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Post#121 » by sco » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:12 pm

Peelboy wrote:I have no faith in this FO not to completely F it up in clearly obvious ways, but based on the rumors, there's at least a glimmer of a path to something useful occurring today and in the next few days.

1. S&T centered on PW for Kuminga. Assume JK gets something like 4/$110. That's a bit higher than Hollinger's value ($24M), but he's 22 and already has shown some really good skills (and some weaknesses). Seems like it fits the Giddey trade mold. Key here is no draft assets going to GSW, maybe a future 2d at most. I think a deal centered on PW+Jevon works. Carter is expiring and fits into GSW TPE. Pat seems a useful 3&D in their system, and with no pressure except to fill a role and a more structured development system there's some upside for them.

2. Trade Vuc to Suns in a Beal trade. I think Vuc+Collins+Terry works. Bulls get back #29 and a future FRP, which is light, ideally 2 future FRPs to get off that giant last year salary and return some useful players for Suns to go with Booker/Green.

3. At 12 and 29, draft a wing and a big. My ideal would be one of Queen/Maluach/Sorber at 12 and someone like Riley/Fleming/Saraf at 29. Alternately, maybe KJ/Essengue/Demin/CMB at 12 and someone like Beringer at 29 (that all seems less likely).

Your team is now: Coby (25), Ayo (26), Giddey (23), Matas (21), Kuminga (22), Phillips (22), and 2 draft picks (<21). Some potentially useful/flippable vets in Huerter, Lonzo, Jalen Smith. That's a reasonable set of young talent, 2 on big (but hopefully not onerous) contracts, and Coby as the big question mark either dealable at deadline or resignable depending on what he does this year.

Do I think AK can do something like that? No. More likely they deal draft capital to get off of Vuc and/or acquire JK, overpay JK (~$30M+), and/or reject deals that acquire assets for cap space (Beal).

I don't see him doing that, although it would certainly be fun to be on the Bulls board if those things happened.
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Post#122 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:27 pm

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Post#123 » by burlydee » Wed Jun 25, 2025 5:22 pm

Peelboy wrote:I have no faith in this FO not to completely F it up in clearly obvious ways, but based on the rumors, there's at least a glimmer of a path to something useful occurring today and in the next few days.

1. S&T centered on PW for Kuminga. Assume JK gets something like 4/$110. That's a bit higher than Hollinger's value ($24M), but he's 22 and already has shown some really good skills (and some weaknesses). Seems like it fits the Giddey trade mold. Key here is no draft assets going to GSW, maybe a future 2d at most. I think a deal centered on PW+Jevon works. Carter is expiring and fits into GSW TPE. Pat seems a useful 3&D in their system, and with no pressure except to fill a role and a more structured development system there's some upside for them.

2. Trade Vuc to Suns in a Beal trade. I think Vuc+Collins+Terry works. Bulls get back #29 and a future FRP, which is light, ideally 2 future FRPs to get off that giant last year salary and return some useful players for Suns to go with Booker/Green.

3. At 12 and 29, draft a wing and a big. My ideal would be one of Queen/Maluach/Sorber at 12 and someone like Riley/Fleming/Saraf at 29. Alternately, maybe KJ/Essengue/Demin/CMB at 12 and someone like Beringer at 29 (that all seems less likely).

Your team is now: Coby (25), Ayo (26), Giddey (23), Matas (21), Kuminga (22), Phillips (22), and 2 draft picks (<21). Some potentially useful/flippable vets in Huerter, Lonzo, Jalen Smith. That's a reasonable set of young talent, 2 on big (but hopefully not onerous) contracts, and Coby as the big question mark either dealable at deadline or resignable depending on what he does this year.

Do I think AK can do something like that? No. More likely they deal draft capital to get off of Vuc and/or acquire JK, overpay JK (~$30M+), and/or reject deals that acquire assets for cap space (Beal).


I need more than the 29th pick to take on Beal. He makes $53 million a year and is a placeholder. I would want that #10 pick.

I think the Suns are going to trade Beal and draft compensation to Toronto for Quickley/Barrett.

The Bulls could maybe get in on that trade by agreeing to take Barrett who i doubt the Suns want. A trade that could make sense

Suns trade Beal, #10, #29, and a couple of seconds. Suns receive Vuc, Quickley, and #45 pick.

Toronto trades Quickley/Barrett. Toronto receives #10 and Beal and Carter.

Bulls trade vuc, Carter, #45. Bulls receive RJ and #29 and a future 3nd rd pick. .

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Giddey/Ball
Coby/Ayo/Terry
RJ / #29
Matas / PWill
Collins / #12 /Smith

They could still flip PWill for something. Its hard for me to see the Bulls taking on Beal alone with Coby on the team.
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Post#124 » by Peelboy » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:05 pm

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Peelboy wrote:I have no faith in this FO not to completely F it up in clearly obvious ways, but based on the rumors, there's at least a glimmer of a path to something useful occurring today and in the next few days.

1. S&T centered on PW for Kuminga. Assume JK gets something like 4/$110. That's a bit higher than Hollinger's value ($24M), but he's 22 and already has shown some really good skills (and some weaknesses). Seems like it fits the Giddey trade mold. Key here is no draft assets going to GSW, maybe a future 2d at most. I think a deal centered on PW+Jevon works. Carter is expiring and fits into GSW TPE. Pat seems a useful 3&D in their system, and with no pressure except to fill a role and a more structured development system there's some upside for them.

2. Trade Vuc to Suns in a Beal trade. I think Vuc+Collins+Terry works. Bulls get back #29 and a future FRP, which is light, ideally 2 future FRPs to get off that giant last year salary and return some useful players for Suns to go with Booker/Green.

3. At 12 and 29, draft a wing and a big. My ideal would be one of Queen/Maluach/Sorber at 12 and someone like Riley/Fleming/Saraf at 29. Alternately, maybe KJ/Essengue/Demin/CMB at 12 and someone like Beringer at 29 (that all seems less likely).

Your team is now: Coby (25), Ayo (26), Giddey (23), Matas (21), Kuminga (22), Phillips (22), and 2 draft picks (<21). Some potentially useful/flippable vets in Huerter, Lonzo, Jalen Smith. That's a reasonable set of young talent, 2 on big (but hopefully not onerous) contracts, and Coby as the big question mark either dealable at deadline or resignable depending on what he does this year.

Do I think AK can do something like that? No. More likely they deal draft capital to get off of Vuc and/or acquire JK, overpay JK (~$30M+), and/or reject deals that acquire assets for cap space (Beal).


I need more than the 29th pick to take on Beal. He makes $53 million a year and is a placeholder. I would want that #10 pick.

I think the Suns are going to trade Beal and draft compensation to Toronto for Quickley/Barrett.

The Bulls could maybe get in on that trade by agreeing to take Barrett who i doubt the Suns want. A trade that could make sense

Suns trade Beal, #10, #29, and a couple of seconds. Suns receive Vuc, Quickley, and #45 pick.

Toronto trades Quickley/Barrett. Toronto receives #10 and Beal and Carter.

Bulls trade vuc, Carter, #45. Bulls receive RJ and #29 and a future 3nd rd pick. .

Bulls

Giddey/Ball
Coby/Ayo/Terry
RJ / #29
Matas / PWill
Collins / #12 /Smith

They could still flip PWill for something. Its hard for me to see the Bulls taking on Beal alone with Coby on the team.


FWIW, my view is any Beal deal has literally zero to do with Coby. You’re taking on salary for draft capital (and/or players). If Beal is bought out, sits, etc that doesn’t matter. Only matters if you decide you want to play him to try and increase his value for a flip, but at that salary, even that seems less likely.

(Also, I agree Beal + 29 is low, I was thinking +29 and 1-2 additional future FRPs). Those future FRPs are really the value.)
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Post#125 » by Chi town » Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:23 pm

No way you take Barrett for 29.

You only take Beal if you can dump Pat and get 10. 29 is not nearly enough
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Post#126 » by ChettheJet » Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:26 pm

burlydee wrote:I need more than the 29th pick to take on Beal. He makes $53 million a year and is a placeholder. I would want that #10 pick.

I think the Suns are going to trade Beal and draft compensation to Toronto for Quickley/Barrett.

The Bulls could maybe get in on that trade by agreeing to take Barrett who i doubt the Suns want. A trade that could make sense

Suns trade Beal, #10, #29, and a couple of seconds. Suns receive Vuc, Quickley, and #45 pick.

Toronto trades Quickley/Barrett. Toronto receives #10 and Beal and Carter.

Bulls trade vuc, Carter, #45. Bulls receive RJ and #29 and a future 3nd rd pick. .

Bulls

Giddey/Ball
Coby/Ayo/Terry
RJ / #29
Matas / PWill
Collins / #12 /Smith

They could still flip PWill for something. Its hard for me to see the Bulls taking on Beal alone with Coby on the team.


That's the kind of deal that works for the Bulls to be facilitators in a big money player on the move. You never see anyone including the Bulls in a trade where they are given some consideration. They move Vuc and not for another center with nearly the same contract. The only way this could be better would be Terry going out as well.

Giddey/Ball/Jones
Coby/Ayo/#12
RJ / Huerter #29
Matas / PWill
Collins /Smith / FA

then next summer the resign choices are some not all of White, Ayo, Huerter, Collins
#12 and #29 with a year of experience
plus their own pick and not a pipe dream the PORT pick
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Post#127 » by Infinity2152 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:47 pm

Haven't been on this page in awhile, it's time for it to pick back up! Draft is over, free agency kicking off! We spend way more time talking about who we want to get rid of than who we want to get. Bulls have a $17.5 exception, they'd be able to bid on like 75% of the available free agents this summer.

This summer, we should be able to add one or two pretty good players with just the exception. Who would you want to add that would fit into the exception?

My Nominees: Tre Jones (UFA), Paul Reed (UFA), Bol Bol (UFA), THT (UFA, cheap, young sparkplug, I like the guy for a final spot), Gary Trent Jr (UFA)

I'll add that I count every expiring contract as gone this year or next, so not worrying about duplication of position. That includes, Coby, Vucevic, Collins, Ayo, Terry, Phillips, Carter, Ball, Huerter.
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Post#128 » by sco » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:21 pm

Infinity2152 wrote:Haven't been on this page in awhile, it's time for it to pick back up! Draft is over, free agency kicking off! We spend way more time talking about who we want to get rid of than who we want to get. Bulls have a $17.5 exception, they'd be able to bid on like 75% of the available free agents this summer.

This summer, we should be able to add one or two pretty good players with just the exception. Who would you want to add that would fit into the exception?

My Nominees: Tre Jones (UFA), Paul Reed (UFA), Bol Bol (UFA), THT (UFA, cheap, young sparkplug, I like the guy for a final spot), Gary Trent Jr (UFA)

I'll add that I count every expiring contract as gone this year or next, so not worrying about duplication of position. That includes, Coby, Vucevic, Collins, Ayo, Terry, Phillips, Carter, Ball, Huerter.

Great list!
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Post#129 » by Infinity2152 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:07 am

Another note: Nets drafted Nolan Traore, Denim, and Saraf, all lead ball handlers. This summer, D'Angelo Russell is a free agent and Cam thomas is a RFA and no team can really offer them money. If we do trade Coby and/or Ball for assets, we could probably sign Russell into that exception, given the tight market.

Not advocating for Russell, but in the event Lonzo gets traded and we don't re-sign Tre Jones, D-Lo Wouldn't be a bad backup if the contract is cheap enough, like $10-$15 mill AAV. Maybe we could even send Carter in a S&T, Nets get a cheaper vet for 1 year to backup all those young guys and let the rookies run.
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Post#130 » by nomorezorro » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:21 am

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Post#131 » by Chi town » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:11 am

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this team's management is a joke. i don't know who they think they're doing an effective pr job on by saying "well we may have gotten blown out by a garbage team in the 9/10 play in game, but we ARE bringing all the major guys from that team back, and we even get to fold in guys like patrick williams and jalen smith (who both played in that game)"


CLOWN SHOW.

It’s pretty clear. Team doesn’t matter. Just money.
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Post#132 » by MisterRoy » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:19 am

How much of this is “normal speak” that comes from a front office? Does it really mean anything? He can’t project their plans to the world.
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Post#133 » by boundbymusic » Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:41 am

So we got confirmation that NO called about the 12 which means we can safely assume that AK turned down the 23 and an unprotected 26 (more favorable of NO and MIL) in favor of Essengue…
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Post#134 » by sco » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:53 pm

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this team's management is a joke. i don't know who they think they're doing an effective pr job on by saying "well we may have gotten blown out by a garbage team in the 9/10 play in game, but we ARE bringing all the major guys from that team back, and we even get to fold in guys like patrick williams and jalen smith (who both played in that game)"


CLOWN SHOW.

It’s pretty clear. Team doesn’t matter. Just money.

Yeah. I'll say that it may also be true that he knows this because they've knocked on every door and there were no deals to be done. The guys they likely wanted to trade (Vuc and Pat) could very likely have had no takers (combination of lack of interest in the player and/or his deal).
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Post#135 » by sco » Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:06 pm

So if everyone comes back we're looking at:

Ball/Carter
Coby/Ayo
Giddey/Huerter/Terry
Matas/Pat/Noa/Phillips
Vuc/Collins/Smith

That's 14. We have our MLE that we could add 1 guy. I wouldn't hate bringing back Jones on a longer deal and give us insurance against losing Ayo or trading Ball. Even THT wouldn't be terrible. He's useful and is better than Terry.

From a practical perspective, assuming for the moment that we're stuck with Vuc, There are no rotation minutes to be found at C. All of the minutes 1-3 are likely to be used by Giddey, Coby, Ball, Huerter, Ayo, (and Pat, if there are any left over). Matas will likely mostly play 4, with Noa picking up 10-12 developmental minutes. So finding a FA is about roster depth to facilitate trading an expiring or two at the deadline.
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Post#136 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:00 pm

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I wonder if Minny would S&T NAW for Lonzo?

NAW is among the leagues underrated perimeter defenders, His POA defense is impressive, which the Bulls need to fix post Caruso.


I'm guessing Tre Jones is brought back, and I'd like that. Carter waived/bought out if they want to sign someone. Thoughts on Jake LaRavia? could be a sneaky good signing.
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Post#137 » by sco » Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:41 pm

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I wonder if Minny would S&T NAW for Lonzo?

NAW is among the leagues underrated perimeter defenders, His POA defense is impressive, which the Bulls need to fix post Caruso.


I'm guessing Tre Jones is brought back, and I'd like that. Carter waived/bought out if they want to sign someone. Thoughts on Jake LaRavia? could be a sneaky signing.

I would be happy with NAW or Tre or LaRavia added to the roster. We need some more POA defense.
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Post#138 » by MGB8 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:16 pm

sco wrote:So if everyone comes back we're looking at:

Ball/Carter
Coby/Ayo
Giddey/Huerter/Terry
Matas/Pat/Noa/Phillips
Vuc/Collins/Smith

That's 14. We have our MLE that we could add 1 guy. I wouldn't hate bringing back Jones on a longer deal and give us insurance against losing Ayo or trading Ball. Even THT wouldn't be terrible. He's useful and is better than Terry.

From a practical perspective, assuming for the moment that we're stuck with Vuc, There are no rotation minutes to be found at C. All of the minutes 1-3 are likely to be used by Giddey, Coby, Ball, Huerter, Ayo, (and Pat, if there are any left over). Matas will likely mostly play 4, with Noa picking up 10-12 developmental minutes. So finding a FA is about roster depth to facilitate trading an expiring or two at the deadline.


My guess…. Bulls are not adding a 15th player - unless it is THT on the minimum again. Giddey will be resigned. Carter is not getting bought out. NAW is not happening (just agent created smoke). The roster is set. Continuity post LaVine trade. We finished well! Plus Ayo and Lonzo more healthy!

The market for the Bulls players is likely zero. Bulls don’t want to take back salary, so they would have to attach an asset to move even some of the expirings. Maybe others the could get a trade exception for - Huerter (maybe).

Scoring Guard: Coby, Huerter (Ayo)
Defensive Guard/Wing: Ayo, Terry (Ball)
Point Wing/Guard: Giddey, Ball (Coby/Ayo)
Forward: Matas, Pat, Essengue, Phillips
Big: Vuc, Collins, Smith

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Post#139 » by Muzbar » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:32 pm

People were complaining about potentially drafting another guard in the draft but are fine to pick up another guard in FA?

So where does NAW fit in with Giddey, Coby, Ayo, Ball & Huerter? I have nothing against NAW, I just don't understand how people can be against adding a guard through the draft but then be fine adding another in FA...

Also does that mean Tre Jones isn't coming back?
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Post#140 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Fri Jun 27, 2025 9:44 pm

I was A-Ok adding a guard in the draft, if it was the right guard *cough* KJ *cough*, i think my biggest issue is all the "crap" depth we have currently on the roster....Huerter, Ball, Vuc, Collins, Phillips, Terry are all spots that we could and should be using to find better talent

Realistically the only guys we should be keeping moving into next season should be Giddey (right price), Coby (if no good deal is found), Ayo (again if a deal isn't found), Smith, Matas. After those five we should be finding short-term fits and trying out young talent until we find complimentary players for the long haul.

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