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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread (pt 3) 

Post#161 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:15 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:Finances have been more of a factor in the moves so far than some fans thought it would be just a few months ago. I think JT injury is a big factor in that shift if that wasn't the original approach already.

Every single move is based on two things.

1. Reducing salary
2. Making sure team have a malleable roster for Summer of 2026

So, there are no long term players coming in. There are going to be trades that are meant to make the roster and finances more flexible. The KP Trade is perfect.

If we could move Simons into a TPE and not get anything back, or give anything up, that would be the best deal ever. Like, get Simons to Nets for a 2026 second ohs. Pick. Get the TPE. Amazing!


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And to have done it without losing assets is a master stroke from Brad and co. People were worried we'd have to give up 1sts to unload Jrue and KP. Panicked even. Instead, they'd focus on seeming weakness of our draft prospects without one, seeing how they've done in individual workouts or interviews, and two, without them having even played a single second in a Celtics uniform. Mainly because the binkies they've been scouting from their couch weren't picked. This fanbase can be something else sometimes.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread (pt 3) 

Post#162 » by jonige94 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:08 am

Another Brad Stevens masterclass of **** at drafting.
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Post#163 » by Red2 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 10:41 am

I can get behind the Hugo pick but I’m baffled by trading down from 32 when there were good players available. Maybe we wanted Flemming and when he was gone Brad said F it.I know getting extra second round picks is great but overall zi’m really disappointed in our draft
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Post#164 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:28 am

So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?
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Post#165 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:06 pm

The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?

Starts ? All we have in this threads is people critizing Stevens' drafting. Also I love how now we have to move to the realm of hypotheticals to find a way to knock Stevens. Couldn't base your take in reality ?

By the way I'm still waiting for you to explain that legendary take from wednesday:
The Corey's wrote:The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks.
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Post#166 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:07 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?

Starts ? All we have in this threads is people critizing Stevens' drafting. Also I love how now we have to move to the realm of hypotheticals to find a way to knock Stevens. Couldn't base your take in reality ?

By the way I'm still waiting for you to explain that legendary take from wednesday:
The Corey's wrote:The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks.

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Post#167 » by Fencer reregistered » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:20 pm

Factoid juxtapositions I find insignificant but fun:

Hugo is Spanish. Shulga, despite being Ukrainian, played in Spain.

Queta is a Euro. Shulga is a Euro. They were teammates at Utah State.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6455511/2025/06/27/celtics-nba-draft-round-2-jaylen-brown-derrick-white/
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Post#168 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:35 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?

Starts ? All we have in this threads is people critizing Stevens' drafting. Also I love how now we have to move to the realm of hypotheticals to find a way to knock Stevens. Couldn't base your take in reality ?

By the way I'm still waiting for you to explain that legendary take from wednesday:
The Corey's wrote:The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks.


That's not rocket science. The nets had no reason to move those picks until draft night. They're not giving them away to take on a salary dump.

But you can't fix stupid and a team that picks 5 times in the first round, including 4 guards is not working with a full deck.

I couldn't respond to it because I got banned and the thread was closed.
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Post#169 » by ParticleMan » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:38 pm

bisme37 wrote:Amari from the basketball hotbed of Nottingham England haha


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Post#170 » by ParticleMan » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:47 pm

The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?


only if he gets equivalent credit for players who out-perform their draft slots.

it's the one-way criticism that's :roll:
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Post#171 » by The Corey's » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:50 pm

ParticleMan wrote:
The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?


only if he gets equivalent credit for players who out-perform their draft slots.

it's the one-way criticism that's :roll:


Meh. Stevenson has killed it in trades but does leave a lot to be desired with his drafting.

Who are you referring to at this point? Who's out performed their draft position for the Celtics?
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Post#172 » by phincsfan » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:59 pm

Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?

Starts ? All we have in this threads is people critizing Stevens' drafting. Also I love how now we have to move to the realm of hypotheticals to find a way to knock Stevens. Couldn't base your take in reality ?

By the way I'm still waiting for you to explain that legendary take from wednesday:
The Corey's wrote:The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks.


I said the Nets would keep all their picks in the 1st round. I see Fernandez as a coach who loves to develop players. Fernandez also has solid international connections.
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Post#173 » by Fierce1 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:03 pm

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Smart2Nesmith43 wrote:
The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?

Starts ? All we have in this threads is people critizing Stevens' drafting. Also I love how now we have to move to the realm of hypotheticals to find a way to knock Stevens. Couldn't base your take in reality ?

By the way I'm still waiting for you to explain that legendary take from wednesday:
The Corey's wrote:The Celtics will trade for one of the Nets first round picks.

Count on it.

No way the nets keep 5 first round picks.


I said the Nets would keep all their picks in the 1st round. I see Fernandez as a coach who loves to develop players. Fernandez also has solid international connections.

A case of one was wrong and one was right. :lol:
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Post#174 » by ParticleMan » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:06 pm

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ParticleMan wrote:
The Corey's wrote:So if Hugo flames out and Fleming turns into a rotational player. Does Brad finally start to get some criticism on his drafting?


only if he gets equivalent credit for players who out-perform their draft slots.

it's the one-way criticism that's :roll:


Meh. Stevenson has killed it in trades but does leave a lot to be desired with his drafting.

Who are you referring to at this point? Who's out performed their draft position for the Celtics?


agreed he has done better with trades.

i think it's too early to tell about out-performing slots. the trouble with 2RPs and even late firsts is that their early contributions depend a lot on situation, and our situation has been arguably among the worst for guys like that to break in. this coming year will be interesting to see. but i think scheierman, JD, and walsh all have the potential to out-perform. the fact that we have 3 such guys given that they're all 2RPs except for a #30 seems like a pretty solid drafting performance. not elite but hardly terrible.
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Post#175 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:13 pm

Red2 wrote:I can get behind the Hugo pick but I’m baffled by trading down from 32 when there were good players available. Maybe we wanted Flemming and when he was gone Brad said F it.I know getting extra second round picks is great but overall zi’m really disappointed in our draft


He moved down to select players who can be signed to two-way contracts, which don't count against the cap. He was drafting for the Maine Celtics, not the Boston Celtics.
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Post#176 » by phincsfan » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:17 pm

The way Rico looked in his little time last season, he could have given the C's 7ppg and that would mean he outplayed his draft position. That's on Joe.

Stevens needs to have a talk with Joe like this. Just replace Hatte and Bradford with Neems, Rico and Drew :D

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Post#177 » by phincsfan » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:19 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:
Red2 wrote:I can get behind the Hugo pick but I’m baffled by trading down from 32 when there were good players available. Maybe we wanted Flemming and when he was gone Brad said F it.I know getting extra second round picks is great but overall zi’m really disappointed in our draft


He moved down to select players who can be signed to two-way contracts, which don't count against the cap. He was drafting for the Maine Celtics, not the Boston Celtics.


Agreed. I also think Gonzo didn't plan on signing a 2way, he wanted guaranteed money and maybe some other prospects that would have been available in the 2nd round felt the same way. He settled for guys who knew they were signing 2ways. Shulga and the Brit.
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Post#178 » by phincsfan » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:43 pm

I bet Broome expected a guaranteed deal. That's why they probably passed on him.
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Post#179 » by Hal14 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:43 pm

Red2 wrote:I can get behind the Hugo pick but I’m baffled by trading down from 32 when there were good players available. Maybe we wanted Flemming and when he was gone Brad said F it.I know getting extra second round picks is great but overall zi’m really disappointed in our draft

There were good players available where we picked at 46. We drafted 1 of them..and picked up 3 extra 2nd round picks in the process.
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Post#180 » by Curmudgeon » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:50 pm

If Rasheer Fleming had been available at #32 they should have taken him. But he wasn't.
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