bigshawn wrote:VFX wrote:If the argument is that Penda is an all-defense dual F in time, then I can buy that..
But that means the da Silva pick was a waste at #18 considering he's older and on a rookie deal which is important.
He's not going to displace any of the larger contract players and he's duplicative of the rookie scale deal we just drafted positionally.
I don't understand the Da Silva comment. So you're saying because you drafted someone last year and he is so-so at best, you shouldn't draft someone who could be potential be better and cheaper?
I like the both picks and Penda looks like a certified dawg. I also like the new Weltman. Using that way of thinking, we wouldn't have traded for Bane because we signed KCP and he would have to publicly acknowledge it was a mistake. He pivoted and moved on from KCP and traded for Bane which was better for us.
Sometimes things don't work out, so you have to make a new plan and pivot away from mistakes.
This is a lengthier discussion on how teams maximize assets based on their overall needs and cap space.
I’m fine with Penda in a vacuum if Weltman is super high on him enough to trade multiple seconds to move up and take him. They’ve scouted him and other teams liked him too. He seems like a glue guy that fits the teams identity and Mosely will love him.I have to preface this because people here aren’t capable of holding two different positions when talking about a decision. Now that being said…
Yeah, I don’t like last years draft in retrospect. In theory da Silva and Penda can share a floor. However, that’s also banking on two things simultaneously.
The first being that every other backup forward on this team is expendable. They just spent 2/3 picks in the last two drafts on backups for Paolo and Franz who play 90% of games. Yeah, it’s good to have depth. Ideally it’s better to have that depth in places you know you are thin at minutes-wise.
Second, that any other possible option in both drafts weren’t a bigger priority. There are 3 guards on this roster. None of them are point guards. There are 3 Centers on this roster. 1 is currently injured and 1 is due to miss 20-25 games this season. None are “starting quality”. Thats a position worth taking a shot on considering how much money is tied up into it currently.
It’s not remotely the same level of thinking as Bane and KCP. Those guys are known quantities on enormous contracts. We have data on them and they aren’t rookie scale deals. That “mistake” needed a first just to move off to make regardless. Or they could have drafted Bane with the 30th instead of an undersized guard in 2020.
These draft decisions with late picks are about finding role players to round out the roster. It seems like nothing but it really isn’t considering the CBA, roster spots, and cap realities. Also, this team is very injury prone.