2025 Draft Night Picks Discussion

[starbosa10]

Really happy so far, just need to move Grayson/royce/richards to get under 2nd apron and find some PG help

[BobbieL]

This years draft is the first in many years no one has had to pull out the “do something stick” meme…..lol.

At least we have a fun summer league to look forward to again

Hopefully Proctor slips to 41
That would be pretty dang good
That would be a dream scenario at this point

With Ishbia building around Booker - I wanted a vision
GReen, Brooks Williams, Maulauch, Fleming
I like it --very good job!

Young athletic players with length. Brooks is still only 29 - he's not young but he has a role that you need on a team.

[BobbieL]

Really happy so far, just need to move Grayson/royce/richards to get under 2nd apron and find some PG help

Pretty much -- you nailed it. All three of those. They total like like $32m - so hopefully they bring back like $10-15m

And probably just keep Beal around - he can score off the bench

[bwgood77]

I wonder how long Noah Penda will last. He is an interesting prospect out of France. Led their team in blocks and steals and was 2nd in rebounds. SF, versatile defender. A little like Shawn Marion. He will probably be gone by 41 though.

[Dr Manute]

SG: Green - 23 yrs old
SF: Dunn - 22 yrs old
PF: Flemming - 20 yrs old
C: Maluach - 18 yrs old

[Sunsdeuce]

Players that need to go now: Allen, Oso, Beal (or Green), Nick Richard’s, and Coby Martin.

I’m ok keeping O’Neal.

[BobbieL]

SG: Green - 23 yrs old
SF: Dunn - 22 yrs old
PF: Flemming - 20 yrs old
C: Maluach - 18 yrs old

Williams is only 23, maybe 24

[RaisingArizona]

Really happy so far, just need to move Grayson/royce/richards to get under 2nd apron and find some PG help

Somebody so I never have to see TyTy on this team again lol

[BurningHeart]

Nice to acquire talent. Now we need offensive minded players somehow.

You have all these energy active dump pass close range dunk types. Now you need more spacing and shooting so we can actually run and gun.

Too much on the athleticism part but smart players win games.

[BobbieL]

Players that need to go now: Allen, Oso, Beal (or Green), Nick Richard’s, and Coby Martin.

I’m ok keeping O’Neal.

I am not against trading Green but I think I want to see somebody that athletic on the court.. The rest, including O'Neale, agree. But I want to see Green play

[bwgood77]

The bolded parts concern me a little....as I feel a lot of Ayton's problems stemmed from not processing the game fast enough....would freeze...

1. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Utah)
Rasheer Fleming, F, Saint Joseph's

Strengths: Fleming is a toolsy forward with impressive highlights who improved leaps and bounds over the past three years, developing into a highly efficient inside-out scorer to complement his massive 7-foot-5 wingspan, which gives him potential to grow into on defense.

Weaknesses: His feel for the game is a major question, as he does not process the game quickly on either end of the floor. He sometimes struggles to make basic passes and is highly prone to mistakes off the ball defensively.

The verdict: There's a premium on length, shooting and potential defensive versatility in the NBA, and Fleming could bring all three to a team with the patience to develop his awareness and technique defensively while the game hopefully slows down for him offensively. He struggled badly late in the season, but his relative youth and trajectory at St. Joseph's leaves room for optimism about his potential. -- Givony

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45583425/2025-nba-round-2-mock-draft-best-available-players-picks-predictions

Still certainly worth a shot at 31 though, but there are others that could be good too. I wonder who we are targeting at 41.

[Sunsdeuce]

If Gambo can spend about 10 minutes less gushing and raving about himself on the radio, that would be great.

[NapoleonII]

Players that need to go now: Allen, Oso, Beal (or Green), Nick Richard’s, and Coby Martin.

I’m ok keeping O’Neal.

I'm on board, except I'd switch Allen for O'Neal.

Allen is lights out a great shooter, I'm not down with trading our best shooter who can also defend.

[BurningHeart]

The bolded parts concern me a little....as I feel a lot of Ayton's problems stemmed from not processing the game fast enough....would freeze...

1. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Utah)
Rasheer Fleming, F, Saint Joseph's

Strengths: Fleming is a toolsy forward with impressive highlights who improved leaps and bounds over the past three years, developing into a highly efficient inside-out scorer to complement his massive 7-foot-5 wingspan, which gives him potential to grow into on defense.

Weaknesses: His feel for the game is a major question, as he does not process the game quickly on either end of the floor. He sometimes struggles to make basic passes and is highly prone to mistakes off the ball defensively.

The verdict: There's a premium on length, shooting and potential defensive versatility in the NBA, and Fleming could bring all three to a team with the patience to develop his awareness and technique defensively while the game hopefully slows down for him offensively. He struggled badly late in the season, but his relative youth and trajectory at St. Joseph's leaves room for optimism about his potential. -- Givony

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45583425/2025-nba-round-2-mock-draft-best-available-players-picks-predictions

Still certainly worth a shot at 31 though, but there are others that could be good too. I wonder who we are targeting at 41.

Eeeek. Do not like that. But nobody's perfect to start. But you'd like those instincts being present.

[Qwigglez]

I'm very impressed with the maneuvering the Suns front office has done this draft. The first draft in a long time I feel like Suns made moves with a vision in mind. Fleming could easily contribute right away.

[lilfishi22]

Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

Suns Owe Beal: $110m

Chicago Owes:
Vuc: 21.5 or Zach Collins at 18m
PWill: $18m per year for fours $72m
and
three players as candidates to get the math to work:
Ball - 10m - doubt they trade him
Jevon Carter: 6.8

most likely: Jalen Smith (friend of the family): 18.4 for two seasons

So that would 72 + 21 + 18 = 110m
but the Bulls can buyout Beal

Bulls fan want Mualach but the Suns already talked about him - I doubt he would be traded

I'm honestly not a fan of this. Patrick Williams is a career loser IMO and is doing the bare minimum while on a pretty hefty contract. The Bulls are looking to get out of it, and I think Suns shouldn't be the suckers taking him. He's bulked up to play more PF, but he isn't tall enough IMO. He has majorly regressed since his rookie season. Personally, I think I'd prefer to just keep Beal because in 2026-27 season he'll be expiring and I think would be a good bargaining chip potentially.

I dislike PWill but if we're determined to not have Beal on the roster/books going into next season, taking him not much worse than a Beal buyout and definitely better than a buyout + waive&stretch scenario. At the very least, PWill brings some size, some floor stretching abilities and defensive versatility. At $18m flat, he'll make up just under 9% of the cap going into his last year of his contract in 2028-2029. There's also some potential he could be moved again, even as a salary filler because he's not super expensive somewhere down the line. With a Beal buyout + waive&stretch scenario, that's a hard $20m or whatever in dead salary for the foreseeable future.

PWill is not ideal and I've been very against trading for him even if it meant offloading Beal. But with recent talks about us looking to get him off the team one way or another, PWill is not the worst option.

[NapoleonII]

The bolded parts concern me a little....as I feel a lot of Ayton's problems stemmed from not processing the game fast enough....would freeze...

1. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Utah)
Rasheer Fleming, F, Saint Joseph's

Strengths: Fleming is a toolsy forward with impressive highlights who improved leaps and bounds over the past three years, developing into a highly efficient inside-out scorer to complement his massive 7-foot-5 wingspan, which gives him potential to grow into on defense.

Weaknesses: His feel for the game is a major question, as he does not process the game quickly on either end of the floor. He sometimes struggles to make basic passes and is highly prone to mistakes off the ball defensively.

The verdict: There's a premium on length, shooting and potential defensive versatility in the NBA, and Fleming could bring all three to a team with the patience to develop his awareness and technique defensively while the game hopefully slows down for him offensively. He struggled badly late in the season, but his relative youth and trajectory at St. Joseph's leaves room for optimism about his potential. -- Givony

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45583425/2025-nba-round-2-mock-draft-best-available-players-picks-predictions

Still certainly worth a shot at 31 though, but there are others that could be good too. I wonder who we are targeting at 41.

Eeeek. Do not like that. But nobody's perfect to start. But you'd like those instincts being present.

Yeah, but Ayton was drafted offensively to be a 1st/2nd/3rd option, a hub for a team's offense. Hence the turnovers, the slow processing, the lack of IQ in the moment.

Fleming, even if he completely panned out, would be a 3rd/4th/5th option. Dude just needs to rebound and defend, which he can do, and improve, and he'd be doing 80% of what we need from him.

[RaisingArizona]

The bolded parts concern me a little....as I feel a lot of Ayton's problems stemmed from not processing the game fast enough....would freeze...

1. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Utah)
Rasheer Fleming, F, Saint Joseph's

Strengths: Fleming is a toolsy forward with impressive highlights who improved leaps and bounds over the past three years, developing into a highly efficient inside-out scorer to complement his massive 7-foot-5 wingspan, which gives him potential to grow into on defense.

Weaknesses: His feel for the game is a major question, as he does not process the game quickly on either end of the floor. He sometimes struggles to make basic passes and is highly prone to mistakes off the ball defensively.

The verdict: There's a premium on length, shooting and potential defensive versatility in the NBA, and Fleming could bring all three to a team with the patience to develop his awareness and technique defensively while the game hopefully slows down for him offensively. He struggled badly late in the season, but his relative youth and trajectory at St. Joseph's leaves room for optimism about his potential. -- Givony

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45583425/2025-nba-round-2-mock-draft-best-available-players-picks-predictions

Still certainly worth a shot at 31 though, but there are others that could be good too. I wonder who we are targeting at 41.

Gambo said the Duke and Tennessee guys.

[KdoubleDees23]

Minnesota going to get Fleming

[BurningHeart]

The bolded parts concern me a little....as I feel a lot of Ayton's problems stemmed from not processing the game fast enough....would freeze...



https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45583425/2025-nba-round-2-mock-draft-best-available-players-picks-predictions

Still certainly worth a shot at 31 though, but there are others that could be good too. I wonder who we are targeting at 41.

Eeeek. Do not like that. But nobody's perfect to start. But you'd like those instincts being present.

Yeah, but Ayton was drafted offensively to be a 1st/2nd/3rd option, a hub for a team's offense. Hence the turnovers, the slow processing, the lack of IQ in the moment.

Fleming, even if he completely panned out, would be a 3rd/4th/5th option. Dude just needs to rebound and defend, which he can do, and improve, and he'd be doing 80% of what we need from him.

Very true. Just hate dumb players who lack instincts and make mistakes that may cost games. Not saying thahs this guy----I don't know **** about any of these prospects---just in general.