2025 NBA Draft Thread (pt 3)

[jfs1000d]

If Williams and Shulga both get two ways, which is still tbd, there's only one two way left for Norris, Peterson, or someone else.

Assume it is Petersen if they trade Hauser.


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[NYCelticsfan136]

Disappointing. I am hoping they’re careful with Tatum coming back.

[brackdan70]

Is it safe to say Brad - so far - is not as good drafting as he is trading for talent?

I mean Gonzalez was his highest pick ever so hard to say he is bad at drafting.
Walsh and Schierman have actually outplayed their draft positions .
Late seconds are a crapshoot.
It’s still to early to pass judgement on any of his picks really.

[ConstableGeneva]

Finances have been more of a factor in the moves so far than some fans thought it would be just a few months ago. I think JT injury is a big factor in that shift if that wasn't the original approach already.

[Gant]

That one otherwise meaningless Washington Wizards win at the end of the season meant the Celtics did not get Fleming.

(That is, if they'd won the tiebreaking coin toss that would have taken place.)

[NYCelticsfan136]

Disappointing. I am hoping they’re careful with Tatum coming back.

[NYCelticsfan136]

Finances have been more of a factor in the moves so far than some fans thought it would be just a few months ago. I think JT injury is a big factor in that shift if that wasn't the original approach already.

Frankly i am hoping for a throwaway year next season. Idk if they will do that.

[RickyDizzle]

That one otherwise meaningless Washington Wizards win at the end of the season meant the Celtics did not get Fleming.

(That is, if they'd won the tiebreaking coin toss that would have taken place.)

I mean, if they really liked him, he was there for the taking at 28.

[NYCelticsfan136]

A little surprise that RJ Luis went undrafted.

[darylbe]

Disappointing. I am hoping they’re careful with Tatum coming back.

Zero pieces of value for trades, a bunch of **** 2nd rounders, no decent 1sts, and a trio of 29, 30, and 32 year Olds, (the star returning after a major surgery. Expecting him to be the same old self is a joke)

Just jumping back into second apron with FA?

Lol

[Fencer reregistered]

I really like Shulga on paper, shows everything you want to see from a 3&d guy.

Would like to see Michael Ruzic & Ryan Nembhard in training camp. Rico was teammates with Nembhard at Creighton, can reach out for us.

Except for the D part?

Another Hauser-like project, basically. Maybe he'll dunk some time during his second contract as well!

[threrf23]

Except for the D part?

Throughout his college career, he came up with steals without fouling much, last season posted 2.2 steals (per 40) vs 2.4 fouls, elite-ish A/TO guy as well.

Not sure about his length & versatility.

[Gant]

Bobby Krivitsky

I asked Mike Zarren about Celtics' 2nd-rd picks, Amari Williams & Max Shulga.

On Williams: "He's one of the best passing big men in college for a long time... When you meet him, you'll see he just has an enormous, enormous wingspan. And when you see him on the court, he just has incredible vision."


On Max Shulga: "Elite toughness."

He also praised his winning pedigree and shared that when Shulga was in Boston for a pre-draft workout, he got dinner with former Utah State teammate Neemias Queta.

[Fencer reregistered]

Since Brad became POBO, the Celtics have been the most successful franchise in the league. Period. In four seasons he's had a championship, a Finals loss, a 7th game loss in the conference finals, and a 2nd-round flameout. No other team has matched that.

One can argue that he SHOULD have done extremely well, given the assets he started with and his win-now prioritization. (Trading away picks, using up luxury tax years. etc.) But the fact remains that his actual results were stellar, and any criticisms should acknowledge that context.

[SuperDeluxe]

Since Brad became POBO, the Celtics have been the most successful franchise in the league. Period. In four seasons he's had a championship, a Finals loss, a 7th game loss in the conference finals, and a 2nd-round flameout. No other team has matched that.

One can argue that he SHOULD have done extremely well, given the assets he started with and his win-now prioritization. (Trading away picks, using up luxury tax years. etc.) But the fact remains that his actual results were stellar, and any criticisms should acknowledge that context.

We're so incredibly spoiled, but for some people it's never enough.

[Hal14]

If Williams and Shulga both get two ways, which is still tbd, there's only one two way left for Norris, Peterson, or someone else.

Norris signed a 2-year 2-way contract so as of now, it's looking like our 3 2-way spots are filled:

Norris
Shulga
Williams

Peterson is a FA..so he's probably either gone..or he gets a standard roster spot - probably only happens if Walsh is waived/traded..

[redslastlaugh]

My worst outcome for this draft was stay at 28 and 32 and take shooting specialists. And we averted the worst case scenario.

When Brad took Hugo Gonzalez and said in the post-presser twice that Hugo's cutting was the element of his game that Brad liked most, it felt like an acknowledgement that the over reliance on space-out, stand-still 3pt attempts and lack of creativity and movement in our offense has become a limiting factor. Player movement (off ball cuts) and lower-variance offense in general seemed an obvious but important deficiency that we needed to address.

And when we took Amari Williams, a janky center, physical, a screener, a good passer, it was another interesting choice leaning away from the Mazzulla Ball identity of only wanting players who space the floor. I never thought we'd consider taking Amari leading up to the draft because he is never gonna be a 3pt shooter in the NBA, ever.

And Max Shulga, a lot of draft twitter, really liked him. And that's the 57th pick, so literally it's whatever. There was no clearly better prospect and he might actually be good.

But fundamentally, we want to compete for a title in 2-3 years and we don't have a single proven player on our roster under 25 years old that can help us get there. So the number ONE thing I thought we needed to accomplish in this draft is take two swings on players, lock them up on 4 yr rookie contracts and hope one pans out as a starter level player (Lu Dort type) and one pans out as an impact reserve (Aaron Wiggins type) to help get the next JT/JB iteration of the Celtics back to the Finals.

And while it's nice that we made interesting picks that didn't put the entire emphasis on shooting, I don't know that we actually ended up achieving the goal of drafting players who can be impactful on their rookie contracts. I've spent quite a bit of time looking at players in this draft, and while Im not writing anyone off, I had a list of players who I thought were the best bets to make and Hugo Gonzalez, Amari Williams, and Max Shulga -- All 3 of them were not on the list.

So, not a bad night, interesting picks... and we will just see, I guess

[Fencer reregistered]

If Williams and Shulga both get two ways, which is still tbd, there's only one two way left for Norris, Peterson, or someone else.

Norris signed a 2-year 2-way contract so as of now, it's looking like our 3 2-way spots are filled:

Norris
Shulga
Williams

Peterson is a FA..so he's probably either gone..or he gets a standard roster spot - probably only happens if Walsh is waived/traded..

Does Norris's contract have any kind of guarantee?

[Bill Lumbergh]

Is it safe to say Brad - so far - is not as good drafting as he is trading for talent?

It might be the safest thing you've ever said.

[Green89]

Any further info on the Aaron Scott signing?