2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

[Heat_Down_Under]

Vlad Dracula
Ghost
Warewolf

I dig it..

The Monstars

Love it!

[MettaWorldPanda]

A National Championship between both my teams (UM vs FAU) would have been something. It didn't pan out, unfortunately. It was still fun, though.

I’m a UM guy but my wife graduated from FAU. That was such a memorable tournament. Goldin was a monster during that run. Was yamming on anyone that stood in his way. Legit can be birdman 2.0

That would be great. Miami was my dream school, but it was too expensive for me. I decided to go to FAU because I had a scholarship and I was able to go for free. The U will always be my team first. I grew up rooting for them. FAU is my 2nd team.

FAU is a great school. Go Owls!!

[MettaWorldPanda]

Vlad Dracula
Ghost
Warewolf

I dig it..

The Monstars

Love it!

We really have some dunk city vibes going on. Don’t sleep on Showtime either.

[dshearn]

Vlad Dracula
Ghost
Warewolf

I dig it..

Hmmmm


Ghorst

Vlad
Ghorst

Warewolf....

[Lilseb93]

I really like what I'm seeing from Steve Settle. He doesn't look like somebody who should be undrafted. There is something there. Get him in Miami Heat shape and in the weight room, and we may have found another gem (again).

[dshearn]

I really like what I'm seeing from Steve Settle. He doesn't look like somebody who should be undrafted. There is something there. Get him in Miami Heat shape and in the weight room, and we may have found another gem (again).

Well....

it is cool to see they are looking at size.

please let this be the end of small ball....


would rock if they find th next undrafted stud and the dude is 7 foot tall... let alone a 6-11 wing lol....

[3ballbomber]

Read on Twitter

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If this is true it’s a major red flag.

The goal shouldn’t be ‘to be the guy’. The focus shld be ‘what can i do to help my team win’.

similar to rook Beasley asked what he’s goal was in the NBA, he said to win MVP. Mvp’s are an individual accolade. We just had the worst season prior, instead of saying i want to help this team improve, win & compete for chips he’d rather focus on himself. We all know he fell off quick & nvr recovered.

Hard pass on Kuminga, unless for peanuts. Im sure FO will make the right decision.

[3ballbomber]

Herro

Reaves

Monk


Reaves is better than Monk.

You would prefer Herro at $50M a year to Reaves at $22.5M? I agree Monk overall is a tier below them, Herro and Reaves are basically a wash

Dude, Herro is better than Austin. He's also 2 years younger.

Without Tyler Herro on the floor we had the absolute worst offense out of any team last season. He was our entire engine. Reaves has had the luxury to play alongside LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and now Luka Doncic - all of which are light years better offensively than Bam Adebayo and regular season Jimmy Butler. Reaves has been the 3rd option behind 2 legit superstar players his entire career. Tyler has never had that luxury.

Herro makes 30m a season right now, and will for the next 2 seasons. He's not making 50m a year at this point. When it comes time to actually pay Tyler 50m/year he'll be as old as current day Austin Reaves and the salary cap at that point would have also risen significantly as well. 50m will be the new 37m. Herro should continue to improve as well and in 2 seasons he will be an even better player.



Also, Reaves isn't getting paid 22.5m / year. There's a reason he declined the 4 year 90/m contract extension with the Lakers. He's looking to get paid just as much as Tyler.

Don’t bother, he wakes up screaming Herro’s nm every morn lol

[3ballbomber]

Yes, absolutely! In Miami, in place of Herro, his usage skyrockets, defensive game plans are geared specifically towards him, and he has no one to take the pressure off. This is exactly why things like per36 are so useless because they don't take other circumstances into account. He's no longer the third guy, he's THE ONLY GUY! Night in, night out! That takes a toll on a player.

The Bam disrespect is getting WILD.

We all saw how well Bam did alleviating pressure from Herro. I love Bam, but he's a third option.

You cld say Bam’s fro be lookin’ nappy & he’d take it to heart

#fanboylifebetough

[Daffy]

Read on Twitter

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If this is true it’s a major red flag.

The goal shouldn’t be ‘to be the guy’. The focus shld be ‘what can i do to help my team win’.

similar to rook Beasley asked what he’s goal was in the NBA, he said to win MVP. Mvp’s are an individual accolade. We just had the worst season prior, instead of saying i want to help this team improve, win & compete for chips he’d rather focus on himself. We all know he fell off quick & nvr recovered.

Hard pass on Kuminga, unless for peanuts. Im sure FO will make the right decision.

I completely agree with you but I'm intrigued of the idea that maybe we can unlock him and use him as a piece in a bigger trade for a better player down the road. I mean he's still only 22. Has some scoring upside. Maybe we can polish his shooting and get him to hustle on defense and the boards and another team might have interest. We possibly can get back more than we'd give up to acquire him.

[3ballbomber]

Heat are 1-8 in their last 9 playoff games. Nobody cares who led the team in stats those games.

As an aside, the only victory was thanks to Herro’s heroic performance on the road in Boston.

Everyone's reading experience on this board would be improved if we just didnt take the bait. Same crap over and over again

Same sh*t, diff hour, daily…repeat.

[HeatingUp3]

That summer league roater is fire!
I like Goldin and Kira Lewis alot.
Can't see the speal of Kiminga, i don't belive in him i must say. We need a go to guy, a star at least.

[3ballbomber]

There isn't some huge Herro fanbase on this board, he gets crapped on regularly, people just want consistency. If you think its OK to crap on Tyler cause he'll never make it and fawn over guys like Reaves instead, then you should have no problem when others do it for guys like Julius Randle in reference to Bam. On the flipside, if you want to defend Bam's honor and be insulted when people desperately praise the Randles/Collins of the world to denigrate Bam, you ought to have the same takes for Herro vs the Reaves/Lavines. Otherwise it just looks like you're a player fan picking favorites, not a Heat fan.

I agree the jury's still out on Herro long term, nor do I disagree that the gap between Tyler and Reaves is massive, but there's definitely a gap, and if we're giving up on Tyler I'd much rather it be a pure upgrade than for a guy whose older, and whose CEILING is Tyler Herro. That's just sad.

EDIT: I'd also consider Tyler for picks/spare parts depending what direction we go in. But thinking we're going to replace him with Austin Reaves and it be an upgrade is delusional.

Also miss me with this "Herro is a playoff choker" narrative like this is ESPN or something. He was better than expected rookie season, worse in the 21-22 campaign (though I think most would agree he was a different player at that time and more of a chucker). Then he is injured for the Nuggets Finals run though he was playing well at the end of that season, then he's thrust into the #1 option on a mediocre squad the next year when Jimmy goes down, and similar circumstances this year with Jimmy traded, both times without anyone capable as a #2 (you said it yourself earlier Bam's best role on a team is 3rd option). I'm not going to sit here and champion Tyler as a guy whose proven himself, but I'm not about to completely write him off from those circumstances. Bam's last two postseasons were putrid as well, and you won't see me writing him off for that (nor will you for that matter).

Shld just stop @bolded. You already hit it on the head. He’s a Bam fan disguising himself as a Heat fan. We all already know this.

[3ballbomber]

Read on Twitter

?s=61

If this is true it’s a major red flag.

The goal shouldn’t be ‘to be the guy’. The focus shld be ‘what can i do to help my team win’.

similar to rook Beasley asked what he’s goal was in the NBA, he said to win MVP. Mvp’s are an individual accolade. We just had the worst season prior, instead of saying i want to help this team improve, win & compete for chips he’d rather focus on himself. We all know he fell off quick & nvr recovered.

Hard pass on Kuminga, unless for peanuts. Im sure FO will make the right decision.

I completely agree with you but I'm intrigued of the idea that maybe we can unlock him and use him as a piece in a bigger trade for a better player down the road. I mean he's still only 22. Has some scoring upside. Maybe we can polish his shooting and get him to hustle on defense and the boards and another team might have interest. We possibly can get back more than we'd give up to acquire him.

If we can get him w/out giving up much im willing to take the risk. There’s no better place to develop than here. This also means any negative character traits will also be revealed & exposed.

[VaDe255]

I’m not sure why there’s still debate about Herro. It’s highly likely they just max him as soon as they’re allowed to. They lack high end talent, and players like Herro, who both produce and fit alongside your other max guy aren’t easy to find. We just saw Bane go for three firsts; you don’t just let that kind of value walk and you're not getting it on the market cheap either

This is a soft reset, which a lot of fans wanted. Kasparas Jakucionis falling to them at #20 pushes the timeline back a bit, he’ll likely need 2–3 years to fully develop. Bam is still young enough to grow alongside Herro, Davion, Ware, KJ, Niko and maybe JJJ. That’s a young core with more upside than many realize.

They’ve actually built a team with potential through the draft, which is wild given the Heat’s traditional win now image. Now it’s about cleaning up the roster. If they can move off Wiggins and Terry, that would help. Wiggins’ impact on winning has always been inconsistent, he needs a specific situation to succeed and Terry has really fallen off a cliff

If Kasparas pans out and is a guy you can build around, there would be a discussion to have about what to do with Tyler, but that is probably more like 4-5 years down the line when the next extension is due and you have to make difficult choices about who you are keeping

[dolphinatik]

With LA grabbing Theiro I wonder if Heat will get him if we Trade Wiggins... that would be ideal.

[Kobewade11]

Settle looks somewhat intriguing. Good shooter, long, can run and jump. Super light tho

[DayofMourning]

Davion/Kasparas/Dru
Herro/Knecht/Larsson
Kuminga/Jaquez/Keshad
Bam/Jovic/Rui
Ware/Giannis/Goldin

Masterclass.

[3ballbomber]

When you look at the type of players we had w/ each Championship or Finals/deep runs there’s one common denominator we had that exemplified Heat basketball/culture. Tough minded players.

Wade, Shaq, Mourning, Haslem, Riley coaching, Butler. These are some of the toughest sob’s you can get as competitive basketball players/coach. I didnt mention big-3 because that was simply a stacked squad that was supposed to dominate.

Butler was a goddamn warrior & as damn gritty as you can get He went to war, wanted smoke & didn’t give a f*ck who he fought. Just a tough competitor. He was a significant factor for our recent runs.

This is the problem we have currently once Butler bounced. Who is left to carry that fire? We have one of the softest players mentally given the team captain badge. The fish rots from the head down. Can you feel confident going to war w/ Bam as your captain, who after a loss is happy to hug, smile & schmooze w/ the very players that just beat him. Spo, as much as he talks about grit, being forged in fire etc ain’t Riles. Riley was tough as fawk, disciplined his players. He’d scold Bam for his post gm cuddles. Spo not so much. A great coach w/ the X’s & O’s but lacks the tough trait that spreads to his players. Haslem is no longer on the bench also.

You notice also all the players i mentioned were not only great offensively but just as staunch defensively. Unfortunately we also sold out & marketed Heat Culture like it’s a product we sell. It’s not something you buy it’s what we impose on our opponents. You don’t sell our toughness, we show it.

I cant remember who Spida was bullying during one of the gm’s in our series w/ Cavs but i was watching thinking somebody wld step in & go at Mitchell. Nobody did & we looked like complete chumps. Bam, team captain, didn’t want that smoke w/ his good friend. As a leader allowed it to happen.

We need to get back to acquiring these sort of players or build it into these kids through the process. Mitchell may have that trait & the reason we love the kid. We need toughness on this team again - that’s Miami Heat ball.

[Kobewade11]

When you look at the type of players we had w/ each Championship or Finals/deep runs there’s one common denominator we had that exemplified Heat basketball/culture. Tough minded players.

Wade, Shaq, Mourning, Haslem, Riley coaching, Butler. These are some of the toughest sob’s you can get as competitive basketball players/coach. I didnt mention big-3 because that was simply a stacked squad that was supposed to dominate.

Butler was a goddamn warrior & as damn gritty as you can get He went to war, wanted smoke & didn’t give a f*ck who he fought. Just a tough competitor. He was a significant factor for our recent runs.

This is the problem we have currently once Butler bounced. Who is left to carry that fire? We have one of the softest players mentally given the team captain badge. The fish rots from the head down. Can you feel confident going to war w/ Bam as your captain, who after a loss is happy to hug, smile & schmooze w/ the very players that just beat him. Spo, as much as he talks about grit, being forged in fire etc ain’t Riles. Riley was tough as fawk, disciplined his players. He’d scold Bam for his post gm cuddles. Spo not so much. A great coach w/ the X’s & O’s but lacks the tough trait that spreads to his players. Haslem is no longer on the bench also.

You notice also all the players i mentioned were not only great offensively but just as staunch defensively. Unfortunately we also sold out & marketed Heat Culture like it’s a product we sell. It’s not something you buy it’s what we impose on our opponents. You don’t sell our toughness, we show it.

I cant remember who Spida was bullying during one of the gm’s in our series w/ Cavs but i was watching thinking somebody wld step in & go at Mitchell. Nobody did & we looked like complete chumps. Bam, team captain, didn’t want that smoke w/ his good friend. As a leader allowed it to happen.

We need to get back to acquiring these sort of players or build it into these kids through the process. Mitchell may have that trait & the reason we love the kid. We need toughness on this team again - that’s Miami Heat ball.

There are some fair points in here. I'll say this and leave the topic alone, because I know someone is going to come in here with a multi-post tirade and shut the thread down for the day - I don't think Bam is a chump, I think he has his way of leading which is unique to him but not in the same mold of a Zo, UD, or Wade. Some would even say our problem is talent, not leadership, I'd argue its a little of both. The greatest example being all of the blown leads late in games. Those are the moments you are looking for someone to ignite the team and it just wasnt there. We have a team of nice guys which is cool but to your point we do need some fire and Mitchell does have the qualities you desire.

Hopefully a long offseason for Spo to refresh mentally with all the personal stuff he had going on and a couple of trades does this group some good