locked down than they have been in years prior because of what they have to work with.

sure, that's the obligation. If the Blazers are not in the lottery in any of the next 3 years, the pick goes to Chicago.

now there may be one circumstance where Portland has some wiggle room. Say the Blazers are in the lottery in 2026 and 2027....very possible in the West. Then in 2028, say the Blazers have the 20th and Milwaukee has the 3rd pick. If Orlando has the 18th pick, the Bulls might allow the Blazers to substitute the Orlando pick for Portland's pick, leaving the Blazers to complete the swap with Milwaukee

that may be why Cronin asked for the 2028 pick

[kdawg32086]

Not looking likely that we buy a 2nd round pick, given what the roster looks like but still watching the 2nd round anyways.

Fleming was a nice pick for Phoenix. They are having a good draft so far.