With the 39th pick, the Raptors select Alijah Martin!

[grant101]

Defense is overrated in today's NBA. This was a draft and tanking disaster.

Not sure how you could conclude this after the playoffs we just watched

[S.W.A.N]

Some immediately playable depth at the 2, which wasn’t exactly a need, unless they have some moves coming. Maybe he can play nominal PG in lineups where Scottie is doing the creation.

Thought they’d go with a ready made C to fill out the depth chart, curious to see how the roster ends up shaking out.

I like Martin. Feels like they are hoping for Norm Powell but with defence, which is not a bad ceiling, even if the scoring development is a question mark.

I don't see him as a 2.

Combo guard. Which we actually had a need for. Someone who can defend the 1-2 and the point of attack and be a secondary ball handler to get it to our primary offensive players.

As was said before shades of Davion or Smart.

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[S.W.A.N]

Defense is overrated in today's NBA. This was a draft and tanking disaster.

Not sure how you could conclude this after the playoffs we just watched

He's obviously trolling

[WuTang_OG]

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[MEDIC]

I remember watching the final four & thinking "man, I would.love it if the Raptors picked this guy up somehow".

He has presence. It's impossible not to notice him out there.

[WuTang_OG]

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[Mark_83]

Alex "Hawk" Toohey just taken by Warriors.

[dhackett1565]

Some immediately playable depth at the 2, which wasn’t exactly a need, unless they have some moves coming. Maybe he can play nominal PG in lineups where Scottie is doing the creation.

Thought they’d go with a ready made C to fill out the depth chart, curious to see how the roster ends up shaking out.

I like Martin. Feels like they are hoping for Norm Powell but with defence, which is not a bad ceiling, even if the scoring development is a question mark.

I don't see him as a 2.

Combo guard. Which we actually had a need for. Someone who can defend the 1-2 and the point of attack and be a secondary ball handler to get it to our primary offensive players.

As was said before shades of Davion or Smart.

He doesn’t seem to have a lot of self creation or playmaking in his bag. Defend opposing PGs, sure, hence my nominal PG suggestion, but I doubt he really initiates any plays.

[Westside Gunn]

We should bring back Kevin O'Niell in the Raptors coaching staff. Raptors will revive those 55 point game with the defensive lineups in this new NBA

[tms]

Even Big Orange is impressed by his poise under pressure lol

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[manjusaka]

Wondering if Martin can handle the ball and make the right read at the pg spot. If he does he would become the ideal pg for us.

[TGM]

[quote="alpngso"]6'2" 210? guy's built like a brick[/quote]

This guy built like Eric Bledsoe

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[S.W.A.N]

Some immediately playable depth at the 2, which wasn’t exactly a need, unless they have some moves coming. Maybe he can play nominal PG in lineups where Scottie is doing the creation.

Thought they’d go with a ready made C to fill out the depth chart, curious to see how the roster ends up shaking out.

I like Martin. Feels like they are hoping for Norm Powell but with defence, which is not a bad ceiling, even if the scoring development is a question mark.

I don't see him as a 2.

Combo guard. Which we actually had a need for. Someone who can defend the 1-2 and the point of attack and be a secondary ball handler to get it to our primary offensive players.

As was said before shades of Davion or Smart.

He doesn’t seem to have a lot of self creation or playmaking in his bag. Defend opposing PGs, sure, hence my nominal PG suggestion, but I doubt he really initiates any plays.

I don't think you need any creation or playmaking in our system. The odd pick and roll but for the most part the ball is going through other players. More important is that he defends and can hit the three

[Johnston]

vecenie holl

39. Toronto Raptors

Alijah Martin | 6-2 guard | 23 years old | Florida

Vecenie’s rank: 37

If I were working on the NBA team side, Martin is one of those guys who I would just want in my organization. He’s the epitome of a winner. He’s tough and strong. He asserts his athleticism on the game and on his opponents in a serious way. Defensively, he’s tough and a terrific on-ball defender. He fights and scraps for loose balls and has a fairly sizable shooting track record at this point. Even if he’s not elite as a shooter, he has at least proven that he’s confident taking them. His presence this year gave Florida the attitude and aggressiveness that it needed to win a national title. Still, the size absolutely puts a ceiling on what Martin can do at the NBA level. And even though I buy into him being helpful, it’s probably not more than on a two-way contract at the end of the day. Still, Martin might be the first player that I would call if I had an open two-way this year. I would draft him to secure his services on a two-way. If he had any semblance of NBA-level ball skills, I would absolutely have him higher than this. But without them, it’s just a bit too hard of a sell at any higher level than that.

Hollinger’s analysis: Martin can defend and he can jump, and he can make an open shot. However, his limited handle at 6-2 makes it difficult to find an NBA position for him, and he’ll have to go to a situation where he can play off the ball next to bigger wings who can handle. Toronto would seem to offer that with the presence of big wings like Brandon Ingram and R.J. Barrett who can play on the ball, so he may be able to carve out a role here.

I burst out laughing at the bolded. Vecenie had this guy 37 (2 spots higher than where we picked him) and thinks he has no semblance of NBA-level ball skills. Meanwhile people were hoping to use this pick to fill our C gap????

Ya idk what ppl are thinking tbh. Tough enough finding serviceable veteran 7fters lol

[ConSarnit]

Some immediately playable depth at the 2, which wasn’t exactly a need, unless they have some moves coming. Maybe he can play nominal PG in lineups where Scottie is doing the creation.

Thought they’d go with a ready made C to fill out the depth chart, curious to see how the roster ends up shaking out.

I like Martin. Feels like they are hoping for Norm Powell but with defence, which is not a bad ceiling, even if the scoring development is a question mark.

I don't see him as a 2.

Combo guard. Which we actually had a need for. Someone who can defend the 1-2 and the point of attack and be a secondary ball handler to get it to our primary offensive players.

As was said before shades of Davion or Smart.

By all accounts he is not a playmaker at all. 1.6 assists per game for his college career. 10% ast%, which is very low for a guard. Scouts and stats seem to imply he’s not going to give you much offensive creation.

[raptorstime]

Houston --> Jamal
Florida --> Alijah
I see you 2nd round strategy lol

Got some dawgs on this team finally. Defense is going to be fun to watch this year.

[ForeverTFC]

Some immediately playable depth at the 2, which wasn’t exactly a need, unless they have some moves coming. Maybe he can play nominal PG in lineups where Scottie is doing the creation.

Thought they’d go with a ready made C to fill out the depth chart, curious to see how the roster ends up shaking out.

I like Martin. Feels like they are hoping for Norm Powell but with defence, which is not a bad ceiling, even if the scoring development is a question mark.

I don't see him as a 2.

Combo guard. Which we actually had a need for. Someone who can defend the 1-2 and the point of attack and be a secondary ball handler to get it to our primary offensive players.

As was said before shades of Davion or Smart.

By all accounts he is not a playmaker at all. 1.6 assists per game for his college career. 10% ast%, which is very low for a guard. Scouts and stats seem to imply he’s not going to give you much offensive creation.

Hollinger laid out the case well. If he's going to carve out in the NBA, he needs to be surrounded by playmaking wings that are going to initiate the offense to allow him to exist off-ball. We'll be able to give him that.

[WuTang_OG]

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